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Also - some parents go to a movie first to see if it's suitable for their kid. That costs $10 or so and if they approve then they take their kids. There doesn't appear to be a way with Mulan to preview the movie before you pay for everyone to see it.
Watch the trailers, read the reviews, if it seems likely suitable then order it for $30 and have the parents preview it at home and decide whether the kids get to watch it. It’s a gamble, but then so are many things. That money the parents would have spent to see it in the theater would also have been a gamble. Heck, for most movies, you’re paying up front taking the gamble that you’ll enjoy the movie. Also, $10 for both parents to see it? For early in the run of a major motion picture? That seems like a highly unrealistic ticket price of $5/adult. I’m guessing either you’re only sending one parent, or the cost is/was substantially more than $10. So the $10 vs $30 part of the argument doesn’t really hold up.

Frankly, if more people went to movies based upon “from the reviews, this looks to be a really compelling/interesting story”, rather than, “it’s part 7 of the trilogy and/or a remake of an 80’s TV show of course I’ll go”, then we might start getting a higher caliber of movies. Studios try very hard to make movies that they think people will pay to go see.
 
Watch the trailers, read the reviews, if it seems likely suitable then order it for $30 and have the parents preview it at home and decide whether the kids get to watch it. It’s a gamble, but then so are many things. That money the parents would have spent to see it in the theater would also have been a gamble. Heck, for most movies, you’re paying up front taking the gamble that you’ll enjoy the movie. Also, $10 for both parents to see it? For early in the run of a major motion picture? That seems like a highly unrealistic ticket price of $5/adult. I’m guessing either you’re only sending one parent, or the cost is/was substantially more than $10. So the $10 vs $30 part of the argument doesn’t really hold up.

Frankly, if more people went to movies based upon “from the reviews, this looks to be a really compelling/interesting story”, rather than, “it’s part 7 of the trilogy and/or a remake of an 80’s TV show of course I’ll go”, then we might start getting a higher caliber of movies. Studios try very hard to make movies that they think people will pay to go see.

I can make a case for almost any movie that the trailer intentionally mislead audiences about what content was within. Besides, what if I consider coffee drug use and, because the movie doesn't have a drug use label, isn't shown in the trailer, and reviewers didn't mention it that I was mislead.

The whole point of previewing a movie is seeing the entire thing because no one but the parents can decide if content is suitable for their kids.
 
Gawd, I'l pay 30 bucks just to watch Liu Yifei riding a horse… she's one of a kind. Et elle parle français, aussi!
 
You do know that this was originally supposed to be out in theatres in March, with DVD/Blu-Ray scheduled for June, right? That’s a 3 month showing in theatres.
I'm not sure it will be that fast, most in the past don't come out so soon after a new release.

Disney did greatly push up Onward as a exception as it released to theaters on March 6th, but the 4K, BD was May 19th.
 
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I think $30 is fine - I would pay about that to go to the theater with my girlfriend and my home theater system is just about as good anyway...

BUT: If I'm _buying_ a movie, I would rather do it through the Apple Movie store where I have all of the rest of my purchased movies. I don't want to start dividing the movies I've bought between multiple services. I'll wait a couple of months to see if it comes out there. If not, I may just bite the bullet to check it out....
 
I can make a case for almost any movie that the trailer intentionally mislead audiences about what content was within. Besides, what if I consider coffee drug use and, because the movie doesn't have a drug use label, isn't shown in the trailer, and reviewers didn't mention it that I was mislead.

The whole point of previewing a movie is seeing the entire thing because no one but the parents can decide if content is suitable for their kids.
I’m thinking of the trailer more for general tone and somewhat the opposite use you’re thinking of - if any of the trailers (movies generally end up with 2 or 3) shows someone‘s head being blown off, that’s a fairly good indication that that is in the movie (while, obviously, it’s omission from the trailer isn’t a guarantee that it isn’t in the movie).

From my limited experience (I don’t have kids, I do have nieces), commonsensemedia.org is pretty decent about citing specifics of what a movie contains in various categories, for things a parent might not want kids to see (I found them because IMDb links to them for their child appropriateness information). If the kids see coffee use and you didn’t want them to, then it’s time to sit down and have a discussion with them about what they’ve seen.

