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Playstation makes Sony a huge hardware company even if the business model means they also make money of license fees from software devs.

The business model of game consoles, ever since the days of Atari, is to sell the hardware at a loss and make it back on the games. For the last two, and next generation, the console makers have just been buying hardware from IBM, Nvidia and AMD. Telling that both Microsoft and Sony have essentially the same console hardware.

The console is just a means for makers to sell and license games, as well as the money they get from subscriptions (PSN/XBL).

And Sony is huge in the TV market.

10% market share is not huge. Samsung is 3x bigger, LG is consistently bigger.

Sony doesn't make any panels. Sony's display operation, which I don't believe ever made large-format panels, was spun off as Japan Display, which is on the verge of bankruptcy if not due to orders by exactly one customer: Apple.

Sony TVs don't even include Sony chips anymore, they're Mediatek platforms. Sony's essentially buying chips, buying panels, and slapping them into a box.

You mentioned media, but don't forget BluRay is a Sony product too.

Blu-Ray is not a Sony product. It was developed by a consortium of major companies, including Hitachi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, etc. under the Blu-Ray Disc Association. Sony was seen the most prominent member because it threw its movie studios behind the format, but Philips was just as important in development.

In fact, when the standard was being developed, the spec and IP were not managed by Sony, it was managed by Philips.
 
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omg for everyone who doesn't know according to an anonymous source those three characters are named Amy Randall and Mike. ARM. confirmed!!!!
 
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True but wouldn’t you like something a little newer?
Something newer would be nice, but it’s not a necessity. This isn’t like Apple not updating the Mac Pro for six years, this is a product that was last updated a little bit over a year ago, with mostly modern specifications. It’s got a 2019 processor, it’s got one of the best displays on the market, it’s got the ram, the only thing that’s really lacking in is the hard drive.
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So the people annoyed were you really excited by air tags and new Apple TV, air pods studio?
That’s what I’m saying. Those are all pretty minor products. Also, if there was a new iMac, expect it to be at least double the price of the old one. 24 inch at $2000, 27 inch at 4000, something ridiculous like that.
 
Anyone else tired of hearing Tim boast about the best "product pipeline", but has yet to deliver any of the products we've been expecting?

The last Apple product I bought was the iPhone X. Still waiting on a mythical, compelling product to materialize.
 
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Completely new products and much overdue refreshes? Uhh yeah, call me crazy, but I was excited by the prospect of those things..
What exactly is wrong with the current GEN Apple TV? AirPods studio are nice, but not a necessity. Air tags are literally going to be like $30, and are really just another tie in to the ecosystem. These are not huge products.
 
Yeah it’s Tim’s fault a thing called coronavirus delayed mini LED....last time i checked air pods pro are selling great so what didn’t they deliver on exactly?

i swear the moaners here really should consider android if they think apple are failing.
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Why would he be fired when him in charge apple are destroying it with sales from products to services...people here moaned about iOS 13 not being stable enough so if they add less features and make iOS 14 more stable it solves one issue...


Sorry I meant Studio.. is Apple trying not to get my money here???
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Anyone else tired of hearing Tim boast about the best "product pipeline", but has yet to deliver any of the products we've been expecting?


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Don't worry. the software is going to be very innovative this year, you know, like keeping the same layout BUUUUT making the caller screen smaller. It's something never been done before.....on iOS. hold tight!

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You guys go on every year about how you want a redesign, but you’ve got to remember that the majority of people who use iPhones and iPads just want something that they can turn on and immediately know how to use it. If the design changes every couple years, they’re going to get very annoyed. Go back and look at how many complaints there were from regular consumers between iOS 6 and seven.
 
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Sorry I meant Studio.. is Apple trying not to get my money here???
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The only thing i can think of they want all the attention on the software and the new hardware will be announced with new iPhones in September.
 
I don’t even want features, I just want a useable professional machine without compromises, which isn’t going to happen. Give me a MacBook that I don’t need a dongle or adapter to use 95% of peripherals, without a touchbar, with an OS that supports legacy apps.

I guess at least they fixed the keyboard, which every other vendor has managed to not even screw up in the first place.

Hopefully iOS 14 brings something to be excited about, but honestly most new features are hindrances. Haptic Touch is absolutely terrible and I wish it could be disabled, and the OS overall just lacks that polish and efficiency earlier versions had.
if you want a computer that supports legacy ports, legacy software, and has a old design, then get an old computer. Get a 2015 MacBook Pro running Mojave. That’s solves all your problems. Also, you can disable haptic touch in accessibility settings
 
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True but wouldn’t you like something a little newer?

