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I'm not saying that I necessarily agree or disagree with what Gizmodo did, but let's be realistic. If we're all coming to a site specifically setup to present us with rumors and leaked information about Apple, we're most likely going to be pleased when events like that take place.
You have a point ... but were you excited when they posted personal information about the engineer who lost the iPhone? There are some lines you just don't cross.
 
Gruber says to trust him, it's the iPhone announcement. He's plugged into Apple, so it's a lock.

Agreed. We've all discussed what else would Apple talk about unless the lauched the iPad 2 (which I think it's too soon to annonce). He makes some good points:

but from a consumer perspective, it’s the same phone but just works on a different carrier. What would Apple show? What would there be to demo?

The big question I have is will the iPhone Verizon gets next month just be a stopgap until June when both carriers get the next gen iPhone or the same model that AT&T will get later this year. Another possibility is different release cycles for Verizon and AT&T versions of the iPhone. However, I think that's unlikely.

I disagree, I think it would be likely that they have 2 cycles. If for no other reason than to ease distribution issues. They have way too many issues trying to keep up with demand on the once a year release cycle now.

What is everyone's best guess on Tethering? Does Verizon allow you do it for free with Droids and Blackberry's?

Had to look this up today. $15/month.


They've already announced the new plans since this article and kept the unlimited plan. But it's always possible things will be different on Tuesday.

So what about the simultaneous data/voice problem with CDMA? Or will Verizon's iPhone 4 be the first device (and Verizon's CDMA network) the first network to implement SVDO?

An iPhone without that capability seems absurd and I don't think Steve would stand for it. Thoughts?

SVDO is definately a possibility. It's also possible Verizon has already rolled out support for VoRa.
 
So what about the simultaneous data/voice problem with CDMA? Or will Verizon's iPhone 4 be the first device (and Verizon's CDMA network) the first network to implement SVDO?

An iPhone without that capability seems absurd and I don't think Steve would stand for it. Thoughts?

You mean, like he wouldn't stand for a carrier that wasn't ready to deploy MMS? Or tethering? Oh, wait, AT&T took forever to implement both of those functions. How selectively we forget. Simultaneous voice/data is far from a critical function. If you need it desperately and Verizon doesn't announce it on Tuesday, then you can add another positive to AT&T's column (and expect that iPhone ad to rear back up again if Apple will allow it).

The most interesting thing left to learn is whether AT&T and Verizon will get new phones on the same schedule or iPhone 5 will be delayed on Verizon. Sadly, I doubt Verizon will reveal this particular detail on Tuesday.
 
You mean, like he wouldn't stand for a carrier that wasn't ready to deploy MMS? Or tethering? Oh, wait, AT&T took forever to implement both of those functions. How selectively we forget.

But you're missing the other big picture as well..

How many different 'versions' of the same model of iPhone did Apple have to produce during this entire time?

How selectively that is forgotten as well.

BL.
 
You mean, like he wouldn't stand for a carrier that wasn't ready to deploy MMS? Or tethering? Oh, wait, AT&T took forever to implement both of those functions. How selectively we forget. Simultaneous voice/data is far from a critical function. If you need it desperately and Verizon doesn't announce it on Tuesday, then you can add another positive to AT&T's column (and expect that iPhone ad to rear back up again if Apple will allow it).

The most interesting thing left to learn is whether AT&T and Verizon will get new phones on the same schedule, or will iPhone 5 be delayed on Verizon. Sadly, I doubt Verizon will reveal those details on Tuesday.

You make a good point, but I can't see Apple willing to release the iPhone on a network that will, in turn, take away functionality that is available on another network. Those technologies you mentioned weren't available at all (on the iPhone) at the time. SVDO is at this time.
 
Right so we should all be happy that Gizmodo completely disregarded any sort of common decency they could have had for the situation. We should praise them for their disgusting act that probably cost a man his job. And lastly, we should not even consider the fact that, had Gizmodo done the right thing and returned the phone to Apple, they may have received great press over it and a better long term benefit, not being banned from Apple related events. Delusional.

Common decency? Disgusting act? Save the melodrama for Dawson's Creek.

You have a scoop? You act on it. This is journalism. iPhone news is big news. It increased their traffic immensely and has kept them at the forefront of electronic/gadget news. Plus, everyone got to see a taste of what the iPhone was a month or 2 before launch. Sounds like a win for everybody.

The only 'disgusting act' was Apple ordering the raid on that journalist's home.

