I don't really know anything about Yankees prospects, but do they have any infielding prospects that could take over 3rd base?
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I don't really know anything about Yankees prospects, but do they have any infielding prospects that could take over 3rd base?
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You find me some other huge baseball story today and we will discuss it.
How about that move the O's made?
They got Rick Kranitz, the former pitching coach for the Marlins to fill the void when Leo Mazzone was fired.
This clearly puts them over the top and positions them to make a run at the AL East title in '08.
They got Rick Kranitz, the former pitching coach for the Marlins to fill the void when Leo Mazzone was fired.
This clearly puts them over the top and positions them to make a run at the AL East title in '08.
I didn't realize Leo Mazzone was fired. Wow. He would be a nice pickup for a struggling coaching staff. He was great with the Braves for many years.
With a healthy Chris Ray / Adam Loewen and hopefully signing of a another good starter, the O's might have a good run in them next yr.
That's funny--I did. I could have sworn you posted a very good analysis of what the Dodgers need to do. Maybe I imagined it?
Oh, nope, here it is: Joe Torre Press Conference
Would he return to Yankee Stadium for a ceremonial role, such as when Yankee Stadium closes in 2008 and its successor is opened in 2009?
"I'm really not prepared to comment on that," he said.
Joe Torre said:
Torre said the Thursday meeting went 20 minutes and that there was no negotiation on the proposed contract terms. He would not disclose what terms he offered to manage the team during the meeting, other than that the team did not budge from its offer.
Asked if he would return if the team reconsidered, Torre said he wasn't expecting that to happen. He said committment, not money, was the biggest factor.
Torre indicated he might not be done managing, either.
Would he return to Yankee Stadium for a ceremonial role, such as when Yankee Stadium closes in 2008 and its successor is opened in 2009?
"I'm really not prepared to comment on that," he said.
Im a huge fan of the minor leagues.
The only guy I can think of is Mitch Hilligoss. Mitch plays alittle SS and
3rd..but dont expect him up till atleast 2009..unless he dominates next yr.
besides him..there isnt much else IF prospect wise.
other guys to watch for in the future are:
C - Jesus Montero
OF - Austin Jackson
OF - Jose Tabata
I hear people commenting on posada and rivera perhaps not returning with Torre gone, but I don't hear anyone saying that maybe ARod is more likely to return with Torre gone.
After the way he dropped him in the lineup in last year's post season, there can't be a whole lot of love lost there.
After the way he dropped him in the lineup in last year's post season, there can't be a whole lot of love lost there.
That's funny--I did. I could have sworn you posted a very good analysis of what the Dodgers need to do. Maybe I imagined it?
The operative word is "see." Boston and New York fans have a difficult time envisioning any serious discussions about baseball beyond the confines of their little enclave. You know, the rest of us just don't have a "passion" for the game, like they do.
I'm really amused by the Joe Torre situation. He was offered only twice as much as any other manager in the game and turned it down. As if some other team is going to pay him $7 million a season. I think Joe's spent too much time in Steinbrenner Land.
Well, I'm a Yankee fan, have been forever (well, since 1973, anyway). And I saw it. Some of the fans there forget it's a big world!
I have to agree with you on Joe Torre. I think he was just right for the Yankees for a while, but in hindsight he perhaps should have left on his own accord a couple of years ago. In the beginning of this thread I thought he should leave, then later wavered. You're spot on about no one else paying him $7 million a year. I could perhaps see a team offering him $4 million, just to make him the highest paid given his record (which got worse and worse as more and more free agents were brought in.....).
I have to agree with you on Joe Torre. I think he was just right for the Yankees for a while, but in hindsight he perhaps should have left on his own accord a couple of years ago. In the beginning of this thread I thought he should leave, then later wavered. You're spot on about no one else paying him $7 million a year. I could perhaps see a team offering him $4 million, just to make him the highest paid given his record (which got worse and worse as more and more free agents were brought in.....).
Who are the Yankees going to get for a manager that can deal with the press the owner and the players all at the same time. I doubt they will ever find a manager as good as Torre ever again.
The Yankees wanted him gone and by offering him what they did was a slap in the face and they knew he would never accept it.
The fact is that the Yankee front office is run like a corporation more then a baseball team.
The Yankees wanted him gone and by offering him what they did was a slap in the face and they knew he would never accept it.
The fact is that the Yankee front office is run like a corporation more then a baseball team.
The Yankees boxed themselves into a corner. The next manager will have to win the World Series or face being fired. At least that is what they told Joe Torre. They will not take the chance of Mattingly running the team because if he gets off to a bad start they will not want to have to fire him. The front office is already taking a lot of heat by the fans for Torre.
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It's a point I've made many times before. The excuse I keep hearing for this attitude is that Yankee and Red Sox fans are superior to any other in baseball. Superior, my left foot. Try rooting for a team that hasn't won much of anything for a long time. That's the kind of real devotion to the game that many fans in New York and Boston will never understand.This Torre business can only make sense to people in New York. To the rest of the baseball world, it's just bizarre. Torre says he's prepared to retire, but to stay, he needs twice as much money as anybody else in the game. Any lesser offer is just an insult to his... what? Greed?
The issue was not about money, Torre said he was fine with 5 million but the incentives are what he didn't like. He wanted 2 years guaranteed. If he didn't win the world series the Yankees considered the season a failure and Torre would be out of a job. A Manager that has been to the playoffs 12 straight times is not enough for the Yankees if you don't win anything. That is why Torre turned down the deal. It had nothing to do with money. It was about respect. The Yankees can't give the most respected manager in the game money but they will waste money on Clemans. If the Yankees really wanted Torre to stay they would of made him an offer he would not turn down. This is a team that is known to throw money away.
I think money was a bigger deal than Torre wanted to let on: "The fact that somebody is reducing your salary is just telling me they're not satisfied with what you're doing," Torre said. From CNNSI.
I don't think it was the money by itself.
What was he supposed to do if he had incentives, blow out Joba's arm just to see if he gets into the world series?
Incentives for managers like that is simply idiotic.
I think what Torre was looking for was a little respect for the amazing job he did in getting the yankees to the post season despite having a team torn apart by injuries all year.
I would have locked the guy up at least through the opening of new Yankee stadium and groomed Mattingly for the job (maybe give him a year in the minors).
The funny thing is, this is exactly the yankees I came to know and be frustrated with back in the 80s.
Of course then there was no wild card, so they simply didn't make it to the playoffs.
What was he supposed to do if he had incentives, blow out Joba's arm just to see if he gets into the world series?
Incentives for managers like that is simply idiotic.
I think what Torre was looking for was a little respect for the amazing job he did in getting the yankees to the post season despite having a team torn apart by injuries all year.
I would have locked the guy up at least through the opening of new Yankee stadium and groomed Mattingly for the job (maybe give him a year in the minors).
The funny thing is, this is exactly the yankees I came to know and be frustrated with back in the 80s.
Of course then there was no wild card, so they simply didn't make it to the playoffs.
I didn't see LaRussa going anywhere. I think he was just annoyed about not knowing who the GM would be first.