BTW AndroidfoLife... with your forum name, I think it's funny that you've resorted to diss'g Google products too since your efforts to diss Apple seems to be failing.
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Motorola Xoom Tablet Sales: Approximately 100,000 Units So Far?
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BTW AndroidfoLife... with your forum name, I think it's funny that you've resorted to diss'g Google products too since your efforts to diss Apple seems to be failing.
So please, in all your infinite wisdom that you've shown with your vast vocabulary, explain to us how the XOOM is a "crappy product".
Thank god PlipPlop, super genius came along to educate us poor unwashed.
I bet you're a lot of fun to hang out with.
Poor battery life, awkward screen aspect ratio, OS interface is awful... basically scaled up from a phone, overpriced, the Verizon scam (you MUST sign up for at least one month of data). I'm not even an iPad fan but you'd be as well off j'breaking a Nook Color.
Two attempted insults... you're looking at a ding from arn.
Yeah, that would be a convincing argument... except of course, for, you know... the facts.
iOS is an operating system. There are more iOS devices than Android devices.
The iPhone is a smartphone. There are more iPhones than any other smartphone.
The iPad is a tablet. There are more iPads than any other tablet.
So Apple is making the most popular mobile OS, the most popular smart phone, and the most popular tablet.
Android isn't "winning" anything, in quantity or quality.
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I don't know what he could say, but from every review I've read, it certainly seems less than exemplary.
Descriptions range around "unfinished", "not ready", "unpolished", "no apps", "apps crash", OS "not robust", "ergonomically awkward".
I don't know if all that constitutes "crappy", but it certainly isn't "flawless" or "great".
Find me a better GarageBand, iMovie, safari, games, productivity apps, MobileMe mail and app for everything tablet for 499 and I wil buy it.
As long as it has the
logo on it of course.
You're a bit out of date: the one-month Verizon requirement disappeared before the Xoom launch.
Umm, also I would say Honeycomb's launcher was definitely not scaled up from a phone, unlike the iPad's bigger icon grid.
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LOL
And yet, somehow, the Xoom still gets a bunch of buzz and people are still waiting for Android tablets to topple the iPad.
I'm not getting it. Really. Apple owns this market right now, and unless they just stop innovating for the next year or more, no one catches them.
I'm not getting it. Really. Apple owns this market right now, and unless they just stop innovating for the next year or more, no one catches them.
Don't forget that Microsoft was a bad copy of Mac OS in the beginning.. Apple laugh hard that time and then as if nobody were looking, Windows became the standard in the computer industry. Even we the Apple fans know for sure Mac OS has always be the best reliable OS to date people stills think that a real computer needs Windows to work properly.
Maybe the Xoom is a joke today, maybe not. If Apple don't work hard about improving the next devices the history can repeat itself this time Apple vs Google.
IPhone is the leader of today smartphone industry.... but Android is taken the masses one by one... be prepared.... be very prepared for the innevitable.
Maybe the Xoom is a joke today, maybe not. If Apple don't work hard about improving the next devices the history can repeat itself this time Apple vs Google.
IPhone is the leader of today smartphone industry.... but Android is taken the masses one by one... be prepared.... be very prepared for the innevitable.
Staples had a Xoom set up on one of their endcaps so while my daughter was picking up some school supplies, I wandered over there to take a look. Keep in mind, I played with it about 5 minutes before she dragged me away.
First off: I couldn't find the sleep/awake button. Ran my fingers all around the bezel and could fine it. Finally had to peer over the display (it was bolded to the endcap) and find it visually. This is minor and once you find it its not a big deal, but it's a detail that niggles at me. Not a good start.
However, once i got it on, it was pretty slick. I did like the widgets and the tabbed browser was pretty nice. It did seem responsive as well, but still slightly... off. even with the app management cleared. I know its nitpicky but it bothered me. HOwever, it was pretty easy to see the myriad of ways to customize the interface and how I could tailor it to my needs. But there is a flip side to that: It would be MY tablet. My wife and kids would have to work around the way I set it up. Not a big deal but it does creating the illusion that it's mine and not the family's. I know that doesn't sound like a big deal or even a deal, but it would be a factor. WIth my iPhone, when it's in my son's hands, it's his, not dad's, same with my wife and daughters. A virtual Tabula Rasa. (wow what a pun!!)
