More Evidence of NFC Support for Both iPhone 6 Models

[Col4bin]

This feature will be about the only thing dragging me up to a 4.7inch phablet... rather than getting my 32GB TouchID upgrade from a discounted 5S.

The difference between 4" and 4.7" is minimal… if Apple would reduce all their ugly bezels.

 

[robjulo]

Like they did with thunderbolt and fire wire?

Apple is profoundly good at giving things like this traction.

 

[recoil80]

I'm skeptical since Apple is pushing the iBeacon technology.
I find iBeacon better than NFC on everyday usage, but of course having both wouldn't be bad

 

[Col4bin]

I said this many times and didn't get much response. I think Apple is going to introduce some kind of eWallet system that uses fingerprint for security and NFC for communication.

Agreed. Just hope whatever they've come up with is 100% SECURE.

 

[Sincci]

I'm skeptical since Apple is pushing the iBeacon technology.
I find iBeacon better than NFC on everyday usage, but of course having both wouldn't be bad

Can you give me an example where you can currently use iBeacons to buy stuff with your phone?

 

[TroyBoy30]

Does anyone really care about NFC?

yes. i use it all the time with my nexus 5

 

[SirLance99]

NFC just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

NTT DoCoMo to Enhance the NFC Experience in Japan with Germantown - http://letstalkpayments.com/ntt-docomo-enhance-nfc-experience-japan-gemalto/

Gemalto, which provides popular digital security services, recently announced that NTT DoCoMo has opted for its mobile NFC services. NTT DoCoMo is the No. 1 mobile operator in Japan, with more than 63 million subscribers. Gemalto will be providing NTT DoCoMo with two different kinds of services providing end-to-end solutions.

NTT DoCoMo will be getting Gemalto’s Allynis Trusted Service Management (TSM) service and its UpTeq NFC UICC embedding for both SIM and contactless applications, which together will help the Japanese operator develop contactless services such as mobile payments, loyalty programs, e-ticketing and access control. Gemalto’s offerings will help NTT DoCoMo attain a higher level of security for NFC deployments and effectively manage sensitive data.

Gemalto is also making waves in the area of mobile payments through its mobile NFC services. Earlier this year, China Telecom used Gemalto’s UpTeq Multi Tenant NFC SIM to commercially roll out contactless services. China Telecom also uses Gemalto’s LTE management software embedded in the SIM to provide NFC services to subscribers. Earlier this year, Jetco, an ATM network, opted for Gemalto’s LinqUs TSM software platform to deploy NFC payment services across Hong Kong and Macau.

 

[wigby]

Like they did with thunderbolt and fire wire?

Depends who you ask. Ask any musician or video editor or graphic designer and they know and probably own at least one firewire and thunderbolt device. It didn't catch on with consumers the way USB did but it did catch on with professionals.

NFC in the U.S. is similar. No one that I know even knows what NFC is here but in Canada and Europe and Asia, it's becoming very prevalent. Because Android is so fragmented, the only company left to open up the full potential of NFC in the U.S. is probably Apple.

 

[linuxcooldude]

Like they did with thunderbolt and fire wire?

Those technologies were always meant for professionals. With the higher price point for peripherals didn't make sense for occasional use by average consumers.

 

[SirLance99]

I'm skeptical since Apple is pushing the iBeacon technology.
I find iBeacon better than NFC on everyday usage, but of course having both wouldn't be bad

Yet iBeacon isn't anywhere yet. Except for an Apple store I have yet to see it. Although I see NFC all over and starting next year it's mandatory for all POS

 

[TWSS37]

This report is all wrong. There is no 5.5" iPhone.

Thank you!

 

[engg2000]

I said this many times and didn't get much response. I think Apple is going to introduce some kind of eWallet system that uses fingerprint for security and NFC for communication.

Then you and I are the only smart ones in this thread. If Apple has a (leaked) deal with Visa, chances are they already have a Mastercard and Amex deal in the works as well.

 

[linuxcooldude]

Yet iBeacon isn't anywhere yet. Except for an Apple store I have yet to see it. Although I see NFC all over and starting next year it's mandatory for all POS

Chip & Pin is mandatory, NFC is not. I'm sure many places will make it availible though.

 

[PorscheSpyder]

I hardly use Passbook, so I seriously doubt I'd use NFC. I'd rather it be wireless charging or something else.

 

[TWSS37]

...Or if you look at this from a different perspective, it's Apple perfecting what others have failed to do right the first time. snip.

I see you are a newbie on this forum. Welcome! You'll fit in perfectly.

 

[robjulo]

Wait a minute. I thought Apple abandoned the pro market? I've heard that over and over and over on here. So, which is it?

Those technologies were always meant for professionals. With the higher price point for peripherals didn't make sense for occasional use by average consumers.

 

[Casiotone]

Like they did with thunderbolt and fire wire?

For a long time, many video cameras had Firewire ports on them (just about every camera using the DV format had them). It's still found on cable boxes as a standard digital output.

