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Motorola 'Droid X' to Challenge iPhone 4's Retina Display? [Updated]

dtich said:
will you d*cks please stop beatching about the wifi-only facetime??? it will obviously come to cellular networks when they manage the throughput so it doesn't bog the whole pipeline down -- if you had 10 million iphones facetiming and the whole att network slowed to a crawl you'd be nonstop beatching about that too.
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Bingo. There are a few phones that support video calls over 3g, but it's only because there aren't that many of them out there yet (and since there are relatively few, there aren't many people to make video calls to).

The current 3G networks just aren't ready to support widespread video calling yet, period. But we'll see it someday.
 
Their tagline is "The next generation of does?" Someone should be fired for that. The word does is the plural of doe, and actually works as a noun in the sentence. That's some extreme genetic engineering, making a female deer into a phone in one generation.

I know using poor grammar in marketing is ubiquitous, but that's just bizarre.
 
It looks nice. Very nice update from the original Droid. I wouldn't mind purchasing this phone. It seems like the iPhone 5 (or whatever it'll be call next year) will need a bigger screen. Before you know it, tons of phones will have a 4" or higher screen...especially by June 2011.
 
kdarling said:
Wait. Are you talking about Android or iOS ? It's hard to tell.

There are millions of iPhones and iPod touches runniing older OS versions... and either unable to update to the latest version or use all its features.

There are also millions of iOS devices with fragmented hardware specs. Most have GPS, some not. Some have a compass, some not. Three different screen resolutions now, too.
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I'm talking handsets, you're talking devices. Maybe we should speak the same language and compare apples to apples, or androids to androids. :D

There are at last (unofficial - by me) count, 47 different Android smartphone handsets. I'm not certain the exact number of different devices running iOS, but it's certainly fewer than 47 (and growing).

Now, my original point was the number of handsets (and number of versions of the OS running on them) - I think that's a combination (not a permutation, right?) is much larger than the number of combinations of Apple iOS and Apple handsets. Again, as a developer, fewer to test on is better.

Now what was your point?
 
huck500 said:
Their tagline is "The next generation of does?" Someone should be fired for that. The word does is the plural of doe, and actually works as a noun in the sentence. That's some extreme genetic engineering, making a female deer into a phone in one generation.

I know using poor grammar in marketing is ubiquitous, but that's just bizarre.
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I'm surprised more people haven't noticed that. It always bugged me the first time around when they had billboards with lines like "a big box of does".

Shouldn't the new phone be the next generation of res? You know, a drop of golden sun?
 
milo said:
The current 3G networks just aren't ready to support widespread video calling yet, period. But we'll see it someday.
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That's true in your neighbourhood but not true everywhere. The phone networks here offer more than 40Mbps and are more than ready for heavy video chat utilisation. Network providers are already running live video streams of news, sport, entertainment and it's very impressive. It's also at low cost because capacity isn't constrained.

Poor investment in US phone networks is needlessly crimping a capability that should be on from day one for the rest of us.
 
Becordial said:
That's true in your neighbourhood but not true everywhere. The phone networks here offer more than 40Mbps and are more than ready for heavy video chat utilisation. Network providers are already running live video streams of news, sport, entertainment and it's very impressive. It's also at low cost because capacity isn't constrained.

Poor investment in US phone networks is needlessly crimping a capability that should be on from day one for the rest of us.
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Where is "here"?
 
If this hasn't been said already, Engadget has already posted another update stating that Verizon has updated the webpage and confirmed that it only outputs 720p via HDMI.
 
huck500 said:
Their tagline is "The next generation of does?" Someone should be fired for that. The word does is the plural of doe, and actually works as a noun in the sentence.
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Well, the original campaign was about "iDon't" vs. "Droid Does". It was all about a long list of things the iPhone doesn't do. Since the tagline has been out there for several months, I guess they expect people to be familiar with their use of "does".

I've seen worse. Like when Electrolux (the world's 2nd largest manufacturer of home appliances) marketed their vacuum cleaners on English speaking markets with the slogan "Nothing sucks like an Electrolux". In Swedish, vacuum cleaner is called "dammsugare" (dust sucker) and they were unaware of the negative connotations of the word suck (I think this was in the 50's or 60's). And then there's Mitsubishi Pajero...
 
So looks like it's 854x480, 4.3 inches, 228 ppi. Not bad, but not even close to iPhone 4.
 
I can't wait to see what responses to the 'screw up' the droid fans will come up with on engadget and gizmodo.
 
