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Yes, yes, yes and again, yes! The 5S (I don't know about the 5, I have not had one) is an absolute disgrace in terms of battery life, and good on Samsung for their wall-hugging ads. I am outraged that I spent over £500 on a computer capable of so much to help me through my day, but which I have to keep plugging in or rationing my use of. Do I allow myself to watch the cricket for 30 minutes, or can I use the maps to help me find a decent restaurant? Can I listen to live radio, or should I save the battery in case I am stranded later at Clapham Junction and want to read an eBook with the screen bright enough to be able see it properly?

The pathetic, smug, indulgent nonsense about "super thin" whilst many of us find we can't use this device like the much vaunted Jobs would have wanted makes me sick. It is not the first time I have said this, and usually some Apple-apologist cretins come back with comments like " why don't you buy a battery case" or "why not use your phone less". You couldn't make it up...

Quite honestly, the mind boggles. The 5S is otherwise impressive, to be sure. But its pathetically inadequate battery makes it a daily trial when I am doing anything other than the most basic casual use, and if that is all I wanted from a phone, I would not have bought the 5S. Now, to praise Apple, the battery life they have got out of the MBAs is remarkably impressive.
How old are you? did you ever have a pager? go back to a time when we didn't have these amazing little computers in our pocket and stop complaining so much. You know you could always pretend like we didn't have this technology and live your life just fine like older people have done(i honestly think it would be a better life not having this new technology, less living more staring at a screen/media consumption). But ya, the 5s battery life is fine if you look at it for what it is. Just be happy you have what you have...
 
How old are you? did you ever have a pager? go back to a time when we didn't have these amazing little computers in our pocket and stop complaining so much. You know you could always pretend like we didn't have this technology and live your life just fine like older people have done(i honestly think it would be a better life not having this new technology, less living more staring at a screen/media consumption). But ya, the 5s battery life is fine if you look at it for what it is. Just be happy you have what you have...

Why should anyone "just be happy with what they have"?
 
one word: 5.5"...

Seems like this will be one of a few key differential features that will compel people to fork out $$$ for the 5.5" version over the 4.7" model, more than the 4.7" crowd probably intended to consider.
 
Since Apple employees are practically forced to eat their own dogfood and use iPhones, presumably all day and in many cases quite heavily in all sorts of places, I wonder what their preferred solution is to battery life problems. Or do they not have many such problems.

They have cell tower on Apple campus. Very few people can claim to have such proximity to cell tower during regular work hours so their performance should be significantly better than the average Joe.

I am rarely getting a full day with what I think is average usage. On Wi-fi battery life is good but on 3G /LTE, battery life is poor and I am usually in a decent good signal zone. I would need the phone to last from 7AM to 10PM without having to charge it in the middle of the day and with normal usage needs in an average environnent where the signal is not always 100%.

I had a 3G, a 4 and now a 5 and the battery life was always about the same. They got new technology at every update that is supposed to be more energy efficient but the result is always about the same. So I don't think we will get anything significantly better with the 4.7" iPhone 6 with a 1810 mAh battery.

Lets face it guys, competition is there (Galaxy S5 = 5.1" 432 ppi 2800 mAh, HTC One M8= 5" 441 ppi 2600 mAh, Nokia Lumia 930 = 5" 441 ppi 2420 mAh) and they are all using latest technology energy efficient components. Now the 4.7" iPhone 6 is expected to have a 4.7" at expected ~ 416 ppi and a 1810 mAh battery? First, they are at least 2 years behind on screen size but lets hope this battery rumor is not true as I will never pay premium price for that iPhone 6. For reference, a friend of mine with above average usage has his One M8 lasts 2 days. Some will say why the hell would you need a battery lasting 2 days? Easy answer, because after 1 year, the battery will get 50% less recharge cycles so the battery will last longer within time.

I am a big Apple fan but I am starting to see things more clearly. My 18 months old iPhone 5 (3rd one) is switching off between 10-15% so the damn thing is not lasting at least 2 years with an high end price tag. Without at least a 2100 mAh battery, I will be forced to jump ship as battery life is way more important than thinness or fanboism.
 
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How on earth are you ending up needing to charge it during the day?

Signal strength can be a huge factor. In my case, my iPhone 5 can go from 100% to 0% overnight without me touching the phone. The reason being our cellular coverage is terrible and the phone struggles to receive notifications or check for new email. (of course, turning off cellular data fixes the issue)
 
I'm ok with this. My 5s seems to be the exception to the rule as it lasts all day on a single charge with no problem. Even with heavy use the battery percentage does not dip below 40% by the end of the day.