It wasn't until HD cameras appeared that Firewire became deprecated as it didn't have a standard protocol to carry HD video like it had for the DV format. (And now HD video camera standards are a mess of formats and protocols that often require specific drivers.)

 

[Born Again]

...Or if you look at this from a different perspective, it's Apple perfecting what others have failed to do right the first time.

In 2007, there were already smartphones (Motorola Q, Samsung BlackJack, Palm, etc...) but it wasn't until Apple came to the market and perfected it. A large, bright screen that was fully touch enabled, played music and so forth.

Were there tablets? Sure, but the iPad once again, perfected the daily use of the failing device category and shortly afterwards others jumped on board and copied their formula, not to mention the iPad's design and product philosophy.

Sure other companies had larger screens and NFC first, but the device's battery life sucked. Apple has spent more time honing in on iOS and its close relationship with the iPhone's hardware to give customers better battery life, while still offering thinner, lighter devices. The same thing applies to multi-tasking functionality.

Apple isn't copying ideas, they are perfecting functions by taking their time and getting it right. Samsung, HTC, Motorola and Sony are copying Apple's DESIGNS, their PRODUCTS and even their marketing. You need to understand the difference, when you say one company is copying another. Before the iPhone, customers weren't barking for a 3.5-inch touch screen phone or a flat, touchscreen tablet, yet Apple gave it to them. That's innovation. When customers asks for multi-tasking, better batteries or larger screens, that's Apple (and any other company) fulfilling a customer's needs and desires, despite other companies having done it first.

Do you think Ford copied Toyota by offering a Hybrid? No, they listened to the market demand, because people have been asking for it.

Also, don't sit there and say that Samsung is the only one "innovating."

Name a popular smartphone that featured a front-facing camera, before the iPhone 4. Name a popular smartphone that had a truly innovative Touch ID fingerprint scanner before the 5S? Name a popular smartphone that featured an accelerometer before the iPhone. Name a smartphone that featured a universal charging port (right side up or upside down)? I can keep going. Apple perfects or implements features that are typically well received and then duplicated, unlike Samsung's blood pressure monitor, or S Health. Just wait till Health Kit hits the market, once again, Apple will push forward with better software.

Yes to all of that!

I think it's great that apple copies because everyone does as well to make products better !

I'm just tired of hearing that apple invents things and everyone else copies. They don't; they are the masters of making this work better than everyone else.

So Samsung didn't copy apple.

 

[justperry]

This confuses me. A company like Apple doesn't need to wait for technologies to gain traction to adopt it if it itself sees use cases that don't rely on others.

As for "why now", NFC isn't just a chip, but also needs pretty big (but flat) antenna as well. Since it wasn't in the iPhone 5, it was unlikely to ever be in the iPhone 5s since it most definitely would have required a case redesign.

It's not an antenna, more like a coil or inductor.

Hence, an NFC antenna isn't an antenna at all - it is really just a big inductor.

 

[Born Again]

While I do agree that Passbook has generally been a waste of time and effort, I do see NFC potentially picking up steam and riding Apple's coattails for greater exposure.

Also, I wouldn't necessarily say that Apple copied other smartphone manufactuer's by (potentially) enlarging the screen size of the iPhone 6. Rather, they are simply listening to market research and user demand for larger-screened devices. (By your analogy, you'd be similarly accusing Chevy of copying Ford every time a new pickup truck gets manufactured.)

I agree with everything you said. They were resistive to the small iPad but the market wanted it. Same as the iPhone 5.5

As far as NFC - I don't know if that's going to be big in the USA.

We shall see

 

[linuxcooldude]

Wait a minute. I thought Apple abandoned the pro market? I've heard that over and over and over on here. So, which is it?

You should probably talk to the professionals who actually use it instead of armchair experts on macrumors.

 

[motion22]

NFC is indeed coming to iPhone 6

I just noticed yesterday that Apple Retail employees are using new EasyPays for for checkout/scheduling (I worked there for 4 years, so I'm a nerd and notice these things.). The new models have NFC on them. I doubt Apple would go to the trouble of updating/replacing their fleet of checkout devices just to accept payment from competitors' devices. The new iPhone will have NFC. I bet an appendage on it. Anyone up for the challenge? Whoever loses the bet loses an arm. Pics get posted to Macrumors.

Evidence - Bell Mobility now has NFC Nano SIM. And I don't think any main stream Android devices are using Nano SIM.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Haven't they been wrong on literally every single leak so far?

 

[kemal]

Wait .... Dominate

Apple will be creating their own credit card processing system if not also their own finance system with a much lower percentage. Do they really need so many data centers for just iCloud??

 

[cdmoore74]

:YAWNS:

welcome to 2012 again? I don't think I've ever seen this in action.

Have to agree. I've had it on my Note 2 and Note 3 and I never use it. Can't complain that I have it; I just don't use it.
The only thing that really interest me is having a smart watch unlock my phone. No need to have a fingerprint scanner at that point because when I did wear a watch it was all day everyday.