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All later portables (15" is clumsy) have glossy screens (including the Air).

... only that the Air has an optically coated glossy display that is superior to a standard (i.e. etched) matte screen!
 
For me, the air would need something more along the lines of the following specs to make it be worthwhile:

  • i5 or i7 processor
  • Minimum of 4GB RAM (DDR3)
  • 2-4 USB 3 ports (again, futurerproof your damn hardware like everyone else!)
  • changeable battery
  • upgradable ram
  • upgradable hard drive
  • should ship with something like an option of say 250GB SATA or 64GB SSD (giving you a choice)
  • Maybe an SD/memory card reader? I can see the Air being useful for family vacations and photographers on location.

+1
 
if the rumors are true and the new MBA 11" gets at least the Core 2 Duo, 320M, and 4GB of memory, it will be a great machine to play SC2 with.
 
... only that the Air has an optically coated glossy display that is superior to a standard (i.e. etched) matte screen!

That might be true, but reflections are still distracting when you are using it somewhere outside...
 
For me, the air would need something more along the lines of the following specs to make it be worthwhile:

  • i5 or i7 processor
  • Minimum of 4GB RAM (DDR3)
  • 2-4 USB 3 ports (again, futurerproof your damn hardware like everyone else!)
  • changeable battery
  • upgradable ram
  • upgradable hard drive
  • should ship with something like an option of say 250GB SATA or 64GB SSD (giving you a choice)
  • Maybe an SD/memory card reader? I can see the Air being useful for family vacations and photographers on location.

+1

User changeable battery makes it worse for bettery life. They made batteries bigger by making them non user repleaceable. So that is not an issue.

Upgradeable RAM is unlikely because they are probably using motherboard RAM (soldered) to make it lighter and thinner. Same goes for the SSD, but that may not be the case here.

USB 3.0? Not happening, seeing Apple doesn't give a damn about USB. And neither do I. FW may be slower but at least it doesn't clog up my CPU like USB does. And on an ultraportable that may become a HUGE issue. Card reader would be good though, don't see why not.
 
Well... because that's not the case in the least. IF (and that's IF) the price points are decent I'll be selling my 2010 13" MBP to get an 11.6" MBA. What do I get that I want?

More battery life. If you don't need or want more battery life, then there's no need to care about this machine. I've said over and over that I'd love to see an option on the MBP where the optical drive is replaced with more battery. I virtually never use the optical drive and I have a USB optical drive that works fine.

I loved the form factor on the 12" PowerBook. I want something similar again. When I'm at a desk, I almost always have an external monitor. When I'm not what I care about is battery life and a small form factor.

I could easily live with a single USB port these days. About the only thing I'd miss is Firewire just because I use target disk mode A LOT when doing work on other Macs. I won't lose that functionality, but Firewire 800 absolutely owns USB 2 for speed and reliability. (Heck, Firewire 400 is better on sustained transfers as is.)

Also, an SSD is going to bring more real world speed to computer than a processor bump or, frankly, just about anything. So, to get a MBP with the same kind of hard drive speeds, I'm going to have pay for an SSD. They're not cheap. 128GB on Newegg is averaging around $250.

As for the iPad doing "almost as much" as the Air, that's... well... that's just plain ridiculous. Can you virtualize on an iPad? Can you run Windows and/or Linux on an iPad? Can you run XCode on an iPad? Shall I go on?

If the 11.6" model meets a few of my requirements it will be my next development and primary use machine. I like small. I like tons of battery life. The speed gain from an SSD is gonna be more perceptible to what *I* do even if the processor is .3 GHz slower (I'm running a 2.4 right now).

As a dev, I'm gonna say that for this machine to be useful to someone like me it needs:

1. At least 1280x800 resolution.
2. The ability to have 4GB of RAM. (If I didn't do so much virtualization I 2GB would be fine though.)
3. At least 128GB worth of storage on the SSD.
4. Must cost no more than the 13" MBP with the above specs.

Plenty of people will want this machine for its fad value (which is about the ONLY selling point of the current Air) but I have to say, this machine would so fit the bill for me and how *I* like my computer.

I'm in the same boat as you. Just bought a 13inch Macbook pro because i needed it for school. I really wanted the portability of an Air. If tech specs are similar to the 13inch MBP, i will be selling my MBP stat.
I would really want an 11inch Air for carrying around to the library and coffee shops (i take online classes) especially if it has the same resolution or greater of the current MBP.
 
If I see Core 2 Duo one more time...

Just get your nerd porn elsewhere. Seriously, what instruction did Intel introduce in the Core iX series that Core 2 Duos can't execute and that is absolutely required for your Assembly class ?

I'd rather this thing have a C2D with nVidia IGP than a Core iX with a damn Intel graphics POS.

4 GB RAM, high res, nVidia/ATI graphics and a good price and this might replace my aging Macbook.
 
That might be true, but reflections are still distracting when you are using it somewhere outside...
They're very distracting inside as well. Very. Apple tried to cram glossy down everyone's throat once already, when they pulled matte as a choice from MacBook Pros awhile back.