Your 5S isn't an exception. Your definition of "heavy use" is.
 
Why should anyone "just be happy with what they have"?

you are missing the point. people complain too much... Appreciate what you have more. if you aren't happy with a device you DONT NEED then change it. Easy as that. its not like life or death. seriously though is it really that bad that it affects your life?
 
Funny how people defend apple by saying that their phones last all day and they end up with 40% by the time they go to bed. Well, GOOD FOR YOU. I'm genuinely happy for you. My mother charges her iPhone once every 2 days too. But that's not how most of us use our phones. I have a 4s and it lasts aprox. 4-5 hours of Usage time. [...] So please, stop saying that since YOU don't have problems NOBODY has problems. It's simply depends on HOW you use your phone. And unfortunately it just CAN'T handle heavy usage. It just can't.

you're doing the same thing in reverse. it CAN handle way more than you're describing in my experience and many people's experience, and you just refuse to believe that because it's different from your experience.

I understand and believe that you have battery life problems. Can you understand and believe that I (and many others) don't?
 

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Yep, we're probably going to get something like 18 hour on-screen battery, with iOS improvements. Can't wait!!!

And then folks will gripe that it doesn't last all week on a single charge

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Can't wait! Surely Apple will confirm the event next week?

nope. Apple sends out announcements the week before. if the announcement is Sept 8/9th then we will see the invites on the 2nd. and spend the week trying to guess the hidden meaning in every word, image, color
 
I find the replies to this hilarious. With this battery size and assuming identical efficiency to the 5S the phone would have the longest battery life in the industry, beating out phones with 3000mah batteries. And this is extremely disappointing?

Wow.
 
How on earth are you ending up needing to charge it during the day? If you start the day at 100% you need to use it insanely much, or with some really power hungry or really poor optimised apps with very high brightness on the screen for it not lasting through the day?

I for one charge it overnight, and then I will mostly end up having 30-60% when I end up going to bed depending on my usage and whether I had to use it in bright light so the display had to run at 100% brightness for a long period of time. I have yet to be able to go from 100% to under 10% no matter how much I use the phone during the day.

It really depends.

On a typical work day, I don't use my iPhone enough to drain it, so it typically ends the day at 20-30%.

However, I recently went back for a short reservist stint, and maybe it was a combination of factors such as weaker 4g signal and more spare time (leading to more intensive usage of my iPhone), but I found my battery life dropping more quickly. It could easily drain to around 20% by noon, so I had to charge it twice a day.

Then, when I went back to work, my battery life kept dropping aggressively even when I was not using it. Not sure if it's features like background refresh working overtime or something. Just recalibrated my battery last night, will see if this helps any.
 
Wow, where's the chill?

Anyway, I still don't get what people do on their phones. My 4S gets heavy duty (Snapchat, WhatsApp, iMessage, Twitter, Siri, Safari, Maps, Foursquare, YouTube, TuneIn Radio, Camera and Photo editing, Mail, Reminders and Solitaire) and the battery lasts at east a day and a half!
 
Wow, where's the chill?

Anyway, I still don't get what people do on their phones. My 4S gets heavy duty (Snapchat, WhatsApp, iMessage, Twitter, Siri, Safari, Maps, Foursquare, YouTube, TuneIn Radio, Camera and Photo editing, Mail, Reminders and Solitaire) and the battery lasts at east a day and a half!

I know, right?
I can go at least a week on my almost three year old 4s. Not sure what the problem is.
 
Couple things here. I dl'd a speedometer app the other day and then had horrible battery life, finally I turned off location services for the app, and it was back to normal. iOS 8 will have an app delineated battery consumption meter which is fantastic.

Also, I hate the round edge design, I've been telling all my non-tech oriented but "veryyyy on trend" friends about it and they all like square edge. It seems there are two types of people in the world, those that want a Mercedes G-Wagon, and those who want some ugly rounded car. I think Steve was a g-wagon fan, and Jony a big fan of rounded things. All his side projects are super roundy. At some point Apple needs to think about a new designer with better taste and less age.
 
Thats horrible. Have you had the genius bar check it out? If I couldn't get through a whole day with my iPhone I'd be there complaining that they sold me defective equipment. Maybe you got one with a bad battery. It does happen.

The old phone did the same thing. The Genius Bar people in both London and Australia said it is just the iPhone 5 and everyone complains about it. They also said it usually makes people upgrade their phone yearly instead of every 2-3 years on average.

The problem is that I just don't really trust apple anymore to solve problems like this. Especially having two employees in two countries say that the solution is to 'upgrade' and give apple even more money.

