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More Apple Notebook Details: Clickable Glass Trackpad, GPUs, Pricing

pavelbure said:
i wonder how many of these people actually need a glossy screen and are just going along with the crowd ?

matte screen looks like crap, looks like someone smeared Vaseline all over the screen.
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Huh?? Sounds like you've somehow never actually SEEN one. Any good TV is matte, and good monitor (most TVs and monitors are), and the previous Macbook Pro with a so-called "matte" screen looked fantastic.
 
ACubed said:
DAMN YOU APPLE! I hope these price points aren't true...1299 for a 2.0 ghz? You kidding me? Anyone wanna sell their 2.4 blackbook to me? hahha
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Haha, if these Macbook's come out with backlit keyboards, I may be in...
 
Anuba said:
Yeah I know, but the rumor says $999 for the old MB, and that's nowhere near competitive. The analysts were speculating about a killer machine in the $500 ballpark.
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Analysts that are talking out of their as*&##es who have no clue about the history of Apple's pricing structure. $800 or $899 is competitive, but you're right $999 won't do it.
 
Can't you calibrate the laptop screen to work with the glossy? Hello? Lower the saturation until you get it right. Like someone else said, I highly doubt the matte screen was perfect either.
 
Count me as one of the people who chose a glossy screen on her MBP. I much preferred the richer colors. While I won't agree that the matte looked like a vaseline smear, I think it looked crappier than I expected.

What's the point in getting all up in arms until the keynote? Nothing is absolute at this point.
 
i just dont understand how we got away from the 799 laptop when a lot of the news sites (big ones) were reporting it. Its hard for me to believe all of the other rumors about prices and specs.
 
Breegy said:
I just feel like everyone is overreacting like, as you say, their livelihood depended on it.
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For me it doesn't. But I currently spend 12-14 hours a day in front of my MBPs screen (working - except for the next 3 hours). And being comfortable with the display is indeed very important for me. I changed from a glossy display to a matte display because I really can't stand the glare 12 hours in a row.
 
lekun said:
Uh, or because glossy screens are in inventory because that is what 99% of people were buying.

I bought a matte MBP too, so don't shoot the messenger, but this thread is ridiculous.

First, there seems to be a lot of professionals who all of a sudden have a lot of time to spend reading inane rumor threads. Second, to all these professionals, if you didn't color correct your matte display, it was just as unreliable as a glossy display. And, an earlier poster was correct, even matte laptop displays aren't reliable, even if color corrected, for true pre-flight color work. Color correction is largely a farce anyway, unless you are working for print, as everyone views your digital work on crappy, miscalibrated monitors anyway. And the majority of print shops use CRT (Sony Artisan) for their color work.

I can say for certain that customers were choosing glossy displays over matte ones for the MBP at nearly 6 to 1 in our Apple store. This stat doesn't include all the people who bought MB who already preferred glossy, but didn't have a way to choose, and thus we couldn't track.

Apple has always been about making choices for the consumer to make the product simple. That invariably pisses people off. And it should. Windows doesn't out-sell Apple computers 33 to 1 because it is a better OS. Choice matters to a lot of people. Custom-to-order monitor finishes never seemed very Apple-like.

I'm sad to see matte go, also as a personal preference, but I'm not going to wail and gnash my teeth and pretend that my livelihood depended on matte.

I predict a fairly robust second-hand market for prior generation MBPs for about 3 months. And then I predict this whole issue ("wtf, no matte, Vista for me then!") will die down as people fall in love with this newfangled track pad and SLI-Nvidia doohickey, and start praising Apple for Snow Leopard. This no-matte decision will be a blip on the radar, like dropping Firewire from iPods. Its something for people to complain about, but not something professionals (whatever that means) are really jumping ship over.

You don't drop thousands of dollars in software, pre-existing hardware, and and unquantifiable amount of money in knowledge investment over a laptop screen finish. Quite hyperventilating. Who doesn't at least work on an external monitor at their desk anyway?

This decision does screw a couple of people I know who do photo work in the field. But of the many of field-based photographers I know, very few try to color-correct results on their field laptop, whether it be Mac or PC. If you are going to print from the field, you usually are going through an agency anyway and aren't retouching - e.g. journalists - or you get near great results out of the camera, and use the laptop to select keepers, not color correct. I think a more important question will be how durable these new MBPs are with glass trackpads, and what appears to be a big piece of effing glass across the entire top half.

(and if it seems disingenuous to call into question the professionals on this forum who have time to post, and then post myself - well all I can say is that the recession has hit hard, and I currently have a lot of free time).
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finally some sanity - and you've posted most of what I was about to - especially the ipod firewire comparison.

It's funny reading many of the posts about "color accuracy" and "pantone swatches" and "photography" as reasons for matte laptop displays. Do these people realise their laptop displays are dithered...
 
Aranince said:
Can't you calibrate the laptop screen to work with the glossy? Hello? Lower the saturation until you get it right. Like someone else said, I highly doubt the matte screen was perfect either.
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I read your profile and it said you are a student. I'm a student also. Grad school. I'm not in a professional field where I would know if a matte screen is necessary and as a student you don't know either. I think those in the actual field would know and many have said they need matte. Why take offense at that?
 
nowonder24 said:
For me it doesn't. But I currently spend 12-14 hours a day in front of my MBPs screen (working - except for the next 3 hours). And being comfortable with the display is indeed very important for me. I changed from a glossy display to a matte display because I really can't stand the glare 12 hours in a row.
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You spend 12-14 hours a day looking at a 15 inch screen? Somebody needs an external monitor.
 
lekun said:
Color correction is largely a farce anyway, unless you are working for print, as everyone views your digital work on crappy, miscalibrated monitors anyway.
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Well, yeah, and everyone listens to music that's been compressed to crappy 192kbps MP3 files, through cheap ear buds. But musicians will still be recording in glorious 96 kHz, 24-bit with bass frequencies so low, nobody will ever hear them. I agree that this color correction hysteria is over the top, but come on, one can at least try to comply with industry standards.
 
ACubed said:
DAMN YOU APPLE! I hope these price points aren't true...1299 for a 2.0 ghz? You kidding me? Anyone wanna sell their 2.4 blackbook to me? hahha
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Sure, but I only have the 2.2GHz Blackbook. However, I've upgraded it to 4GB ram and 250GB HDD. ;) :apple:
 
Anuba said:
Yeah I know, but the rumor says $999 for the old MB, and that's nowhere near competitive. The analysts were speculating about a killer machine in the $500 ballpark.
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Please show us any analysts that said anything about a 500 price point, againt useless misinformation again. :rolleyes:
 
No matte option on the screen? You've got to be fscking kidding me. I'll just buy the previous model at a steep discount if that's the case. :mad:

The picture of the screen looks like a Sony Vaio or HP laptop. Talk about ugly! I can only hope this whole thing is a disinformation campaign.
 
Lictor said:
You mean, like they didn't change the NDA on the iPhone SDK or like they don't allow to turn off the auto-correction on the new firmware?
Or like other companies have not adjusted their products or even strategy due to forum buzz?

It is quite common for companies to react on the basis of criticisms or forum posts. It is actually becoming increasingly common, because they know that blogs and forums can destroy expensive investments in advertisment or PR in a matter of weeks if not days.
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And how are you so sure Apple did it because of posts in forums like this, do you work at Apple, as I said if Apple listened to half the useless crap in this forum, they would be gone by now.
 
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