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Mozilla Releases Firefox 3 Web Browser
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a104375
macrumors 6502
I would like to say that I have notice a great speed increase/memory management. with ff2 if I had 10 tabs open it would lag when switching between tabs and with ff3 I am able to have the same 10 tabs open but i can switch between them in a instant. which I think is awesome
AJsAWiz
macrumors 68040
chagla
macrumors 6502a
I fully agree. It's really sad when you read articles like this one...
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Care to explain a little better how exactly Opera is "bloatware"? You must be talking about the numerous built in advanced features in Opera? Even with all those, Opera runs much faster than firefox? To add all those functions of Opera, tell me how many "extensions" you will need? and then let me know how fast firefox runs eh? ff is just a basic, bare bones browser which needs "extensions" for everything. i don't want to install anything made by non-developers. recently some of these "extensions" were found to be some kind exploits.
the reason for FFs success is advertisement. Opera wasn't free when FF came out. that's the biggest unfortunate event for Opera.
Anyone see the print bug?
I have had an issue with FF for a while now (including the final version) where if I print a page I can not print it again via the menu. The print menu is disabled. I can still print with Command-P but not from the GUI.
Anyone else see this?
I have had an issue with FF for a while now (including the final version) where if I print a page I can not print it again via the menu. The print menu is disabled. I can still print with Command-P but not from the GUI.
Anyone else see this?
clevin
macrumors G3
I think its not a good habit to abuse the word "copy", opera changed a lot of shorcuts to be like firefox, opera changed alot of UI to be as simple as firefox, opera implemented search as you type as firefox, opera added about😱pera to be like about:config of firefox.
Do I call those copy? NO, I call it constructive learning. Holding your own castle and refuse to improve, thats stupid, Im glad all browser teams are learning from each other, only users benefit.
I wouldn't call opera bloatware, but is it really necessary for opera to built in a widget function, a half hearted M2 client and a bt downloader?
unfortunately, thats opera's own fault, wasn't it? 🙂
Darkroom
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hotmail totally works for me on Safari 3.1.1... i just tested it, and haven't been there in years, and i'm so glad i use gmail... wow...
Watabou
macrumors 68040
Does anyone know if Multi touch support was added to Firefox 3? Possible only on the Macbook Air?
In the Macbook Air forum, people say that multi touch works on Firefox 3 without Multiclutch and one user claimed that it only worked on his air and not in his Macbook pro.
Can anyone confirm?
In the Macbook Air forum, people say that multi touch works on Firefox 3 without Multiclutch and one user claimed that it only worked on his air and not in his Macbook pro.
Can anyone confirm?
HA! MS sent Mozilla a cake.....
http://arstechnica.com/journals/lin...ke-is-a-lie-ie-team-bakes-a-treat-for-mozilla
I wonder.. is that cake buggy, too?
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I have a question for safari users. I am not sure if any of you use university of phoenix online at all, but the reason I am stuck using FF is because the web forum message postings do not work properly in safari.
A text box is similar to the macrumors box I am typing in (i.e. bold, italic, font names, sizes are at the top embedded in the box) and in FF the html tags convert the text in the text box itself. (i.e. the text is selected as bold and in the text box it is bolded) In safari however, all I see is the html tags. In all my posts, it seems safari is not converting the html code into proper text for everyone else in class. They see all my words along with all the html tags making it hard to read.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a way to make safari properly send html tags to a webpage forum? I"d love to move away from FF and use safari (it is a lot faster) but cannot due to having to log into the school forum frequently.
I have upgraded to safari 4 in hopes that it cures this bizarre problem, but unfortunately it does not seem to be working. Safari doesn't work properly with livejournal's tags either. Damn. 😡 Back to FF I guess.
(I just got off of a 14 hour shift so I might be slightly incoherent. I really hope someone understands my post!)
A text box is similar to the macrumors box I am typing in (i.e. bold, italic, font names, sizes are at the top embedded in the box) and in FF the html tags convert the text in the text box itself. (i.e. the text is selected as bold and in the text box it is bolded) In safari however, all I see is the html tags. In all my posts, it seems safari is not converting the html code into proper text for everyone else in class. They see all my words along with all the html tags making it hard to read.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a way to make safari properly send html tags to a webpage forum? I"d love to move away from FF and use safari (it is a lot faster) but cannot due to having to log into the school forum frequently.
I have upgraded to safari 4 in hopes that it cures this bizarre problem, but unfortunately it does not seem to be working. Safari doesn't work properly with livejournal's tags either. Damn. 😡 Back to FF I guess.
(I just got off of a 14 hour shift so I might be slightly incoherent. I really hope someone understands my post!)
MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
They look almost 100% identical here. Maybe it is that soft LCD effect I've heard about and only shows up on LCD monitors because they're nearly identical here on this CRT. The Firefox one has text that looks every so slightly darker black (probably no fuzzy whatever applied to it to help on LCD), but otherwise, they are exactly the same sharpness, etc. on my CRT.
