More Evidence of Apple's Massive Marketshare Growth in Higher Education

[Xibalba]

Everyone that I know shops for computers at Wal-mart - where they don't have to worry about idiotic Apples.

i think that a statement like that clearly reveals the actual value of your opinions...esp the "everyone i know" statement...

MS makes a funny but true point in one of their ads by degrading their own consumers by stating that they are not "cool enough" to own a mac...so sad even the marketing department bleeds jealousy.

 

[LagunaSol]

Yes - expect a huge bump in MS market share when Windows 7 ships.

Yep, a huge bump from 90% to 92%. The brainless masses will always be the brainless masses. And I say great. Let the PC manufacturers beat each other to a bloody pulp to eke out a few bucks profit on each flimsy plastic computer peddling Microsoft's mediocre unimaginative (soft)wares while Apple enjoys healthy profits as a design-oriented niche player, which BTW leaves us less vulnerable to hackers and baddies (don't forget to run your virus scan tonight...).

And even at 92%, you'll still be here Shaw, endlessly bizatching and moaning about Apple while the flames of jealousy burn within.

 

[xerenthar]

my class, last day.

 

[LagunaSol]

and the 360 has not only "made it" but greatly surpassed Sony in both console sales and attach-rate for games

Too bad you're forgetting about a bit player named...Nintendo. Hmmm?

I assume the Redmond Horde is writhing with joy in their cubicles, the chant of "We're Number Two! We're Number Two!" rising up even to the very sanctum of the Dark Tower in which Lord Ballmer squats and schemes - while above, his unblinking eye scans the horizon ("Game console dominance in 2025!") like a giant Red Ring of Death.

 

[Pika]

don't forget to run your virus scan tonight...

Thanks for reminding me, i almost forgot.

 

[LagunaSol]

you need to study some facts and not just propaganda.

Speaking of facts, here's an interesting factoid: the top 10 console game sales May 9th, 2009, worldwide (per VGChartz):

1: Wii Fit (Wii)
2: Wii Sports (Wii)
3: Mario Kart Wii (Wii)
4: Wii Play (yep, Wii)
5: Pokemon Platinum (DS)
6: X-Men Origins (Xbox 360)
7: Rhythm Heaven (DS)
8: X-Men Origins (PS3)
9: New Super Mario Brothers (DS)
10: Mario Kart DS (DS)

Hey, at least Microsoft is getting something for that buttload of money they've dumped into the Xbox crusade ("We're number 6! We're number 6!").

Oh, and in the top fifty console games of the 2000s, Xbox has six. Count 'em: six. Three of which are Halo games (The Freedom to Innovate! (TM)). Ouch. Without Bungie, a Mac gaming crew, Xbox would have been dead long ago.

Loss-leading console sales combined with mind-boggling hardware failure rates and a butt kicking from the little white waggling standard-def console that could, I say Xbox qualifies as epic fail.

 

[troller]

That graph says it all. The writing's on the wall.

I own websites with millions of unique hits daily and I also can see in my stats how many of these people use a mac OS....One thing I can tell you for sure...right now, worldwide it`s not even 10%

So what does this graph say ???

If apple wants to be a real competitor to microsofts windows, they should start to reduce the price of their products and stop showing any kinf of THEIR stats.

Update....I just looked at the stats for this month.
Unique Visitors about 25 Millions..... Mac OS 4.8%, Windows 84.3%

Any Questions ???

 

[ozyr]

Not this again!

BR Lawyer has been tolling the death bell for Microsoft since 2005. MS isn't dead. In fact, Apple is going to have serious problems when WIndows 7 comes out.

It is a very good OS and will appeal to a lot of mac users. The combination of inexpensive but powerful hardware and windows 7 on laptops, desktops, netbooks, and possibly phones is going to bring serious competition for Apple.

Hopefully the competition will drive Apple to create even greater products for us all.

I like BR Lawyer, and his belief that MS is doomed (I've been forcasting it for years now). I don't see them being around forever (or Apple for that matter).

As for Windows 7, yeah, it looks good. So. I've had far too many people tell me it is so much like the Macintosh interface (OS X). Typical MS.

Does Win 7 it appeal to Mac users? Not me. I have no major interest in Windows 7. I've got a Mac (multiple), why would I want what MS is dishing out.

In regards to competition. Great. Bring it on! Nothing like it to make Apple (and other companies) make better products!

end-of-line

 

[ozyr]

I own websites with millions of unique hits daily and I also can see in my stats how many of these people use a mac OS....One thing I can tell you for sure...right now, worldwide it`s not even 10%

Hmm.... My websites tell a different story. All depends on the site. Thus your stats are just as worthless as you say the chart is.

