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dejo said:
I'd love to see an Apple notebook encased in monocoque carbon-fiber. On the rowing team in college, our Resolute eight (resoluteracing.com) was beautiful and virtually indestructible. Think the current iBook case, only on steroids. I don't know how financially viable this is, but it would be the ultimate in portable durability (and black, as well).
HA! According to Apple** YOU don't need it either.mcoyne said:
**(Intel doesn't have a chipset supporting FW800, so that may have factored into the decision to pull it)
What about the replacement for FW800 called SATA. It is now possible to use external drives with the same hot swapping capabilities of FW800. It is suppose to be twice as fast as FW800. You won't be using SATA for HD Video importing but for external hard drives it will probaby be more mainstream than FW800 because it will be less expensive to add to the motherboard.
Currently, no Macs have the port externally accessible but it can be with a expansion card. Perhaps future Macs will have this port. At least Macs are embracing the SATA standard for internal drives now.
Link:
http://www.barefeats.com/hard43.html
And one more thing, FW800 doesn't downgrade well to FW400. That is the main reason you don't see Apple use a FW800 port instead of the FW400 port.
Currently, no Macs have the port externally accessible but it can be with a expansion card. Perhaps future Macs will have this port. At least Macs are embracing the SATA standard for internal drives now.
Link:
http://www.barefeats.com/hard43.html
And one more thing, FW800 doesn't downgrade well to FW400. That is the main reason you don't see Apple use a FW800 port instead of the FW400 port.
****ing a! 802.11a at last!mymacluvsme said:MacNN is reporting that the new macs support 802.11a.....
802.11a radios transmit at 5 GHz and send data up to 54 Mbps using OFDM (Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing).
heh. Good point, I already tried to discuss the benefits of SATA to everyone on the boards here, but they love their FW800 too much. SATA is at least 2x faster then FW800. (1.5Gb/s or 3.0Gb/s)BornAgainMac said:
evomac said:If the battery life is the same but the performaces is 4x then ya can't complain too much about that.
That is what I mean when I say that is a good thing that the battery life keeps the same. Do you know how much battery can a brighter display consume? Do you know the power needed to drive an ATi Radeon x1600 chip??? It's enormous!!!!!
Man...those even need it's own power, direct from the PSU!!!!!!!!
For what I am concerned, those MacBook Pro are great laptops.
I will miss the 8x burner, but I can deal with that if it is truely 4 times faster in processing.
Mr Maui said:
The vents were moved from the sides to the back. They just changed the layout inside so they need to route air through the chassis differently.
A guy who frequents another forum I visit is at MWSF and says the MBP's are running very, very hot. Yes, they've been constantly on with heaps of people trying to do crazy-cool things with them but he reckons they are bloody hot.
They are pre-production models though, Apple could still work a few kinks out before they ship.
Randall said:
Intels current laptop Core Duo chip set supports arbitrary attachment via PCIe (or even PCI).
(assuming this is the chip set used in the MacBook Pros)
So the question is does a FW 800 (or FW 800/400) chip exist that can be attached to a PCIe (PCI) bus for a price point and physical sizing that Apple liked? Also did Apple want to spend the board space for a FW800 connector, etc.
I bet Apple decided to save the space and cost for a feature that isn't widely used and decided to leave it to ExpressCard.
That's waht I figured. Guess they're shipping the Space Heater free of charge. w00t! Now I can save on my heating bill.Chundles said:
Dunno if there is or not, but ExpressCard/34 probably couldn't handle that type of bandwidth very well. I believe it's only PCIe 1x.shawnce said:
Randall said:
Maybe for you. I do professional video post production on the side and it was my PB's FW800 connection and a DL DVD burned from my internal drive on a business trip 3,000 miles away from my workstation that was useful enough to generate enough income to supplant the initial cost of my 17" PB and facilitate the acquisition of a 15" MBP and then some, or more usefully my vacation to japan in cash, all from one job and more to come.
Ummm then they would be wrong. The tech specs are saying good ole 802.11b/g support with airport extreme etc.mymacluvsme said:MacNN is reporting that the new macs support 802.11a.....
Randall said:
SATA and FireWire are rather different beasts... you cannot directly compare them.
SATA is point-to-point bus with a very specific capability.
FireWire is a "networkable" bus that supports various types of point-to-point communication with isochronous and bandwidth guarantee capabilities.
shawnce said:
Maybe Apple is going to include it in the 17" MBP in order to finally differentiate and assert the 17" as a desktop replacement.
Seriously Apple may have really dropped the ball here. It might be a long time before they can fit a DL DVD drive and Blu-ray in that ultra-slim form factor. Damn.adamtki said:
I thought PCIe 1x was 250Mb/s. My bad.shawnce said:
If that's the case then I have no doubt that FireWire800 for Expresscard will exist soon if it doesn't already.
Randall said:Ummm then they would be wrong. The tech specs are saying good ole 802.11b/g support with airport extreme etc.
That is what Apple is supporting... but the hardware in the system is reported to have "a" support. This would be true if Apple is using a standard Intel part for wireless.
Note that "Airport" and "Airport Extreme" are just Apple marketing names. They have used various vendor wireless hardware while calling it the same thing.
Oh so is this Centrino then? cause they have the networking on the chip. Which is reportedly good with power consumption.shawnce said:
Randall said:Oh so is this Centrino then? cause they have the networking on the chip. Which is reportedly good with power consumption.
Centrino is a marketing name but I believe Apple is using the Mobile Intel 945PM chip set and Intel's PRO Wireless (at least most of it, with some additions of their own and unused features). To bad I wasn't at MWSF ... could have gotten on one of the systems and figured out what hardware it had inside.