I could actually see myself getting one of these Xooms EXCEPT:
1. Way too expensive for what it offers. Maybe with the wi-fi only which is about the same price as a comparable iPad.
2. Available apps. Yes I'm sure they are coming, but I'm not going to drop a wad of cash on promises that may or may not pan out. (I'm sure there are more than 16 tablet apps) but it unconscionable that Google did not give devs a chance to develop some tablet specific apps before Honeycomb was released. That move really begs people to say, "What do I need this for?" Apple was able to come to the iPad announcement and show what it could do and how many apps were already available for it. This isn't the Xoom or Motorola's fault. This was Google's screw up. Again, I'm sure it will get much better but it's actions like that, that give people pause when considering a purchase.
3. The fact that it was released missing its main selling points (Flash and SD card support and something else..) really makes me question just how much Motorola would stand behind the product. It's like the Xoom more of a placeholder for the REAL Xoom than a real product they want to sell.
4. I have an iPHone and a ton of apps so I'm locked into the iTunes ecosystem. And i like that. Call me a sheep or whatever, but I have had my fill of playing with devices trying customizing, tweaking, fixing crashes, beating my head against software like Activesync (designed by Satan himself) etc. I want something that just works. Also, I want a comprehensive selection of apps tailored to the tablet. Yes, iTunes is a pig, but I can leave it to do it's thing without any thought. I don't want to have to manage files. I have a computer at work I have to do that with and having to do that on my tablet at home would feel too much like work.
5. Netflix. nuff said. I'm sure Android will get it but again, I'm not buying something on the hope that it will eventually get the apps i really want.
6. The Xoom felt unpolished. I would say that this could be an artifact of a lot of people playing around with it and messing around with settings or whatever, but I have read too many reviews supporting this experience. It will get better, I'm sure, but I'm not spending money hoping it will.
This sounds like I'm down on the Xoom but really I was pretty impressed. More impressed than i thought i would be. In fact, when it goes on sale on Woot!, I'll probably buy one for the family.
But overall, I think Motorola really screwed this up by releasing it when they did. If they would have waited a couple of more months, got the software and hardware running together right, had all the features they were advertising then I think it would have been a true contender. But I understand their motivation, they were trying to bleed off a few people who were waiting for the iPad 2. But i think they just damaged their reputation with people who are looking for an iPad alternative. Buying it at this point is more like buying a set of promises that may or may not pan out.
Just my thoughts on 5 minutes with the Xoom.
First off: I couldn't find the sleep/awake button. Ran my fingers all around the bezel and could fine it. Finally had to peer over the display (it was bolded to the endcap) and find it visually. This is minor and once you find it its not a big deal, but it's a detail that niggles at me. Not a good start.
However, once i got it on, it was pretty slick. I did like the widgets and the tabbed browser was pretty nice. It did seem responsive as well, but still slightly... off. even with the app management cleared. I know its nitpicky but it bothered me. HOwever, it was pretty easy to see the myriad of ways to customize the interface and how I could tailor it to my needs. But there is a flip side to that: It would be MY tablet. My wife and kids would have to work around the way I set it up. Not a big deal but it does creating the illusion that it's mine and not the family's. I know that doesn't sound like a big deal or even a deal, but it would be a factor. WIth my iPhone, when it's in my son's hands, it's his, not dad's, same with my wife and daughters. A virtual Tabula Rasa. (wow what a pun!!)
I could actually see myself getting one of these Xooms EXCEPT:
1. Way too expensive for what it offers. Maybe with the wi-fi only which is about the same price as a comparable iPad.
2. Available apps. Yes I'm sure they are coming, but I'm not going to drop a wad of cash on promises that may or may not pan out. (I'm sure there are more than 16 tablet apps) but it unconscionable that Google did not give devs a chance to develop some tablet specific apps before Honeycomb was released. That move really begs people to say, "What do I need this for?" Apple was able to come to the iPad announcement and show what it could do and how many apps were already available for it. This isn't the Xoom or Motorola's fault. This was Google's screw up. Again, I'm sure it will get much better but it's actions like that, that give people pause when considering a purchase.