No sympathy for the guy who lost it. Shouldn't have gotten drunk and forgotten the phone at the bar. Maybe he should've left the 4 at home and brought out his 3GS instead. Now that I think about it, we never did hear about that employee. #kanyeshrug
 
Unlikely this is to announce the iPhone. Verizon is running a big ad campaign to promote 4G LTE, this is most likely to introduce the ThunderBolt.
The thunder bolt has already been introduced.

Anyways, everybody go to Verizon so my AT&T experience gets better and better!!!
 
Had to look this up today. $15/month.

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When I was just on Verizon's site it had a price of $20/month for tethering on Droids.

When I was with Verizon with a Windows Mobile phone it was $15/month for tethering but I was required to have the corporate data plan because I was using Exchange email. They have changed that and you can now use Exchange on the $30/month plan.
 
The thunder bolt has already been introduced.

Anyways, everybody go to Verizon so my AT&T experience gets better and better!!!

Unless you live in one of the majorly overly-saturated cities, you won't see any improvement. Not sure why people think this to be the case.
 
Common decency? Disgusting act? Save the melodrama for Dawson's Creek.

You have a scoop? You act on it. This is journalism. iPhone news is big news. It increased their traffic immensely and has kept them at the forefront of electronic/gadget news. Plus, everyone got to see a taste of what the iPhone was a month or 2 before launch. Sounds like a win for everybody.

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So you do it by sacrificing every moral fiber you have, for the sake of the almighty dollar. And you wonder what is wrong with this country nowadays.

True journalism is reporting on the facts that you find, not scoping out a drunk person in a bar who leaves a device there, and pulls it apart., then rats out the person who left it. That is NOT journalism.
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The only 'disgusting act' was Apple ordering the raid on that journalist's home.

If someone had your stolen property, you'd do the same thing, by having the police go in there and find it.

No sympathy for the guy who lost it. Shouldn't have gotten drunk and forgotten the phone at the bar. Maybe he should've left the 4 at home and brought out his 3GS instead. Now that I think about it, we never did hear about that employee. #kanyeshrug

Then you should have equally no sympathy for the treatment Gizmodo got for ripping someone else's property apart.

Put it another way. Would you have sympathy for someone who stole your car, only to have that person fall asleep in it, and have someone else chop it up while he's blissfully unaware that the property he stole is being taken apart by someone else?

BL.
 
Just two things

I only have two things to add, in case they haven't been said already (which is unlikely):

1. Jonathan Ive needs to design a new logo for Verizon. It's an eyesore.

2. If Jason Chen had done jail time, I'm sure Gizmodo would have been invited.
 
So what about the simultaneous data/voice problem with CDMA? Or will Verizon's iPhone 4 be the first device (and Verizon's CDMA network) the first network to implement SVDO?

An iPhone without that capability seems absurd and I don't think Steve would stand for it. Thoughts?

I'm curious what your thoughts were for the original iPhone.
 
Gizmodo = Engadget for Dummies

... True journalism is reporting on the facts that you find, not scoping out a drunk person in a bar who leaves a device there, and pulls it apart., then rats out the person who left it. That is NOT journalism. ...

Agree 100%. But I don't remember Gizmodo ever claiming that they're real journalists. Sometimes they mimic "tabloid journalists" when they go for web hits with sensational stories. But most of they time they're just "Engadget for Dummies." Like a junior high school newspaper with a technology focus.
 
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True journalism is reporting on the facts that you find, not scoping out a drunk person in a bar who leaves a device there, and pulls it apart., then rats out the person who left it. That is NOT journalism.
</PRSI>

BL.

Sorry, I don't recall hearing about Gizmodo scoping out bars looking for drunk people with iPhones.
 
I wish everyone would stop feeding into this crap!

Now Verizon is getting free press because of this.

The iPhone is not going to be on the Verizon network this year!

If it was, Verizon would not be the one doing the press release.

I can't believe that Verizon would stoop to the same low levels as those case manufactures who leak new case designs before a new Apple product comes out, just to drive people to their sites.

If this is not an iPhone announcement (which I doubt it is), it just goes to show you how much the iPhone is hurting their business.
 
Agree 100%. But I don't remember Gizmodo ever claiming that they're real journalists. Sometimes they mimic "tabloid journalists" when they go for web hits with sensational stories. But most of they time they're just "Engadget for Dummies." Like a junior high school newspaper with a technology focus.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...n_chin_after_he_posts_inside_info_on_nex.html

Gaby Darbyshire, chief operating officer of Gizmodo's parent company, Gawker Media, said the raid was a blatant violation of Chen's First Amendment rights as a journalist.

