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More Evidence of NFC Support for Both iPhone 6 Models
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5 million over the course of a phone's life is not popular. Apple sells 5 million in one day. Samsung Sells 5 million in a week or two. But even if, Apple still made the concept popular to point that now every phone has to have a FFC.
I wish I had some money to buy NXP shares. If this turns out to be true on Sep 9, then they will skyrocket the next day.
Paying in the supermarket with my fingerprint on my iPhone with the safe Visa token-based solution? That would be the "Next big thing" no matter how quick people who don't get it yet are to point out that people don't care about NFC. The combination of touch ID + NFC + Visa is what turns NFC from pointless to revolutionary.
In that solution, you don't give your fingerprint to anyone, you don't give your bank data to anyone, you don't give your credit card to anyone. You basically bring your own fingerprint reader to the store, you authorize the payment on your phone and the store does not get a free ride to charge your credit card, they don't even get your credit card number, but they only get that one authorized token, which allows them to get exactly the payment you authorized. No more worrying about what waiters are doing with your credit card in the back. You can authorize the payment with your fingerprint and they could even take your phone to the back room to touch it to an NFC reader. All they get out of it is the money you authorized. No way to steal your identity, because they never see your credit card number. You authorized a payment of 20 bucks? That's all they get, because they only get a pre-authorized non-reusable token out of your phone that allows them to get 20 bucks from Visa. I hope I am not the only one who sees the beauty of that solution.
So go ahead and pretend that nobody cares. In 5 years, people might laugh at others who still hand cashiers their plastic credit card with the rather valuable credit card data clearly visible on it.
Paying in the supermarket with my fingerprint on my iPhone with the safe Visa token-based solution? That would be the "Next big thing" no matter how quick people who don't get it yet are to point out that people don't care about NFC. The combination of touch ID + NFC + Visa is what turns NFC from pointless to revolutionary.
In that solution, you don't give your fingerprint to anyone, you don't give your bank data to anyone, you don't give your credit card to anyone. You basically bring your own fingerprint reader to the store, you authorize the payment on your phone and the store does not get a free ride to charge your credit card, they don't even get your credit card number, but they only get that one authorized token, which allows them to get exactly the payment you authorized. No more worrying about what waiters are doing with your credit card in the back. You can authorize the payment with your fingerprint and they could even take your phone to the back room to touch it to an NFC reader. All they get out of it is the money you authorized. No way to steal your identity, because they never see your credit card number. You authorized a payment of 20 bucks? That's all they get, because they only get a pre-authorized non-reusable token out of your phone that allows them to get 20 bucks from Visa. I hope I am not the only one who sees the beauty of that solution.
So go ahead and pretend that nobody cares. In 5 years, people might laugh at others who still hand cashiers their plastic credit card with the rather valuable credit card data clearly visible on it.
I just noticed yesterday that Apple Retail employees are using new EasyPays for for checkout/scheduling (I worked there for 4 years, so I'm a nerd and notice these things.). The new models have NFC on them. I doubt Apple would go to the trouble of updating/replacing their fleet of checkout devices just to accept payment from competitors' devices. The new iPhone will have NFC. I bet an appendage on it. Anyone up for the challenge? Whoever loses the bet loses an arm. Pics get posted to Macrumors.
How do you know the EasyPays were using NFC?
Gemalto adds FeliCa to NFC SIM
old news from 2012.
but the chip inside handles both NFC and Japan's FeliCa system.
FeliCa runs osaifu keitai system used by docomo (it is itself a JV between docomo and sony).
meaning of all this:
although no HCE (only SE) this becomes able to use the largest installed base of any mobile payments system currently deployed.
international, ranging from transit in japan to starbucks in new york.
apple building this into iWatch will mean a wave of yr wrist at a terminal will be able to pay globally.
old news from 2012.
but the chip inside handles both NFC and Japan's FeliCa system.
