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As long as we get to see the new macOS I can live without a big hardware release during WWDC. It's not a consumer event to show off the latest iMac(That should be a separate press release to make a bigger splash. Why would dev's care about a iMac unless it's a new Pro model.)

Generally speaking, software developers don’t need Mac Pro or iMac Pro hardware and a dozen cpu cores to do their jobs. That for things like audio and video production. I know many devs with macbooks pros, and many startups with offices filled with iMacs.
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It’s cause we lost the visionary, Steve Jobs. Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. He has no vision. He is still living off of Steve’s legacy. At some point Apple will need to make some decisions.

Im so tired of that old saw about Steve being so great. Yes, he brought the company back from the brink, but how many other trillion dollar companies are out there now? Steve started the company on the path, but he sure as heck wasn’t around for what it’s taken to get where it is now.

This “cult of Steve” does nothing but devalue the work of those who are in the company today making things happen. Steve is dead, and the company had moved on.

Isnt it about time you did, too?
 
I’m not sure what to expect anymore. All of the sudden, there’s no hardware, macOS is rumoured to be a small release (again), we know tvOS is going to be a minor release too. So I guess the option is that iOS 14 is massive and they talk a lot about the ARM transition, although it seems like an iOS update can’t be that big so for them to make whole keynote about it, and also I would think the ARM transition could be discussed more in depth in some of the sessions.
So I really hope there will be some hardware released and I’m still hoping that the new macOS update will be a good one, as it seems like things have been progressing relatively slowly for macOS lately.
 
I remember 2017 was the "Apple must ABSOLUTELY update the iMac at WWDC this year, it's coming, there's no way it won't be a full redesign."

It's 2020.
 
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The remote. I'd like to upgrade to 4K support as I upgraded my TV to 4k just last year. I have the 4th Gen and no way would I get the current gen (5th Gen) that was released almost 3 years ago and still has that same horrific remote.

Apple should sell an optional remote that has discrete buttons in place of the touch pad. They have the previous ATV remote with IR, but I want one with BT like the current remote. At the very least, add discrete skip back/ahead buttons that function as scan buttons if held down. Using the edges of the touch pad for navigation is awful.

Steve is dead, and the company had moved on.

Isnt it about time you did, too?

Is your solution to lower our expectations while Apple still charge a premium for their products?
 
I'm not sure if I am the only one, but I could not care less about software. My iPhone can call, text, receive email, and browse the web. I don't understand Apple's heavy focus on software thinking they have accomplished the impossible. Spoiler alert, it may be half-assed, but Andriod did it first.
It's funny because I'm thinking the exact opposite. Not that I don't care about hardware, don't get me wrong, but my favorite day of the year has been WWDC for quite a few years, not the September Keynote.

Or maybe it's just because it's the beginning of Summer...
 
My Guess:

If they drop the ARM bomb, there's going to be a laptop revealed the same day that runs on it. That's what they did when SJ dropped the Intel bomb — pulled a Intel Mac Mini out of his hat
 
They do. You can still buy the original Apple TV remote for $19.

Also, you can train the Apple TV to listen to input from the buttons on your actual TV remote.
You can. I use an MX-990 from URC to control 2 Apple TV’s. One problem is certain things - like force-quitting stuck apps - still require reaching for the crappy apple tv remote.
 
Maybe they pulled out due to being afraid of the Osborne effect.

Announcing Arm would be what could cause an Osborne effect (though it won’t). Announcing new machines and then selling them is what they do every year. It’s never caused an Osborne effect. Heck, every year you know like clockwork new iphones arrive in the fourth quarter, yet every year sales in the third quarter are reasonable.
 
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this is good news.

apple need to focus on their Software mess.

remember Sony in the 90’s? Amazing hardware. Junk software. and Now they are a has been except for the PlayStation. Lost computing. Lost mobile. Lost electronics.

Apple needs to step up its software game.

As someone who's used Apple Mac's and iPhones for over a decade I would say their software ecosystem is pretty impressive and highly polished. I do not think their software is junk. Perfect? No, but pretty dam good.

Their iMac lineup is in sore need of an update and their Mac devices in general need improvements with better FaceTime cameras, WiFi 6 and improved Siri but overall I think Apple's lineup is strong.

I've been building Windows PC's and servers for 17 years, you want to see want broken software looks like, just install the newest version of Windows 10 whenever Microsoft releases it if you want to see software with issues.
 
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My Guess:

If they drop the ARM bomb, there's going to be a laptop revealed the same day that runs on it. That's what they did when SJ dropped the Intel bomb — pulled a Intel Mac Mini out of his hat
Huh? No.

The intel transition was announced at WWDC in June 2005 and there was no hardware except for a simple Pentium 4 PC screwed into Power Mac G5 case, that developers could rent for a thousand bucks.

The first hardware release was the following January, and it was a 15" MacBook Pro and an iMac, both with Core 2 Duo processors, and both looked exactly the same on the outside as their PPC predecessors.
 
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Why wouldn't a developers conference include hardware? Especially if they are switching to ARM chips in their Mac lineup

It's mostly pointless for developers to worry about an architectural switch. Compiler backends have already taken care of it. LLVM is especially good at it. Even if some developers are using a language whose compiler doesn't target ARM (v8?) architectures, it's out of their control anyway.
 
Apple should sell an optional remote that has discrete buttons in place of the touch pad. They have the previous ATV remote with IR, but I want one with BT like the current remote. At the very least, add discrete skip back/ahead buttons that function as scan buttons if held down. Using the edges of the touch pad for navigation is awful.



Is your solution to lower our expectations while Apple still charge a premium for their products?

Moaning about Steve being gone surely isn’t going to change anything. He did have vision, and he did great things. But he’s gone. Since he’s been gone the company has posted impressive results without him. So it stands to reason that they’ve been doing something right. Otherwise they wouldn’t be worth so much as a company. Companies don’t make money if they don’t have happy customers.

Don’t get me wrong, I think they have a lot of things that need to be improved. But laying this all on Steve being gone with the results they’ve had shows that people can’t focus on what’s really making things happen there.
 
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Anyone else tired of hearing Tim boast about the best "product pipeline", but has yet to deliver any of the products we've been expecting?
Two great things recently came out of the pipeline: iPhone SE and Airpods Pro. And in the pipeline, there is still ARM Macs, Airpods Studio Headphones, new iPhones, iPads, and Watches, and likely AirTags.
 
Still think we might see an unveiling of the rumored 24" ARM iMac (and maybe a 13/14" ARM MacBook Pro), but no consumer availability dates (I expect both will first launch to developers when they do start shipping).

No, they might announce an ARM Mac future, because developers need to work on that; but they are very unlikely to show specific products, without a delivery date, because that would depress sales of existing products. The only time they normally show new HW without a delivery date is when they are opening an entirely new product category, or where the current product offerings in a category are so weak or obsolete that current sales are insignificant.
 
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