I'm intrigued. You disagreed on my post about Apple waiting until September for the iPhone announcement. Care to tell me why?

When have Apple NOT waited until September for such announcements in recent memory?

Which part of my post was incorrect? I didn't state an opinion, I stated fact.
 
Kuo says there will be new hardware. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Where did he say there would be new hardware “at WWDC?” Everything I’ve heard from him says that the new iMac is coming in Q3 or Q4, the new iPhones and MacBooks are coming in Q4 or Q1 2021, and the new AirPods are coming in Q3. So as far as I can tell, he never said anything was coming this month.
 
Why wouldn't a developers conference include hardware? Especially if they are switching to ARM chips in their Mac lineup

I certainly remember when developers could buy/borrow/lease an unreleased Intel-based Mac for testing. I would imagine they'd do the same with ARM, but I don't recall them doing it with PowerPCs - at least to general level developers. We used to pay $1,500/year to be in the developer program and I can't recall when that stopped - early 90s I think.
 
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On a website that is ran from 9 to 5 if that helps. 😊 he says ARM will be revealed. This post is about nothing new being revealed. It may not be released tomorrow but per Kuo it will be revealed.
 
Sorry I meant Studio.. is Apple trying not to get my money here???
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Mac rumors members when apple releases a product too early: oh my God, it’s so buggy, maybe they should just take their time with their products instead of just rushing them out for money, Tim doesn’t care about quality, he just cares about money.
Mac rumors members when apple announces something a little late: oh my God, are they just trying to get me to hold onto my money? I need my new product right now. I don’t even care if they’re not ready yet, I want them now. Apples such a meh Company now, they rarely update any of their products.
This is why they’re called rumors, none of the stuff that’s been rumored for this event has been confirmed. They could wait three more years before releasing a new iMac, and they’re not doing anything wrong, because they never promised you anything.
 
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I think hardware unveils are still important at the conference because they help to generate excitement and buzz amongst both conference attendees and the public at large about Apple’s platforms, which in turn feed off and from one another.

For Apple to maintain interest from developers they need a steady stream of new and exciting hardware that keeps the platform(s) alive and active. There’s no particular problem with iOS currently, but macOS has had to fight harder and Apple has made both some very poor choices and neglected Mac hardware in recent years.

With the iMacs looking positively retro at this point, it’s not a good look if they don’t address it very soon. It would already have been overdue if they’d updated them at WWDC.
 
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On a website that is ran from 9 to 5 if that helps. 😊 he says ARM will be revealed. This post is about nothing new being revealed. It may not be released tomorrow but per Kuo it will be revealed.
I think you’re confused. They still have plans to announce a transition to ARM.
but that’s it. They’re not gonna announce a new MacBook with a processor, they’re just going to announce that they’re working on the transition for next year. Go back and watch the 2005 developers conference. They didn’t announce any new hardware, but they talked about changing processors. It’s going to be just like that
 
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Maybe Apple realized the hype was too much after the initial leaks and leaked some hype dampening leaks...
Why doesn't Apple just talk about it.. show plans for hardware and let us know timelines.. It's not like they are spoiling a video game.. People stick to computers for many years.. It's never one and done for folks.
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three reasons. Number one, they don’t want to tell competitors of their plans. Number two, they don’t want an airpower situation, where they announce something that never actually comes out.
Three: they don’t want customers knowing about a product that they can’t buy right away. It’s fine for more niche products like the Mac Pro and Pro Display, because the average consumers not gonna buy that. But there is a reason that Apple announces the new iPhones 1 to 2 weeks before they release it. They want customers to be able to buy them immediately. That’s why they don’t announce the iPhone in April, and not release it until October.
 
I don’t even want features, I just want a useable professional machine without compromises, which isn’t going to happen. Give me a MacBook that I don’t need a dongle or adapter to use 95% of peripherals, without a touchbar, with an OS that supports legacy apps.

I guess at least they fixed the keyboard, which every other vendor has managed to not even screw up in the first place.

Hopefully iOS 14 brings something to be excited about, but honestly most new features are hindrances. Haptic Touch is absolutely terrible and I wish it could be disabled, and the OS overall just lacks that polish and efficiency earlier versions had.

It’s cause we lost the visionary, Steve Jobs. Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. He has no vision. He is still living off of Steve’s legacy. At some point Apple will need to make some decisions.
 
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