Then finally after lots of customer push back, they did one of their sneaky "silent moves" when putting it back as a choice in the Apple store (without announcing it) only to pull another one of their greedy moves by charging extra for what was once standard. Not content to keep all customers happy, they are taking another run at "shiny toys sell" and their right. Shiny Toys Sell.

Many of the Apple faithful would rather look at themselves in the display, than use it for computing anyway, it's a world class mirror.

That said, you gotta give Apple credit, for the obscene profits they make and the way many of their customers fall all over themselves to suck it up and brag about it. You'd think _they_ were making the money, instead of giving it all to Apple... :eek:
 
Just get your nerd porn elsewhere. Seriously, what instruction did Intel introduced in the Core iX series that Core 2 Duos can't execute and that is absolutely required for your Assembly class ?

I'd rather this thing have a C2D with nVidia IGP than a Core iX with a damn Intel graphics POS.

4 GB RAM, high res, nVidia/ATI graphics and a good price and this might replace my aging Macbook.

This. No doubt.
 
If they can't fit an Intel GPU + discrete graphics in the larger 13" MBP, I don't think it's going to fit in the smaller 11.6 and 13" MBA; unless using this SSD card has freed up enough space to do so.
 
If they can't fit an Intel GPU + discrete graphics in the larger 13" MBP, I don't think it's going to fit in the smaller 11.6 and 13" MBA; unless using this SSD card has freed up enough space to do so.

The GPU in Sandy Bridge Intel CPU is not bad from anandtech reviews, more or less comparable with current nVidia offering(s) ...
 
If they can't fit an Intel GPU + discrete graphics in the larger 13" MBP, I don't think it's going to fit in the smaller 11.6 and 13" MBA; unless using this SSD card has freed up enough space to do so.


There is no DVD drive either in the MacBook Air.
 
The GPU in Sandy Bridge Intel CPU is not bad from anandtech reviews, more or less comparable with current nVidia offering(s) ...
Maybe so, but it isn't as good as the GeForce 320M.

Have a look at the FPS for CoD MW2 with the Intel GPU; it's on low at 1024x768 and then have a look at the FPS for CoD MW2 with the GeForce 320M (1280x800). Intel GPUs are no doubt getting better but they are still lacking.
 
The GPU in Sandy Bridge Intel CPU is not bad from anandtech reviews, more or less comparable with current nVidia offering(s) ...

So next year, when it comes out, Intel will have caught up with nVidia's offering from last year. Great... :rolleyes:

And people wonder why Intel graphics are loathed so much.
 
What if?

My idea is this:

They drop the plastic macbook (the oddball non-aluminum of the macs)
and replace it with the macbook air at $999.

This way, they go all-unibody and also force you to bump up to macbook pro for an internal disc drive. It sounds very apple-esque to me.
 
I really liked the curvy sexiness of the Air. If there is a new Air and it looks like the mockup, I'm not impressed.
 
My idea is this:

They drop the plastic macbook (the oddball non-aluminum of the macs)
and replace it with the macbook air at $999.

This way, they go all-unibody and also force you to bump up to macbook pro for an internal disc drive. It sounds very apple-esque to me.

I agree with this.
 
Maybe so, but it isn't as good as the GeForce 320M.

Have a look at the FPS for CoD MW2 with the Intel GPU; it's on low at 1024x768 and then have a look at the FPS for CoD MW2 with the GeForce 320M (1280x800). Intel GPUs are no doubt getting better but they are still lacking.

Just a note, main purpose of the MBA is not gaming, ( i am not saying you should not game, majority of the user may not game on MBA).
 
So next year, when it comes out, Intel will have caught up with nVidia's offering from last year. Great... :rolleyes:

And people wonder why Intel graphics are loathed so much.

but you have to see GPU in a CPU and separate IGP, when things get merged and smaller, of course there is going to be some trade off. :rolleyes:

it is OK for MBA, may not be good for MBP.

Like it or not eventually over the years, all the Integrated Graphics market going to be on CPU(+GPU) market. Intel doing it and AMD doing it.

Apple also used IGP even in a premium computers, so there are not going to be left out on this CPU+GPU strategy
 
Just a note, main purpose of the MBA is not gaming, ( i am not saying you should not game, majority of the user may not game on MBA).
Maybe so, but the GeForce 320M is the next step up from the 9400M; I think the Intel graphics are even a slight step back from the 9400M.
 
What I'd like
  • 4GB RAM standard
  • Intel ULV Core i5
  • nVidia 320M (being realistic)
  • 13.3" screen
  • $799

What I actually expect
  • 2GB 11.6"/4GB 13.3" (no way to upgrade RAM)
  • Some sort of "high-end" IGP
  • C2D (even though with IGP i-series would be possible)
  • $999 (11.6") / $1199 (13.3")

I know that the prices would run counter with White MacBook and low-end MBP, but I just don't see a $799 portable Mac happening in my lifetime.
 
So for all of you out there who have been waiting for a new Air for the past year+, is this what you wanted? Worth the wait?

Based on the mockup details, it works for me. Along with the discussion about GPU ATI/nVidia, so maybe still C2D, but we'll see. Would love it to have the glass cover screen as in the mockup - they did a great job with the pic imo.

It's the 20th in 8 hours here ... shame that doesn't count for anything ><.
 
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