3. The fact that it was released missing its main selling points (Flash and SD card support and something else..) really makes me question just how much Motorola would stand behind the product. It's like the Xoom more of a placeholder for the REAL Xoom than a real product they want to sell.
4. I have an iPHone and a ton of apps so I'm locked into the iTunes ecosystem. And i like that. Call me a sheep or whatever, but I have had my fill of playing with devices trying customizing, tweaking, fixing crashes, beating my head against software like Activesync (designed by Satan himself) etc. I want something that just works. Also, I want a comprehensive selection of apps tailored to the tablet. Yes, iTunes is a pig, but I can leave it to do it's thing without any thought. I don't want to have to manage files. I have a computer at work I have to do that with and having to do that on my tablet at home would feel too much like work.
5. Netflix. nuff said. I'm sure Android will get it but again, I'm not buying something on the hope that it will eventually get the apps i really want.
6. The Xoom felt unpolished. I would say that this could be an artifact of a lot of people playing around with it and messing around with settings or whatever, but I have read too many reviews supporting this experience. It will get better, I'm sure, but I'm not spending money hoping it will.
This sounds like I'm down on the Xoom but really I was pretty impressed. More impressed than i thought i would be. In fact, when it goes on sale on Woot!, I'll probably buy one for the family.
But overall, I think Motorola really screwed this up by releasing it when they did. If they would have waited a couple of more months, got the software and hardware running together right, had all the features they were advertising then I think it would have been a true contender. But I understand their motivation, they were trying to bleed off a few people who were waiting for the iPad 2. But i think they just damaged their reputation with people who are looking for an iPad alternative. Buying it at this point is more like buying a set of promises that may or may not pan out.
Just my thoughts on 5 minutes with the Xoom.
Not surprised at all.
There's really only two reasons why they have such appalling sales figures:
1) Price point.
2) Advertising/coverage
There's really only two reasons why they have such appalling sales figures:
1) Price point.
2) Advertising/coverage
There are currently more Android based devices then their are iOS. Android does not just power tablets and Smartphones. It has Ereaders, Tvs and various other things. Android is the most versatile of all the current Mobile OSs so its not surprising that it is being implemented on other things.
Iphone is the single highest selling smartphone as of right now. I honestly thing Lg's optimus 1 series of smartphones may dethrone it. The optimus series of Smartphones is on every major carrier but AT&T and it is one of the cheapest android phones on the market and being functional at the same time. Hell I got one when my blackberry broke on t-mobile and i have no complaints.
In the future the iphone will only be competing in what will be called the "high end" smartphones.
So be it. If it drives you to be more descriptive in your attacks on anything not Apple, then I'll take a disciplinary action.
See the article I linked to earlier in the thread. Apple doesn't dominate the smartphone market in terms of market share, but where they do dominate is in making money. And that's just the phones, not counting what they make from apps, ads, MobileMe, accessories, retail, ...
The Android market is unfortunately a race to the bottom. Much like the whole Netbook craze a couple of years ago. $200-$300 mostly lousy Windows or Linux boxes that little by little became almost indistinguishable from regular notebooks. You've got to sell TONS of those machines to make any real money.
Apple has apparently learned from their past mistakes.
The iPad is wildly successful because the cost of entry isn't $1000 it's $500, same for the current MBA. Sony, Lenovo and others have had ultralights before, but they usually cost $2000+ like the original MBA. Apple comes in with a machine that costs half that for the low end model.
Apple owns the >$1000 notebook market where they can make money, and they leave the cheap boxes to everyone else to fight over razor thin margins.
If in the smartphone market they can make ~50% of the industry's profit with 4% of the phones.
It's genius.
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3) Device is not ready for market.
OS still in Beta form & advertised features (flash, SD) don't work.
Exactly.
Poor competition will make Apple "rest on its laurels" more than no competition. I can't figure out why people such the person you responded to like to throw in that "competition is good" chestnut all the time. Its guaranteed to show up on all such threads. Do these people think tey are delivering some new it of wisdom? LOL
LMAO
You "learnt [sic] too long ago..."; you mean you learned it so long ago its no longer useful or you forgot it? Or do you mean you also learned it long ago?