Deal with it.

This is a Mac site.

 

[maldoblaz]

Thank you very much for repeating what I've been saying for the last 3 years...9 out of 10 of my work colleagues and friends have recently migrated to Macs and are NOT turning back.

Of course, only the moronic PC-fanboy pundits that continue to infest this forum say the opposite, as if this were a branch of Paul Thurrot's blog pages.

MS IS DEAD. DELL IS DEAD. IT'S TIME TO PUT THE LAST NAILS IN THEIR COFFINS. GO APPLE!

Finally, users are leaving the dark side...

 

[troller]

Hmm.... My websites tell a different story. All depends on the site. Thus your stats are just as worthless as you say the chart is.

Deal with it.

This is a Mac site.

25 Milion People are not enough ? Our whole bunch of websites make about 68 Million Visitors a month.....not one of our servers shows at least 10% Mac OS Users. I think almost 70 Million People are very good reference to say anything about stats.

I am sure that the apple community will grow BUT what this graph says is just propaganda and has nothing in common with the real facts.

 

[ozyr]

25 Milion People are not enough ? Our whole bunch of websites make about 68 Million Visitors a month.....not one of our servers shows at least 10% Mac OS Users. I think almost 70 Million People are very good reference to say anything about stats.

I am sure that the apple community will grow BUT what this graph says is just propaganda and has nothing in common with the real facts.

No, 25 Million are not enough!

As for propaganda, it is all how you look at the stats. each to their own.

end-of-line (this means I ignore person for remainder of this post - not worth my time)

 

[ozyr]

my class, last day.

Love it! I see Macs all over my college, which is what this post is about!

 

[bmk]

25 Milion People are not enough ? Our whole bunch of websites make about 68 Million Visitors a month.....not one of our servers shows at least 10% Mac OS Users. I think almost 70 Million People are very good reference to say anything about stats.

In fact statistically speaking even if you have 700 milion hits it still wouldn't say anything valid because we have no way of knowing if your visitors are a representative sample of the total number of computer users. If your bunch of sites sold virus software for PCs, for example, it might garner 100s of millions of hits, but it would not be representative of PC/Mac market share. Unlike other areas of life, in statistical sampling, it is not size that counts but whether it's representative or not.

 

[Evangelion]

Of course, only the moronic PC-fanboy pundits that continue to infest this forum say the opposite, as if this were a branch of Paul Thurrot's blog pages.

Those fanboys are almost as bad as the moronic Apple-fanboys who infest this forum.

MS IS DEAD. DELL IS DEAD. IT'S TIME TO PUT THE LAST NAILS IN THEIR COFFINS. GO APPLE!

I rest my case.

It's interesting how a "dead" company like MS keep on raking in huge profits all the time... It's interesting how a company that has 90% market-share gets labeled as "dead"....

 

[troller]

In fact statistically speaking even if you have 700 milion hits it still wouldn't say anything valid because we have no way of knowing if your visitors are a representative sample of the total number of computer users. If your bunch of sites sold virus software for PCs, for example, it might garner 100s of millions of hits, but it would not be representative of PC/Mac market share. Unlike other areas of life, in statistical sampling, it is not size that counts but whether it's representative or not.

Well maybe you are right.....but I ask myself how representativ the stats are of some thousand students ???. My sites are communities and forums...nothing related to spyware or other "self-installers". The graph we see here on mr is not more representativ than almost a hundred million site visitors. Just my oppinion.

end-of-line (this means I ignore person for remainder of this post - not worth my time)

what the hell are you doing in a discussion forum ?

It's interesting how a company that has 90% market-share gets labeled as "dead"....

That's it !!! SIGNED !
I am not a MS Fan but what some of the people over here say, reminds me of blind followship. Apple says, the moon was an apple 100.000 years ago...and nobody asks a question !

 

[Evangelion]

What part of twice the price don't you understand?

Just because something is "twice the price" does not mean that it's poor value. Poor people can't afford cheap things. Meaning that cheap things are usually crappy that cost more in the long run.

 

[michaellinehan]

"One data point, and the fanbois have a collective orgasm!"

Don't you just love it when people use jargon and have NO clue what they are saying? Yo-Mr. Shaw --- a graph summarizing figures on a university's freshman class over a period of eleven years is not "one data point". Makes your rant a bit silly, to say the least.

"Everyone that I know shops for computers at Wal-mart - where they don't have to worry about idiotic Apples."

