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Better put than me but I agree I've waited with my ipHone 4, then got a second hand 4s as I think 5 is a waste of money. I can only hope it's not too much in the UK..

Welcome back later. That's what happened to my friend after switching to Samsng. His next phone will be iPhone.
 
The success of this phone will come down to how well the Google voice commands work, and whether the Moto X is actually easier to use than its competitors as a result.

If Moto X raises the bar, I think it'll be a winner. Otherwise, it's just another Android phone with middling specifications.

Not just that, plus how well battery lasts with voice commands used frequently and in parallel with other apps like playing games and maps.

Laypeople don't care whether the processors are overloaded.

Advertisement use cases are choreographed. Real use cases will not be so clean, effective and efficient. There is no magic here. The battery life and processors are not industry leading.
 
You do realize that the $199 is for a two year contract???

Yeah I know, I realized that too late. My mistake.

Actually I'm annoyed with the rumors concerning the price of the "cheap" iPhone. If it costs 300 $ or more, I'll definitely buy something else, and ... almost anything will do. Just need a new phone with a decent camera that works.
 
It's not any wider than other phones in its class.

In fact... it's actually the narrowest phone compared to other 4.7"+ phones.

Is it wider than the iPhone? Of course, but only slightly: 2.47" vs 2.31"

But the iPhone 5 has a 4" 16x9 screen and this has a 4.7" 16x9 screen.
I said it looks wider.
 
Not but you could be having a private conversation or giving your bank or checking account number to someone and one of those pesky hacked apps you bought from Google play figures out how to tap into this always on feature.

Jebus people, stop using empty arguments when you have nothing to say.
Every app you install on your iphone has same permission access needs it's just nobody asks you if you agree on that nor you see what the app is accessing.

Don't look for porn or shady apps and you will be fine.
We test apps for various purposes and from about 4500 we went through none was ever malicious.

Ignorance is not a bliss anymore. Just makes you look 10.
 
Yeah I know, I realized that too late. My mistake.

Actually I'm annoyed with the rumors concerning the price of the "cheap" iPhone. If it costs 300 $ or more, I'll definitely buy something else, and ... almost anything will do. Just need a new phone with a decent camera that works.

You actually believe there is a chance that the iPhone will cost less than 300$?

Save yourself the trouble and go buy that cheap phone you want right now.
 
Sounds like a paid comment. How well do you think voice command will work in a coffee shop or when out to eat. Then there is of course other people that you have convinced to buy this thing yelling Google Now into their phones.

The camera thing is not a good idea. I thought the shake was neat on the iPhone but soon turned it off because it would activate when ever the motion was done unintentionally as well. Frustrating! You will have lots of pictures from purses and pockets and of things you might not want someone who you are sharing picks with to see. Worse would be them getting posted to Facebook by accident.
Almost all of the features the most vocal members of this site, who are always ready to jump ship, fawns over on their beloved Google phones are completely useless and do not get used at all by regular people.

Google voice recognition works pretty damn impressive in most environments. When my headset plugged in I can write a text/email while rollerblading or riding a bike. Very few errors and in two different languages (separately of course).
It's awesome
 
I'm having the same reaction to this I used to have to PCs in the mid-90s.

Nice hardware. Too bad about the operating system though.
 
Jebus people, stop using empty arguments when you have nothing to say.
Every app you install on your iphone has same permission access needs it's just nobody asks you if you agree on that nor you see what the app is accessing.

Don't look for porn or shady apps and you will be fine.
We test apps for various purposes and from about 4500 we went through none was ever malicious.

Ignorance is not a bliss anymore. Just makes you look 10.

The Apple reviewers will check what resources the apps try to access. iOS will also pop up dialog if sensitive resources like the camera is accessed. There are also anonymizing tech to protect the ID of the user.

Plus anti-theft activation and other stuff in iOS7 to protect the users.
 