Loving FF 3
I'm a long time FF user, and I must say that this new version is the best they've had. They've come a long way, and have done their research. This UI looks very similar to Safari. I'm not sure if anyone has said this already cos I'm new to this forum, but even the tabs look just like safari because they form and are selected upward.
I'm a long time FF user, and I must say that this new version is the best they've had. They've come a long way, and have done their research. This UI looks very similar to Safari. I'm not sure if anyone has said this already cos I'm new to this forum, but even the tabs look just like safari because they form and are selected upward.
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Applepi
macrumors 6502a
I have been turning to FF3 every now and again when I need to use one of their useful add ons, but for some reason I can't stay on it for a long period of time or I get very uncomfortable (cabin fever?). As soon as I go back to Safari, I'm instantly relieved. It's weird, I know.
Either way, kudos to Mozilla for the big improvements..but I still cannot abandon Safari.
Either way, kudos to Mozilla for the big improvements..but I still cannot abandon Safari.
MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
Well, I tried Camino awhile back and thought it was total crap (I prefer Safari and Firefox...even 1.5 Firefox to it), although I'm sure it could be argued that it simply didn't look or behave the way I'd hoped for and I didn't give it a real chance in the end. But then I could make the same argument with you. The one real difference is that Firefox with a few add-ons can be made to look and behave almost any way you could want. I posted links to a site that explains how to virtually turn FF3 into Safari 3.1 (with the added bonus of being able to use all kinds of extensions any time you want).
Honestly, I believe Firefox's UI is well beyond Safari save a couple items like the resizing text box (which you can add with an add-on). Most of your comments read to me like it's not Safari so it sucks. No matter how close it gets to Safari, I personally tend to think you will still believe it sucks because it's still not Safari made by Apple.
Well it sure is a different world from when IE killed Netscape and browsers stagnated for years. Now we've got IE, Firefox, Safari and Opera all trying to outdo each other.
MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
Ok, I'm reading your link. It says first and foremost that Firefox3 does not get 'lighter' when it's in the background--that it's always DARK unlike Safari and that the Firefox theming engine won't allow it to. Um... either that changed since he tried the BETA (as in it's not the final release) or he's just plain wrong. I'm using FF3 right now and if I put it in the background, it goes light just like Safari with the default theme.
I wasn't even aware there was a dictionary feature for Safari. I'll have to try that out. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an add-on to support something similar, though. I've never even considered it before. Let's see...yup right off the bat here's one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/68
It goes on and on and on about the page load progress indicator being "a total win for Safari" even though the "Fission" add-on for Firefox3 gives it the same functionality. I guess the reviewer didn't really look into what Firefox is capable of doing with a little customization. What he fails to realize is that Firefox's design has always been to let extensions handle custom features. And you have to admit a dictionary while useful isn't exactly directly related to web browsing itself. Safari is set up to use MacOSX features whereas Firefox is designed to run on several platforms, not all of which look and/or act like a Mac. And yet with a few clicks you can make it look and behave almost identical to Safari if that happens to be your cup of tea.
I miss things in Safari like Middle Click over a tab to close it. Unlike Firefox where I can get a tab package add-on to solve my tab woes, I'm stuck with Safari's default behaviors and if I don't happen to like some of them, too bad. It's the Jobs way or find another browser.
I'm not sure why you don't seem to understand the concept that Web-Kit only made certain new standards work "just enough" to pass the Acid3 test specifically. They do not support those standards enough to ACTUALLY BE USED in day-to-day practice. A Firefox developer was quoted as saying that is not the way they do business with their browser, making spotty changes just to pass a specific limited test but then have no actual support for the technologies involved. They intend to add full support for those standards and when that's finished it'll past that part of the test. In other words, Web-kit when examined looks kind of dumb to short-change their users like that. They pretend to be able to do things they cannot do. It's deception. It's why some sites won't work on Safari but DO work on Firefox. Firefox isn't half-baked in those areas.
Maybe you prefer deception over real features, but I do not.
Clearly.
Eminemdrdre00
macrumors 6502a
The "awesome" bar is the only thing keeping me from upgrading to 3.0. I'm going to wait until an extension comes out to make the URL bar behave the same way it did in FF2. :\
MagnusVonMagnum
macrumors 603
the bt downloader is the reason I deleted Opera from OSX. It took over being the default BT client in OSX and the only way to disable it STILL brings up Opera first (as in I click on a BT link in Firefox or Safari) and then loads your own client. The whole thing is if I'm not using Opera, I don't want it load up (and thereby waste my time and start chewing on resources) period. That was about 6 months ago. I don't know if they've improved the option since then or not. Given how irritated I was (I had to outright delete Opera to get back useful behavior), I haven't really thought about trying it again.
I was looking for the name and you got it : Firefox 3 is 1) a Safari copycat 2) a complete bloatware.
On PC, Firefox may rule, but on Mac...
On PC, Firefox may rule, but on Mac...