How old are you?

 

[voodoofish]

Wow! But it in the UK where in lectures students do not use a laptop... i hardly know anyone with an Apple

I know loads of people at my university (in the UK) with mac... it's true not many people use a laptop in lectures, but out of those who do close to 50% seem to be using Mac. Of course, the people who don't bring computers to lectures still have them (I have a laptop but don't bring it to lectures), so when you're in the library you see a lot more people with computers than you do in lectures, and I'd say close to half use Mac again - either way there're a lot more Mac users than the market share statistics for the whole of the UK would suggest I should expect to see!

I think the reason so many students have Apple computers is because they know they're going to need their computers a lot for work, so they're prepared to buy a good one, but for arts subjects at least (as opposed to the sciences) most of your work is going to be typing essays, which most people realise you don't need Windows for. Also, I've noticed people switch over time while being at university, which is probably party because people see how many people have Macs and that they can use them fine, which dispels any myths about incompatibility.

 

[iSamurai]

This is my uni
University of Queensland, Australia

Oh, there's an Apple store on campus too!
The pics below are in the Chemistry building and the Faculty of Science... The engineering building has got big widescreen HPs but... they're windoze. Same goes for the libraries, Dell computers.


edit: and BTW about every 1 in 3 people use a mac laptop...

 

[xStep]

One data point, and the fanbois have a collective orgasm!

I think you meant one study but that would be wrong too. US Davis released similar news recently.

 

[kironin]

I'm surprised no one brought up the latest Microsoft vs Apple perception report, showing that people's ideas of relative value has apparently totally flipped:

MS leapfrogs Apple in value perception

Seems the MS ads are working.

The masses are swayed so easily, either way.

that's the 18-35 age group, not everyone.

the younger masses are maybe a tad more gullible than us older folk ?
from the same article you quote...

Microsoft still needs to work on the 35- to 49-year-old group, where according to BrandIndex Apple managed to grab increase its value perception score to tie with Microsoft.

 

[kironin]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4277

And while we’re on the subject of upgrading away from XP, I’m once going to have to be brutally honest and say that if you didn’t like Vista, it’s hard to understand why you’d like Windows 7.

 

[BongoBanger]

Oh dear. Another tedious argument about Mac and PCs with the usual utterly moronic pronouncements from both sides.

Tragic.

Anyway, Macbook share in higher education in the US is on the rise. That said, quoting one university as an example of thousands of institutes of higher education is meaningless and almost as stupid as posting that photo from the University of Missouri Journalism School where Macs are the school's preferred laptops.

But, hey guys, knock yourself out with your stupid ill informed prejudices. The rest of us will use the tool that's best for a particular situation.

EDIT: I should have realised why it's a silly data source - it's from Daring Fireball. Still, could have been worse, it might have been Roughly Drafted.

 

[Winni]

This graph only says a tiny bit about one small market niche: College students in the United States (and, as you might know, that's only a small part of the world). Traditionally, Apple has been catering to that American niche market very well, especially in California. But it never helped them gain a significant market share.

In the business sector - where the real mass volumes are sold - Apple still is not a player. Apple neither has a product line for this massive market nor the necessary service infrastructure or support options. When you have 3,000 or more computers to take care of, you don't walk to an Apple Store or wait for an appointment with a "genius" if you need service. You want the four-hours-same-business-day option that Dell or HP give you. And you need a business partner that sells you and supports real server equipment, including backup devices and storage systems.

Apple also only has the required software compatibility with the business world when you put an operating system on their hardware that Apple still does not officially support: Microsoft Windows. (Or, worse, Linux.)

By the way, this graph - naturally - says nothing about the used operating system on those notebooks: How many operating systems are installed on them and which one is used more often or which is more important for the user from a professional/work-/study-related perspective.

Although most Mac users seem to believe that the iLife-suite is all that you will ever need, in the real world where you have to make a living somehow, iLife is just a collection of almost useless toy software. And Microsoft Office isn't the (only) answer, either - it's just one brick in the wall. But as much as Dell and HP have the hardware to succeed in the enterprise sector, Microsoft has all the necessary software products for it - and their server-side stuff is really good and extremely successful.

Apple, on the other side, almost exclusively targets the consumer market, and there only the upper middle and higher price segments.

I still don't see "the writing on the wall", as one poster here wrote.

Apple could significantly increase their market share and importance if they opened OS X to OEMs -- OEMs who have experience in those markets where Apple cannot compete. It's better to make a buck on software license sales then not make a buck at all. Ask Microsoft, that's how they became so big.