But you’re presenting it like the parents watching the movie in the theater without the kids, for $10, is the ideal situation (still don’t know where this theater is that shows first-run movies for $5/per ticket for adults). But that’s not ideal, it’s a compromise too - you’re gambling $10 to see if the movie is appropriate for your kids. $30 and previewing it at home is just a different gamble. The ideal would be previewing it for free. There‘s no good way to do that in any case, for a first run movie. If you move away from first-run, you could wait a year, let your local library buy a disc, borrow that disc for free, and have the parents watch it, and then optionally show it to the kids. All for free, and the only thing you lose is instant access.

(The movie industry is all based on tiers of access, where you pay more for access sooner, and they collect a ton of money that first weekend, and in the ensuing weeks, and then they have a long series of tiers to sell to people with different tradeoffs of how much it costs and how long you have to wait - it’s the same in all sorts of industries: buying last year’s model of something a year after it released is generally cheaper than buying this year’s model right when it releases - you’re still getting the same thing you would’ve a year ago, but it’s now cheaper because it isn’t brand new).

So, in this release system (as it pertains to parents previewing movies) I’m seeing a system that was already compromised now offering a different compromise. And they’re not doing it because they want to - if it weren’t for the pandemic, they’d much rather have millions of people in the theaters opening weekend. They’re looking for a way to accommodate the pandemic, that doesn’t involve them going bankrupt, and doesn’t burn bridges with the theater chains.

My point is, any one of these ways, you’re taking a gamble - in your $10 path, you’re gambling $10 to see if the movie is appropriate - it’s just that the options available have had to change due to circumstances beyond the industry’s control.

Personally, the tickets I was buying last year were approaching $20 already ($17 or $18 or so) for my favorite theater. $30 is more, but it’s not orders of magnitude more, especially for something I’m not doing very often. I likely won’t be buying in on Mulan, because the movie doesn’t strike my fancy (not a big fan of remakes), but there’s a handful of other movies that have been waylaid by the pandemic (like Black Widow) that I would absolutely jump at the chance of paying $30 to see day-of, while staying safely at home. I miss seeing movies on the (really) big screen. If this is the best we can do for now, so be it. (And I still laugh at the people outraged because it costs more than one movie theater ticket - they seem not very good at math, thinking the studios would offer it for less than at least the price of 2-3 tickets, since they have no control over how many are watching in your living room.)
 
BUT: If I'm _buying_ a movie, I would rather do it through the Apple Movie store where I have all of the rest of my purchased movies. I don't want to start dividing the movies I've bought between multiple services. I'll wait a couple of months to see if it comes out there.
Oh, it’ll almost certainly come to the iTunes Store eventually, along with all the other distribution channels (rentals, BluRays, HBO, etc.), there’s no reason for them to shut down those other channels and millions of reasons ($$$) to keep them around.

You're not really buying the movie here. You’re buying the digital equivalent of a movie ticket, which allows anyone in your living room to watch the movie as many times as desired, for as long as you subscribe to Disney+. Yes that’s different than most of the circumstances surrounding a normal movie ticket. They’re trying to figure out how to make all of this work, in this new pandemic world.

And, effectively, what you’re buying is access to watch the movie as many times as you want (while subscribed to D+), up until they release it for normal streaming on D+, likely 6-12 months from now (after it’s worked it way through rentals and BluRays and all the other mediums). After it’s released for general streaming, 6-12 months from now, you’ll still have your ticket, but the ticket won’t matter, because anyone with a D+ subscription will be able to stream it for no added cost. So, what you’re really buying is early access to unlimited streaming.
 
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Sooner or later the blow-hards come into this kind of discussion and talk up piracy claiming that studios and top line actors can afford to lose $30 here and there and it should all be cheaper or free. :rolleyes:

This is a sorry excuse for not paying for a product.

Disney, and every other studio out there, is trying to make the best of a poor situation. And films are not all about 'fat cat' execs pocketing a bigger bonus or Tom Cruise taking another $10m home because a film grossed loads more at the box office.

