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Music Industry Fears Apple and is also Subject to iTunes Popularity Rankings

kalafalas said:
you obviously know nothing about audio formats. Without drm, anything that supports AAC can play the song, and if not it's one click away from being MP3. The reason apple uses aac is because it's much higher quality. It's not that it can only by played on iPods, it's that only iPods support a good format, other playesr can if they want (EX: the zune plays aac INCLUDING from the store now that drm went away.)
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Until you can plug in a competing MP3 player into iTunes and it syncs with no problems, there is still that exclusivity that Apple employs. You can also plug almost any non-iPod mp3 player into anything not named iTunes and it will sync in most cases. Is that the best policy to exclude any other mp3 player from working on iTunes? Probably. The music industry still believes that suscription is the way to go....idiots.
 
Apple is an interesting company. I don't think I can name any company that is unique as them. To think it all started by 2 kids in someone's garage not that long ago.
 
Good, I trust Apple far more than I trust RIAA or the major labels. I love seeing the latter two, really one and the same, getting hoisted by their own petard. The reality is they're so old world and not really needed anymore. Like the dinosaurs they are they'll die out in time.
 
Ugg said:
Apple doesn't censor what it sells.
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Yes they do. Go into iTunes and do a search for the song Don't Lie by the Black Eyed Peas. It doesn't give you an option to purchase a clean or explicit version, and the song blanks out the f word. "******* with your heart like I was the predator"
 
ghostface147 said:
Until you can plug in a competing MP3 player into iTunes and it syncs with no problems, there is still that exclusivity that Apple employs.
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I already do. In fact, both of the non-Apple MP3 players I have were made pre-iTunes and pre-iPod yet they sync perfectly fine with iTunes. No, they don't support some of the advanced features supported on an iPod but their firmware was made long before those features existed. Apple is very good about having an open policy. We also have two (used to be three) iPods in our family so I know how well those work too.
 
kalafalas said:
NOT TRUE

you obviously know nothing about audio formats. Without drm, anything that supports AAC can play the song, and if not it's one click away from being MP3. The reason apple uses aac is because it's much higher quality. It's not that it can only by played on iPods, it's that only iPods support a good format, other playesr can if they want (EX: the zune plays aac INCLUDING from the store now that drm went away.)
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And you obviously know nothing about reading comprehension. I stated that the DRM prevents you from using content purchaed on iTunes on any other device. This has not changed. The only thing that changed is less things now have DRM.

I know that AAC can be played on any player that supports it, but if you think that every song in the iTunes store is DRM free right now, you need to stop reading the press releases from Apple and actaully search the store.

The fact is that most songs are now DRM free, but they all are not DRM free. Apple claims they will be, but the problem remains until there is not one song with DRM on the store. And then you have to pay again to make them DRM-free, which is a major ripoff.

EDIT: And as was stated above, how do I synch a non-iPod with iTunes? Someone said they do it, but didn't name the players and didn't say how they do it. Apple wants to sell iPods. They are not going to allow another player to synch with iTunes, DRM or not.

Other than that, you are spot on.
 
talkingfuture said:
The fact that Apple has put fear into the record companies amuses me greatly.
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This just shows how strong and innovative Apple is, and how obtuse music labels' business models are...Apple IS a game changer in the industry and a leader for taking on such innovations.

Before the iTMS, pretty much nobody believed in legal downloads, or even online music stores for that matter;

Before the iPhone, NO ONE thought of mass-production of multitouch smartphones or advanced apps in those devices...

SJ, go get a good rest and come back before Apple's competitors disappear in no time...they can't live without copying you...APPLE, THE BIGGEST AND MOST INFLUENTIAL CONSUMER IT COMPANY IN THE WORLD! GO APPLE!
 
i find it amazing how apple when from their deathbed before the imac and the ipod to the scourge of the music industry. hopefully they can do the same thing with movies!!

i think apple could start rolling out itunes as a record label of itself. it has proven effective enough as a distributor, why not start getting the rights of the music itself as well, lock up new and upcoming artsists and make a sh*tton of money for themselves and the artists. physical musical media is dead. next up: movies.
 
Stately said:
...now we have to do something about these disgusting phone companies. Lets go Apple, build some towers and charge your customers fair prices....
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How can anyone use "Apple" and "Fair Price" in the same sentence and expect to be taken seriously?
 
ghostface147 said:
Yes they do. Go into iTunes and do a search for the song Don't Lie by the Black Eyed Peas. It doesn't give you an option to purchase a clean or explicit version, and the song blanks out the f word. "******* with your heart like I was the predator"
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Wrong kind of censor.

As you state they offer both versions anyway, one of children and one for adults.
 
RIM, Microsoft, Nokia, Moto, Palm, etc., and now the record labels.

Anyone crossing paths with Apple will soon learn that
Apple is the leader in innovation and forward looking models,
as well as design and the hard to capture "kewl" factor.
Submit or die! ;)

Way to go Apple!!
 
fishmoose said:
P.S what ever happend to The Beatles in iTunes store, have Apple given up on that one? I would love to have it there! I already have all the CD's and some LP's but anyway..
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Looks like everything by Paul McCartney is on iTunes, so the problem wouldn't be with Apple, nor with McCartney, but somewhere else.
 
pubwvj said:
I already do. In fact, both of the non-Apple MP3 players I have were made pre-iTunes and pre-iPod yet they sync perfectly fine with iTunes. No, they don't support some of the advanced features supported on an iPod but their firmware was made long before those features existed. Apple is very good about having an open policy. We also have two (used to be three) iPods in our family so I know how well those work too.
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I agree!
It is amazing to me how few people know this.
iTunes preceded the iPod and I, as well, still have old mp3 players that sync
to iTunes.
 
I think it's funny because ever since radio became popular, record labels have been able to "force" people (to an extent) to listen to music they wanted on the top 40 charts or whatever. Thanks to iTunes, personal internet radio stations such as Slacker and Pandora, the record labels have less of a grip on who hears what music when. Truly talented musical artists FTW!!;)
 
carfac said:
How can anyone use "Apple" and "Fair Price" in the same sentence and expect to be taken seriously?
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Very easily. I know I can use them far easier in the same sentence than record label and fair price or phone company and fair price. Not to mention, I'm going on the fact that Apple usually takes into consideration what their consumers think. I can even go as far as to say they sometimes take care of their consumers at times. Who on earth would return 100 - 200 dollars to their customers because the release of their first product and the products second release seemed to close and the first customers who were considered loyal fans of Apple were reimbursed just because they felt gypped. Another company would have laughed and told the customer that it was their problem. So when I look at it from those standpoints, I rather choose Apple.
 
FU EMI
FU Sony
FU Universal
FU Vivendi
FU Warner

You have just been iTeabagged. Apple will now pet you like a bitch.

Movie studios, you're next.
 
akac said:
But they do. And they have for a long time. Plenty of people have done it for years with MP3s in iTunes.
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Please name one. I am asking seriously because I know of none. And this is without any hacks or additional software? And can you name one that works on a Mac?

There are now at least 3 posts that mention this, but nobody has named one. And all say they are "old" are there any modern ones that I can buy new today that will synch with iTunes?

Seriously, I'd love to have choice in this area. But I need to see an mp3 player that I can buy new, plug it in to my Mac and have it synch all my non-DRM content from iTunes to the device.

Unless this is possible, I think it is misleading to say Apple has "always been open in this area."
 
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