The Twins are going to try to get as much as possible for Santana. Once he goes free agency the Twins wont get anything. Expect him to be traded at some point.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
MLB Hotstove 08
- Thread starter MacNut
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Cinderella teams have a way of turning into pumpkins at midnight. But Colorado is so much better than anyone expected them to be that I don't think they're going to become immediately irrelevant. Arizona, either. San Diego is always a force to be reckoned with and the Giants are going to be rebuilding. So nobody is going to run away with this division for several years to come, IMO.
The Dodgers could theoretically pull a Red Sox or a Yankees and spend way more than any other team in the division in an effort to buy a pennant. I hope they don't, if only because we see year after year the limitations on that strategy. The fact is, if a team's farm system sucks, then the team probably won't have the depth required to go all the way. The Dodgers' farm system, which was once the best in baseball, was decimated during the Fox years. It's only now showing some signs of life again.
Bottom line, I think the Dodgers are dealing for one if not two marquee impact players and a starting pitcher or two, and standing pat with the young talent as much as possible.
And? Which way is WFAN suggesting it will go?
CNNSI's Jon Heymann is suggesting they are closing in on a new deal....
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/10/18/torre.thursday/index.html
CNNSI's Jon Heymann is suggesting they are closing in on a new deal....
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/10/18/torre.thursday/index.html
Ive heard rumors of Santana to Boston for Buchholz/Lester and Crisp.
As much as I wouldnt like to give up Buchholz...Santana is a cy young pitcher and is proven.
Yeah, until A-rod, posada, and mo rivera all leave. That's also what the Chargers said after they got rid of Marty.
Ew.. no **** that.
Lester and Buchholz are both going to be quality starters for us for years to come. I think the ALCS proves that you need pitching depth more than just one Cy young pitcher.
Beckett, Matsuzaka, Lester, and Buchholz, and Wakefield would be a much better rotation than Beckett, Matsuzaka, Santana, Wakefield, and Tavarez.
I do see Crisp being traded in the off season, maybe for some minor leaguers or something. Jacoby Ellsbury will be the starting center fielder next year.
I think Joe done the right thing. He is a proven leader of the team. The Yankees should show a little respect and at least give him more than one year. Its not healthy to always be worried about losing your job.
Tavarez?? It wouldnt be him anyway. He'll most likely be dealt too, back to the NL. IF the sox have the chance to get santana..they have to do it!
The sox wouldnt have 1 cy young pitcher,,they'd have beckett and santana.
Lester and Buchholz dont make the rotation any better. You never know what you are gonna get out of them.
If arod leaves..its most likely gonna be for boston. Boston wanted him the 1st time..they're gonna go after him again.
Lowell w/ them prob sign w/ the yankees.
I wonder what Joe Torre turning down the offer does for Posada and Mariano.
Tis better to see Torre leave on his own terms than to be let go, but still: 5 million plus bonuses? That's like a million dollars per week in the playoffs!
I don't know about that- if A Rod hated the drama that is New York, he will hate Boston that much more.
Tis better to see Torre leave on his own terms than to be let go, but still: 5 million plus bonuses? That's like a million dollars per week in the playoffs!
I don't know about that- if A Rod hated the drama that is New York, he will hate Boston that much more.
Torre was forced out, they knew he would turn down the low offer so they look like the good guys that he turned it down.
The Red Sox wont give A-Rod that big an offer. 10 years 300 million plus
I wouldnt be too sure about that. The sox and arod will work some sort of deal out if this becomes the case.
Buchholz had what, 3 starts in Boston? He's got a huge amount of talent, and in 3-5 years could very well be a Cy Young pitcher.
Lester is also a great young prospect. He didn't do great this year, but hell, he only played half the year after coming back from CANCER. He's a quality starter.
Trading away 2 young promising prospects for one all-star doesn't seem like the best idea. It's like pulling a Yankee. Look at some of the bigger name guys we've brought in.. Renteria, Drew, Crisp, Lugo... those worked out well.
Hell, we traded away a pitching prospect (Kason Gabbard) to get Eric Gagne. That should speak for itself.
Now look at what we've gotten out of the farm system:
Papelbon, Youkilis, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Delcarmen, Lester, Buchholz.
There's no guarantee Santana would even do well in Boston. I mean, look at Gagne. Buchholz kept his cool in the 9th inning at Fenway when he was throwing a no hitter. These guys have already proven themselves.
A-Rod is not going to come to Boston. If he leaves NY, it will probably be for LA or Chicago. He doesn't want the pressure of playing in Boston, and the fans don't want him.
I think, and really hope that the Sox will re-sign Lowell. He's finally settled in to Boston and just had a career year. He's pretty much the MVP of this team.
Buchholz had what, 3 starts in Boston? He's got a huge amount of talent, and in 3-5 years could very well be a Cy Young pitcher.
Lester is also a great young prospect. He didn't do great this year, but hell, he only played half the year after coming back from CANCER. He's a quality starter.
Trading away 2 young promising prospects for one all-star doesn't seem like the best idea. It's like pulling a Yankee. Look at some of the bigger name guys we've brought in.. Renteria, Drew, Crisp, Lugo... those worked out well.
Hell, we traded away a pitching prospect (Kason Gabbard) to get Eric Gagne. That should speak for itself.
Now look at what we've gotten out of the farm system:
Papelbon, Youkilis, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Delcarmen, Lester, Buchholz.
There's no guarantee Santana would even do well in Boston. I mean, look at Gagne. Buchholz kept his cool in the 9th inning at Fenway when he was throwing a no hitter. These guys have already proven themselves.
A-Rod is not going to come to Boston. If he leaves NY, it will probably be for LA or Chicago. He doesn't want the pressure of playing in Boston, and the fans don't want him.
I think, and really hope that the Sox will re-sign Lowell. He's finally settled in to Boston and just had a career year. He's pretty much the MVP of this team.
Are you trying to compare Santana to Gagne? Gagne has been going down hill for some time while Santana is in his Prime. Santana is staying in the AL..so it wouldnt be that huge of a difference compared to the others youve listed.
and for the record..Gabbard isnt and wasnt a prospect.
You state that buchholz COULD be a cy young pitcher..well..Santana IS.
The fans dont want arod right now..but they are just sheep like all the other team fans out there. Once he comes here..he'll be loved. As much as I havent liked him...I do know he's one of the best players in the game right now and would help boston out big time. He'd have a field day in fenway and would become a fan favorite in no time.
Gagne is no longer in his prime, but he was having a great year before he came to Boston.
Bottom line is baseball is a team sport. It's not about one or two superstars, its about each and every one of the 25 guys. Trading away a bunch of prospects for one guy is not worth it.
Also, I don't like A-Rod. I think he's an *******. And what happens when he comes to Boston and then tanks in the playoffs? No thanks. I'll take Lowell, who's the best defensive 3rd baseman in the league, coming off a career offensive year, has a better team attitude, and has also proven himself in Boston over a-rod.
The Yankees don't have a choice in the A-Rod thing. He's still under contract. He'll either opt out or he won't.
If he does, it wouldn't surprise me to see them go after Lowell, but I really hope the Red Sox manage to keep him.
Lowell is not stupid, he will test the market. I expect A-Rod to opt out and as of now the Yankees said they will not get involved. Do I believe them, who knows. But I do see the Yankees weighing there options and maybe offering Lowell a nice deal.