Why on earth are they claiming 24 hour battery? That's just a marketing BS way of saying "it lasts a day with average use" which is the case for almost every major smartphone now. They know damn well it will be immediately debunked so why bother? There is no way in hell they got a 2200mAH to last anything even remotely close to 24 hours of usage when Motorola themselves make phones with higher capacity batteries. Unless of course they've mastered witchcraft.
 
Google voice recognition works pretty damn impressive in most environments. When my headset plugged in I can write a text/email while rollerblading or riding a bike. Very few errors and in two different languages (separately of course).
It's awesome

Different languages have different accuracy. In Siri, I got people from different countries to try it out. Cantonese and Chinese are the most impressive. It got everything right. English is somewhere in the middle. More prone to accent.

I did another small test on the beta the day before, it's improved significantly. No mistake for my 4 test cases that used to fail. :)

Will try more next week when I have more time.
 
Why on earth are they claiming 24 hour battery? That's just a marketing BS way of saying "it lasts a day with average use" which is the case for almost every major smartphone now.


I wondered about that. Is that 24 hours of normal use or standby time? My current phone lasts a week if I don't touch it at all.
 
You actually believe there is a chance that the iPhone will cost less than 300$?

Considering the history of the iPods, I don't see why Apple wouldn't come out with a less powered phone for a much lower price tag.
The iPod Nano was made available to millions of young people who couldn't afford the Classic, it just didn't have all the bells and whistles.

So yes, I actually believe there is a possibility and a market for a 250-300$ iPhone. I hope so too.
 
Thoughts....

A bit of history:

I had a iphone 4, got bored and went to a Galaxy S3. The reasons i came back to an iphone 5 were:

What i didn't like about the S3:

  1. S3 battery was awful. I even sent it back to Vodafone to fix and there were "not problems" with it, so i don't think i had a dud.
  2. Screen size for me was just past the boundary of practicality, using the edge to edge of the keyboard made it a 2 handed job.
  3. When your friends and family have iPhones, the photo-stream is great for sharing photos.
  4. Im quite in the Apple garden, so things like iTunes sync was do-able but not as smooth as having an iphone.

What i liked about the S3/Android:

  1. Google maps is better than Apple.
  2. Hangouts is great for me to keep contact with Android friends/family
  3. NFC

So after all this, if this Moto X does have the battery life its says and with the nice notification screen, it is a great phone. My negative points about working with Android (for me) would still be there, but this phone is now really showing what apple needs to come up with, and unfortunately i do think they're playing catch up at the moment. I'd like better mapping, better notifications and perhaps a slightly different form factor. I found the S3 was better in the pocket as it was thiner, so the wider screen didn't feel any bigger (until i typed on it, but thats my smaller hands).
 
Very plausible.

Not but you could be having a private conversation or giving your bank or checking account number to someone and one of those pesky hacked apps you bought from Google play figures out how to tap into this always on feature.

Yes I can see this happening....

I can picture a hacker in his basement listening to hundreds of hours of random conversations. And waiting for someone to say their bank account number.:D
 
This might be a winner! And assembled in the USA.

I saw a news piece on this tonight on ABC. This is the first mobile phone Motorola has made in the US in over a decade. A number if the internals are US sourced as well. The factory plans to employ over 2000 people by the end of August.

All this said, I'm still waiting for iPhone 6... ;)
 
So it comes with version 4.2.2. Even though it's owned by Google, it still can't have the latest Android version. What the heck? :/
 
So it comes with version 4.2.2. Even though it's owned by Google, it still can't have the latest Android version. :/

Does it have the master key exploit fix ? :p

Odd that they can't use the latest Android since there is arguably no bloatsware or is there ?
 
My only turn off on this phone is the screen. I can't stand over-saturated screens. The price, I really don't mind since that would be the price I would pay anyways for any flagship phones.

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So it comes with version 4.2.2. Even though it's owned by Google, it still can't have the latest Android version. What the heck? :/

4.3 is very incremental anyways.
 
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