Drag'nGT said:
I can't wait to see what responses to the 'screw up' the droid fans will come up with on engadget and gizmodo.
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Isn't that the truth?!?! I swear I'm almost completely convinced that all the Evo/DroidX fanboys are 13 years old at this point. Who cares if the battery only lasts 6hrs its got a ginormous screen!! Warrgarrbll
 
if you keep it upright the display has over 720 lines so Im thinking that's how they are saying that they are getting 720p display

720p is the shorthand name for a category of HDTV video modes. The number 720 stands for the 720 horizontal scan lines of display resolution (also known as 720 pixels of vertical resolution), while the letter p stands for progressive scan or non-interlaced. When broadcast at 60[1] frames per second, 720p features the highest temporal (motion) resolution possible under the ATSC and DVB standards. In the United States, 720p is the preferred format for Fox and ABC.
 
Becordial said:
That's true in your neighbourhood but not true everywhere. The phone networks here offer more than 40Mbps and are more than ready for heavy video chat utilisation.
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If you're talking about Europe (I live there too)... yeah, we were quick to roll out 3G infrastructure and all that, but lately many of the European carriers who used to have generous unlimited data plans have now started to put caps on them (2 GB, 5 GB etc). Our networks are buckling under data traffic abuse too. All it takes is one or two zitfaced teens who think it's a good idea to use wireless 3G for relentless 24/7 torrenting, and the whole area will be f***ed, data will be slow as molasses and calls will be dropped. Over the last 2-3 years, usage of wireless 3G has reached critical mass and it will be another 5-10 years before the infrastructure will be able to handle today's demands. For the time being, the last thing the carriers (be they American or European) want is an explosion of yet another bandwidth-hogging service like video chat.
 
sfh said:
if you keep it upright the display has over 720 lines so Im thinking that's how they are saying that they are getting 720p display
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Or you could just read the thread. (SPOILER ALERT: it was a typo and they've already fixed it)

So is MR going to update the front page? Until they do, we'll probably keep seeing "hey, that's a high resolution" posts and similar.
 
roland.g said:
I have an iPad, so sorry but iPhone 4 or Droid Xtrafail, it doesn't matter, I'm going to watch HD movies on my iPad, not my wittle phone screen.
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Hmmm.......to me, "HD" is not 1024x768 on a 9" screen. When I think HD, I think 1080p, on a screen 50" (or bigger), with at least 5.1 surround. But, whatever floats your boat.
 
milo said:
So looks like it's 854x480, 4.3 inches, 228 ppi. Not bad, but not even close to iPhone 4.
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In other words the same resolution they had on the previous 3.7" screen, so the PPI has actually gone down. That figures. They were already on 854x480 so they couldn't multiply it by 2 like Apple did. Apple had the benefit of a crappy screen resolution on the previous generation, so 4x the resolution was within reach. Motorola will have to wait until they can do 1708x960 screens, or redo everything for a different resolution somewhere inbetween.

I think that's what Steve meant when he said the Retina display will have a leg up on the competition for a few years. It won't be long before even higher res screens are available, but that doesn't mean manufacturers will be able to switch... if they're already on A*B they can't go C*D, they need (A*2)*(B*2).
 
Walko83 said:
Apple has a product that works, plain and simple. Why does it matter to you what other people do with their money, if you are annoyed by the fanboyism then just stop coming to a forum devoted to apple products.
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Really? Half the posts on here are about how lame AT&T is. A phone that can't make calls doesn't "just work" in my opinion. But oh look, shiny!
 
JAT said:
I think you've been at the wrong forum. They were called on it quite a bit, techie HT people
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No, you mean false-pedant Internet trolls whined about it, like they whine about everything.

There was and is no technical violation nor qualitative difference between the two--those early 42" plasma HDTVs regularly delivered outstanding picture quality and displayed no discernable difference in image detail through the use of non-square pixels, and not one manufacturer ever got in any sort of trouble for having made them.
Interestingly, this did change with the advent of HDTV.
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No, it didn't. HDTV resolutions are still named after their line count.
If you go back to SD years
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SDTV and HDTV are both digital standards defined under ATSC. You're talking about NTSC analog television, not SDTV.
you see marketing of "700 lines" in high-end TVs
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Where?
It fooled people all the time, we must have some in-born assumption that it means vertical counting
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Lines run horizontally, columns run vertically.
 
azentropy said:
At the rate that Android phones are being released, I think the days of Apple just being able to do a yearly update are over. While Android is still behind IMO, the gap has narrowed.
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Unfortunately, that's also one of the biggest problems with Android...which phone is best, which phone is running 2.1 or 2.2, which phone is on which carrier, etc, etc??? It's a marketing nightmare, and so confusing.

As in their design, Apple's product line-up simplicity is attractive.
 
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