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well, you can use pie controls

Pie controls bring a completely different user experience, and not in a good way. I have them on my Nexus 4 and they can be enabled in the power menu easily. But it is far from offering the same user experience. A lot of apps will just think you are trying to scroll in the app or access some part of the UI.

Pie controls just are not a good alternative, despite people often suggesting them.

Plus this is argument shouldn't even be mentioned on a device like the Moto X that is meant for the masses. The masses won't know what this is and won't bother going through the hoops to get them on their device. The masses won't bother installing custom ROMs like we do.

Sorry, but all in all this is just a bad argument to use in favor of on-screen buttons.

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You realize the on screen buttons hide which makes it 4.7

Not when you are reading an article, playing a game, sending a text, checking feedly, on facebook, checking emails, browsing the internet, or really anything. They only hide when watching videos. And not every video app supports this either.
 
Pie controls bring a completely different user experience, and not in a good way. I have them on my Nexus 4 and they can be enabled in the power menu easily. But it is far from offering the same user experience. A lot of apps will just think you are trying to scroll in the app or access some part of the UI.

Pie controls just are not a good alternative, despite people often suggesting them.

Plus this is argument shouldn't even be mentioned on a device like the Moto X that is meant for the masses. The masses won't know what this is and won't bother going through the hoops to get them on their device. The masses won't bother installing custom ROMs like we do.

Sorry, but all in all this is just a bad argument to use in favor of on-screen buttons.

whatever, it's a 4.7" screen :D I don't want hardware buttons anyway
 
whatever, it's a 4.7" screen :D I don't want hardware buttons anyway

Its personal preference really. I mainly use my Nexus 4 for surfing the web, texting, feedly, etc. Rarely do I watch videos on it. So for my usage, I would much rather LG and Google have used the bottom bezel for capacitive buttons and given users more screen real estate.
 
Its personal preference really. I mainly use my Nexus 4 for surfing the web, texting, feedly, etc. Rarely do I watch videos on it. So for my usage, I would much rather LG and Google have used the bottom bezel for capacitive buttons and given users more screen real estate.

I hear you but android is optimized for on screen buttons hence why it's so much more quicker then capacitive buttons.
 
I hear you but android is optimized for on screen buttons hence why it's so much more quicker then capacitive buttons.

I'm not sure about it being quicker. The software buttons on my Nexus 4 and 7 lag and freeze every now and then. Not something I enjoy when it comes to the buttons that allow me to navigate my phone.
 
I'm not sure about it being quicker. The software buttons on my Nexus 4 and 7 lag and freeze every now and then. Not something I enjoy when it comes to the buttons that allow me to navigate my phone.

Fair enough on my Droid Razr HD they never lagged unlike the S4. We will see soon enough.
 
I think we're being a tad dramatic, don't you think? :D

They still need to make a standout Galaxy flagship killer to "change everything"

No, this could be a big success if Motorola can make masses aware of this device. Nexus devices were niche products at best.
 
For how much this phone and its CPU has been talked up it better be the smoothest version of Android we have ever seen on any device...I mean faster than iOS on an iPhone.
 
I bet you will be saying the same thing with 64GB internal and no microSD. And will be saying the same thing with 128GB internal and no microSD.

I WOULD be saying that for 64GB. I would probably not be saying that for 128 GB. Right now, with 32 GB on my phone and a 64 GB micro-sd card, I have 96 GB plus I can swap the micro-sd card and carry an extra. 128 GB might simulate that a bit, but a 64 GB limit is too small. This is one of the MANY reasons I switched from an iPhone.

In any case, a 32 GB hard limit is ridiculous for a media player.

Tony
 
I WOULD be saying that for 64GB. I would probably not be saying that for 128 GB. Right now, with 32 GB on my phone and a 64 GB micro-sd card, I have 96 GB plus I can swap the micro-sd card and carry an extra. 128 GB might simulate that a bit, but a 64 GB limit is too small. This is one of the MANY reasons I switched from an iPhone.

In any case, a 32 GB hard limit is ridiculous for a media player.

Tony

That's the thing. You want it as a media player. I suspected that. Some people have huge media collections.

But everyone is moving towards cloud base computing. Yes I know that involves Internet connection and some people don't have unlimited data.

But it's just the way everything is moving towards. Sure some games take up to 1-2 GB. And videos can take up space.

But I've had 32GB iPhones since 2009 with the 3GS to the iPhone 5. But with cloud computing I am using less storage and accessing what I need on the cloud.

Right now I use spotify for music. Have Skydrive for my documents.

It's just the future.
 
That's the thing. You want it as a media player. I suspected that. Some people have huge media collections.

But everyone is moving towards cloud base computing. Yes I know that involves Internet connection and some people don't have unlimited data.

But it's just the way everything is moving towards. Sure some games take up to 1-2 GB. And videos can take up space.

But I've had 32GB iPhones since 2009 with the 3GS to the iPhone 5. But with cloud computing I am using less storage and accessing what I need on the cloud.

Right now I use spotify for music. Have Skydrive for my documents.

It's just the future.

It's not the future. It's the PRESENT. And in the present, there is no infrastructure to support streaming 128 GB worth of media data. That is a PRESENT FACT. :)
 
It's not the future. It's the PRESENT. And in the present, there is no infrastructure to support streaming 128 GB worth of media data. That is a PRESENT FACT. :)

nope the FACT is...you're still stuck in the PAST.
 
Just create options. Options for all. Does creating options cost the manufacturers more money? Isn't that what the increased prices are there for to cover the extra cost of higher storage?

Create 16, 32, 64, and 128, why not? Just charge more.

I'd actually love to be enlightened on how this process works. Why doesn't Google/Moto order more and create higher storage for higher prices along with the lower storage for lower prices?

Personally, I love that HTC is setting the default storage at 32 GB.

32GB should not be the highest end storage option.
 
nope the FACT is...you're still stuck in the PAST.

:rolleyes:

I've had this ridiculous argument numerous times with people who are obviously not real media consumers. Streaming ONE single HD movie alone is 2.5 GB. Most people have 2 - 4 GB plans. Even if you have an unlimited plan, you pretty much get throttled at 6 GB, or 2-3 movies. Not to mention audio. Plus, the other 100 reasons why local media is so much better - from being able to view embedded lyrics in songs and actually see them, to being able to view things on the subway, to not having any drop outs in high volume zones, etc. Maybe these won't be issues in the future, but we are not even close to being there yet and not for some time until carriers overhaul their infrastructures. Jeez...
 
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