Films and TV shows are not defined by the names above the fold. Look at the credits for Avengers: Infinity War/Endgame. Behind every star above the name of a film on a poster are hundreds if not thousands of typically freelance workers from wardrobe, make-up, carpenters, electricians, extras, VFX artists, stuntmen and women, accountants, camera operators, PR, marketing, runners [the list goes on], who either directly work on the production or help bring it to theatres - right the way down to the cashier who takes your money at the movie theatre.

These are dangerous times for big money films which were already going towards 'safe' bets such as sequels and comic book films in the last decade. Things will only polarise more or - worse - we'll lose more films and shows as belts start to tighten more. If there's a bad winter ahead there's a real danger that we'll run out of big ticket films to watch because nobody will insure pre-production on the next big thing.

There's already a hole emerging in mid budget stuff which isn't a 'sure fire hit' like Marvel movies.

Disney are offering people choice. It's up to consumers if they want to have 'early access' to Mulan or they can wait for a traditional disc to be released. Nobody is forcing anyone to watch a particular film or show.

I'm sure Disney have a hard decision to make for the Marvel Black Widow film later this year which is a PG-13/ UK 12 - will it still be worth $30 early access for Disney Plus subscribers?

All eyes will be on the Christopher Nolan film - Tenet - which is due very soon.
 
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Nothing should cost several hundred $ for an all in one subscription.
I’m all for paying $4.99 rent or buy a movie that just left the theater.
$30 for a straight to stream movie, maybe.
but a yearish after, I'd like x$ a month subscription for HBO, Disney, CBS, Netflix, etc for whatever shows up in the Apple TV app.
Have a section rent/buy now.
Movies
TV
Done
 
Consider it a $30 PVOD that is yours to view as long as you have a Disney + subscription. Its separate from the other contents. Its a work around for movie theaters not being opened by the pandemic. In the rest of the world people will see it in theaters.
Do you think Disney will share some of this with the theaters to help them through or is it just a test to see if they can make more money without them?
 
Its being treated as a PVOD as a alternative to movie theaters not being opened in the states for your location. If you can wait long enough it will be out on 4K BD, or will eventually after a year or more be added as content for all subscribers.
Short version. It’s a cash grab ripoff...
 
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I think $30 is fine - I would pay about that to go to the theater with my girlfriend and my home theater system is just about as good anyway...

BUT: If I'm _buying_ a movie, I would rather do it through the Apple Movie store where I have all of the rest of my purchased movies. I don't want to start dividing the movies I've bought between multiple services. I'll wait a couple of months to see if it comes out there. If not, I may just bite the bullet to check it out....
Lol, sure it is, people who say that must live in an area with 80’s tech theatres.
 
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Do you think Disney will share some of this with the theaters to help them through or is it just a test to see if they can make more money without them?
The dilemma in the states is only some locations have theaters opened. If some chains theaters open later they should be able to play Mulan during its usual stay in theaters. Right now this is purely a let it play in open move theaters and if closed alternatively you can see it via premium access screening via Disney +. Most of the theaters in Canada seem to be open comparably. It's still being released in multiple countries. :)
 
We got this for our kids under COVID lockdown. So we're subscribing already but I have to pay $30 to watch it? Whathehe!!?
 
We got this for our kids under COVID lockdown. So we're subscribing already but I have to pay $30 to watch it? Whathehe!!?
To watch it when it comes out, as you'd otherwise need to do it you wanted to watch it if it came out in theaters and a pandemic wasn't around.
 
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Agree with your comment, but point of interest, this is a PG-13 movie, unlike their previous remakes, and there are suggestions that it’s rather more intense/violent than your typical Disney fare, in which case your 5yo who likes the animated version may be a bit traumatized.

PG-13 is every Disney/Marvel movie. I’ve seen families with kids of all ages watching those movies. So, yeah... family film.
 
Not a chance it will be 6 months. Out by Christmas. Just watch.

You do know that this was originally supposed to be out in theatres in March, with DVD/Blu-Ray scheduled for June, right? That’s a 3 month showing in theatres.
You do know the world has changed since March, right? Along with corporate beancounters strategy.
 
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