I'd like to use iTunes Radio, for example, but my phone would be dead in about an hour. I don't think an upgrade to a 5s is really going to help much.
 
The one battery shown in closeup does include a manufacturing date of June, making it several months old, while the original leaked battery had a more recent manufacturing date of July.

"Leaked Battery", well now that's funny!

Hmmm, maybe MacRumors would like to hire me to proofread copy.
 
I don't even do anything to save battery life, i.e. disabling location services, background updates, bluetooth, etc. I have a medium-high usage of it and I always have around 50% by the end of the day. I've considered getting a battery backpack for it but I really don't have any issues with the battery life.

It sucks that everyone else does. Honestly I've found the 5s's battery life to be fine from the start.
 
I don't even do anything to save battery life, i.e. disabling location services, background updates, bluetooth, etc. I have a medium-high usage of it and I always have around 50% by the end of the day. I've considered getting a battery backpack for it but I really don't have any issues with the battery life.

It sucks that everyone else does. Honestly I've found the 5s's battery life to be fine from the start.

Me too, with my iPhone 5. I can get through two days of use including location services, GPS, my constant peppering of banal questions to Siri, and endless use of text, email, and web surfing.

We iPhone users are a very whiny bunch!
 
I know, right?
I can go at least a week on my almost three year old 4s. Not sure what the problem is.

One problem is that the battery experience can be vary a lot for different individuals. A lot of power usage can be attributed to LTE/3G switching and bad reception which will depending on the location and the cell tower situation, not to mention apps with background stuff.


That's the point. "We" want hardware & software optimizations AND a bigger battery.

Apple wants to make a sleek-looking device. A large battery is a hindrance to achieving that because it adds to the thickness. Sometimes Apple will sacrifice the design to achieve extra battery time, for example the iPad 3, but most times they will go for the design.

Valuing design has always been one of main characteristics that have defined Apple as a company, for better or for worse.

Fortunately for you, hi looks like the 5.5" iPhone May have proportionally more battery and perhaps better battery life. Maybe that one will work for you. In the mean time, let's compare battery life to products in the same relative product category. It would also be helpful helpful if you would stop personally attacking other people (a violation of this sites TOS) by calling them Apple apologists. We get that you made a poor purchasing decision. No need to take it out on the rest of the forum.

I couldn't agree more. At least this time there is (allegedly) a good alternative, the larger iPhone with nearly 3,000 mAh of battery capacity.

My guess would be that the new 4.7" iPhone will probably have a slightly longer battery time than the iPhone 5s. That may be too short for some but as mentioned before Apple has always been a company that leans toward the design so I doubt it'll change until there's a breakthrough in the battery technology.
 
The old phone did the same thing. The Genius Bar people in both London and Australia said it is just the iPhone 5 and everyone complains about it. They also said it usually makes people upgrade their phone yearly instead of every 2-3 years on average.

The problem is that I just don't really trust apple anymore to solve problems like this. Especially having two employees in two countries say that the solution is to 'upgrade' and give apple even more money.

I'd like to use iTunes Radio, for example, but my phone would be dead in about an hour. I don't think an upgrade to a 5s is really going to help much.

Well, I have an iPhone 5 and it can easily last a whole day. If you aren't getting past 3pm something is wrong. There might be an app running that is killing your battery. Unless you are constantly talking on it, or working under ground all day, you should make it past 3pm. Do you work the midnight shift and get off work around noon?
 
+1000

Do those Apple apologists at least realize what they are? "omg my iPhone 5 lasts 2 days!" If your iPhone 5 or 5s lasts 2 days or even a _full_ day, you probably could do fine with a 15$ flip phone. ;p

For some people, all-day battery means during work hours because they plug it in when they come back home but what happens when you go on vacation? Go out after work? Use GPS, play games with no access to a wall outlet until 10pm? You're screwed. Period, end of story.

If the battery is indeed 1810mAh, I'll be very disappointed. I currently own a Nexus 5 and I'm almost disappointed by the battery life, but that phone was dirt cheap. I plan on buying the iPhone 6 but geez... who cares about that 1mm? Bragging rights in exchange of crappy battery life? :\

- but what happens when you go on vacation? --> put the phone down and start enjoy quality time with your family and friends
- Go out after work? --> enjoy a good conversation with whoever you're going out with instead of burying your eyes in the phone, which many people do these days
- play games with no access to a wall outlet until 10pm --> put the phone down and start living life

I'm sick of seeing people burying their eyes in the screen of smartphones and then complain about battery life. I use my phone moderately on purpose so that I can do other things in life and that automatically rid me of battery problems.

heavy smartphone usage = life needs adjusting. period.
 
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