BL.
 
I wish everyone would stop feeding into this crap!

Now Verizon is getting free press because of this.

The iPhone is not going to be on the Verizon network this year!

If it was, Verizon would not be the one doing the press release.

I can't believe that Verizon would stoop to the same low levels as those case manufactures who leak new case designs before a new Apple product comes out, just to drive people to their sites.

If this is not an iPhone announcement (which I doubt it is), it just goes to show you how much the iPhone is hurting their business.

Hahahaha....I'll bet you'll be feeling pretty foolish on Tuesday. Most of your Verizon hating buddies have conceded that this is happening.

WAY too many reliable sources are backing this one. Time to give in and save some face now.
 
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whatever said:
I wish everyone would stop feeding into this crap!

Now Verizon is getting free press because of this.

The iPhone is not going to be on the Verizon network this year!

If it was, Verizon would not be the one doing the press release.

I can't believe that Verizon would stoop to the same low levels as those case manufactures who leak new case designs before a new Apple product comes out, just to drive people to their sites.

If this is not an iPhone announcement (which I doubt it is), it just goes to show you how much the iPhone is hurting their business.

Really? I can't understand why people like you are still in denial about this. I could somewhat understand when there were doubts in previous years, but at this point in the game? Just accept it. It's happening.
 
This must be what happens when you upset Steve and his secrecy. You get boycotted and ignored.

I was gunn a say the same thing
Course they won't be invited..


Do they think steve is a nice guy lol... He's not all at to ppl who cross him
 
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Really? I can't understand why people like you are still in denial about this. I could somewhat understand when there were doubts in previous years, but at this point in the game? Just accept it. It's happening.

Seeing that you live in the state I was born and raised in, I'm more than sure that you are familiar with the nickname of a certain state bordering on the southeast of Nebraska: Missouri. Nicknamed the "Show Me" State.

They earned that for a reason. They tend to not believe it until they see it.

Same applies here, with as many times as people have said that VZW is getting the iPhone, and it never happens. So, we'll believe it when we see it.

BL.
 
Of Course Ivan Seidenberg will do the announcement !

Steve Jobs WILL have an appearance though...

After the announcement he will crawl onto stage with the iPhone in his mouth like a dog, Ivan Seidenberg will pat him on the head and ... "Good Boy"

Then Steve will lift his leg and Urinate in the corner and Ivan Seidenberg will smack him with a newspaper and say..."Bad Jobs....NO ! "

************Just My Prediction************
 
Gizmodo making it all about them of course.

Nobody cares giz. Macrumors please stop posting stuff about them.

Yes and no. True, many people don't care about them - they took some of the magic out of the last iPhone keynote. I love rumors and guesses before those events - but the big thing is, to see the real device at the keynote, I don't want to see it before.

But: in this case it is the only creditable confirmation that at least a Apple product will be involved - so it has to be posted here.
 
Sorry, I don't recall hearing about Gizmodo scoping out bars looking for drunk people with iPhones.

True they didn't scope any bars. What they did is they bought knowingly stolen (as defined by California law) goods, destroyed it (by disassembling in its pieces) and than where stupid enough to publish every single detail on their webpage.

Like it or not - they broke the law. It is a whole other discusion if that law and the definition how you have to handle 'found' goods in California is a good law - but as long as it is law you shell not break it - take it up to the cours if you disagree.
 
So many crazy post in this thread. It's NOT an ipad announcement because they already have the ipad. While I have never put so much stock in these threads this is the only one that is looking promising. Except for the fact that a new iphone is right around the corner and the fact that it isn't an Apple event. I don't see them release an Verizon iphone 4 (unless it's release within a week) this close to the release of a new model and I don't see them confirming the new model.

This is what I also don't get. Somehow it does not make sense to release the iPhone4 (CDMA) now on Verizon. Even if I would be one of the people waiting for the Verizon iPhone (I'm not, I am one of the few that are happy with AT&T iPhone) - I would wait for the iPhone 5 - hey they waited for so long, what are a couple of weeks more?. But than, this might be a smart move by Verizon: might be easier to handle the new demand, many that can't wait get it right away, many (more) get it in June/July - would mean less sudden stress on the network and employees.
 
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