FeliCa runs osaifu keitai system used by docomo (it is itself a JV between docomo and sony).
meaning of all this:
although no HCE (only SE) this becomes able to use the largest installed base of any mobile payments system currently deployed.
international, ranging from transit in japan to starbucks in new york.
apple building this into iWatch will mean a wave of yr wrist at a terminal will be able to pay globally.
It was the most popular smartphone at the time. And Samsung outsells Apple by more than 2:1, so your comparison makes no sense from that perspective, either.
Is there a possibility that it's for a 24 Bit DAC instead of a 16 Bit DAC? Is that possible? There have been rumors that Apple is going to release 24 Bit content on iTunes and it would make sense for them to begin updating the guts of their mobile devices with 24 Bit DACs. I'm just wondering where it has to be only for a NFC chip. Just adding some other possibilities.
I've used Passbook several times already for concerts, festivals, airlines. I haven't seen any uses for NFC around my area, maybe I don't notice it? I think this shows how much influence Apple has and if/when Apple does adopt NFC, it'll be huge.
For some reason some people in these forums seem to think that companies would actually replace every payment terminal and every public transport payment system (like Suica, Oyster etc) in the world with iBeacons just because some Apple users "don't want another chip/something that's not invented by Apple" in their phones. Especially people in the US don't seem to understand how difficult and expensive it would be to replace or create separate systems just for Apple users. Usually these same people even wish that the system would be Apple only (so that people would need to by iPhones to use those services).
If it's going to be huge, then it's going to be the result of the rumored partnership with Visa. Without a partner who handles the payment processing, Apple will not be able to do much, but the combination of Apple and Visa can be pretty powerful.
Gotcha so it's not like it will become useless and for small purchases its nice. However we are even slower to adopt new credit card technology here in the US so one has to wonder if it will gain any traction.
Thanks for the reply!
4.7 is a phablet now? Hah! Then my Note 3 is what then?
I believe that will make it a tablet.
won't see it until i believe it.
Soon all our iPhones will have as much gadgets as we want,,, it may even come with a swiss army knife with included
how convenient would that be... you no longer have to cut up oranges.
Just whip out the old iphone and it will handle the job,
Soon all our iPhones will have as much gadgets as we want,,, it may even come with a swiss army knife with included
how convenient would that be... you no longer have to cut up oranges.
Just whip out the old iphone and it will handle the job,
Looks like you are a delusional iSheep. Nokia had the front facing camera and accelerometer before the iPhone. And no, you cannot compare smartphone sales from 2007 to now. Apple never sold 5 million iphones in one day back in 2007.
Also you were boasting how Apple perfected lots of stuff in iPhone and you are dead wrong. Apple followed other manufacturers on phones with camera, let alone front facing camera, which were/are mediocre at best.
In one of your post that you deleted, you mention about battery life and multi tasking functionality... iPhone never had great battery life. and NO, iphone DOES NOT do multi-tasking. It fools you to think that it does, but it doesn't.
Rats! I was hoping only the 5.5" was going to have it.
so the 5.5" is solid now? I thought it's still a rumor from Ming Chi Kuo.
Counting not your strong point?
8 top and bottom,
6 down each side,
9 in the middle.
8+8+6+6+9=37.
It's already being integrated all over the world.
October 2015 is the US deadline for merchants to use EMV chip cards or face liability for fraudulent cards.
Most EMV card readers also support NFC mobile payments.
Imagine their competitor's ads if iPhones could not do those.
That idea would still use a standard NFC chip. It would simply add a custom payment program.
OR is it that Apple has something else in store for the use of NFC? Android users keep going on about it, but truthfully in the large city I live in, I have seen maybe three stores that use it. Maybe it takes Apple to adopt it for it to become mainstream.
It would be nice if it'll work with my Sony RX100m2. NFC is a super convenient way of quickly transfer photos from the camera to my phone. Just tap and transfer, no fiddling with wifi settings or memory cards.
