Now if they could only do the same to the movie industry. The insane level of DRM there is hampering the adoption of digital movies.
A good point well made.
Now if they could only do the same to the movie industry. The insane level of DRM there is hampering the adoption of digital movies.
Until you can plug in a competing MP3 player into iTunes and it syncs with no problems, there is still that exclusivity that Apple employs....
I guess I don't understand the point you are trying to make then. Are you trying to say that Creative could still support OS X and still synch with iTunes if they wanted to? They purposely decided not to do this?...You seem to think it is the device manufacturer's fault this is the case. I do not agree with that. And thinking Apple is not biased against any other players is, quite frankly, naive.
In most cases it is the fault of manufacturers. Rather than stick to a standard system for syncing media to your device they favour using poorly made software designed by them that they expect you to use as your music player on your computer as well. If this software is released for windows only then the device is labelled as non OS X compatible. (sony are the worst for this imo).
At least they still give you the option of mass storage mode, allowing you to just drag/drop files/playlists directly from itunes/finder/explorer onto the device.
I trust Apple as much as a record label. They are really only interested in making money. There is no 'love of music' going on. I continue to buy music on CD, and see that as the only useful format.
All the itunes people are getting is a sonically second rate version of something an artist has worked hard to make sound as good as it can. You then have to buy something like an ipod to get the damn thing to work. Strangely Apple make those, and also make money out of those too.
The poor artist gets screwed in the process too. Apple were bitching about not paying greater royalties to artist not long ago.
Truly open formats would not tie you to a device. Apple have profitted from DRM by a different name, but only allowing purchased itunes content to work on an ipod.
Personally, I hope the itunes store sinks quicker than it took to gain it's monopoly.
Funny, my purchased tracks seem to play just fine in iTunes or if I burn them to CD.You then have to buy something like an ipod to get the damn thing to work.
it's amazing how apple in < 10 years went from a nobody to the king of the U.S. music industry that everyone fears.
Sony is the company that sold mini disc players (MD) with line-in and USB-ports and blocked copying from MDs to PC (how many artists were released on MD, 2?) by reason of "we need to protect our artists". Obviously Sonys artists are so awful (*sarcastic, I in fact like several*) that they need to be protected from other peoples demos.
Seriously, for years now I'm yet to see them ever being on the consumers side. They even (in Japan) promised lots of upcoming games compatible with the PS2 HDD and had a huge drive TWO WEEKS before announcing that they would drop HDD support in the then upcoming smaller PS2.
Steve Jobs is said to be a "real mean customer" when he wants to, but imho whatever it was Sony most likely had it coming.
The music industry and the movie industry are both scared of Apple. Now that Apple got what they wanted from the music industry, they need to start negotiating with the movie industry to get more. Why the heck is Hulu allowed to show free ad-supported shows and movies and Apple isn't? Think about how huge iTunes would be if you could get movies/tv free with Ads. Consumers would then have the ultimate choice in a medium that they already are used to. It's retarded that NBC posts full versions of their shows on their site for free but charges for them to be on iTunes. Consumers shouldn't have to go to a million sites to watch the shows they want...they should be able to go to iTunes and get everything they want...the way they want it. If they want to "own" the show/movie...fine then buy it. If they want to rent it..fine do that too. If you want to have a free ad-supported show put on your iPhone/iPod they should be able to do that also. Apple is so close...they need to do some more hard negotiating and make this idea happen. If Hulu can do it...so can Apple...except better.![]()
it's amazing how apple in < 10 years went from a nobody to the king of the U.S. music industry that everyone fears.
Charlie Walk obviously doesn't know anything. He thinks kids buy music!"Whether the industry likes it or not, the iTunes chart showing the most popular songs in America is a major influencer of how kids today discover and communicate with their friends what kind of music they like," said Charlie Walk, the former president of Epic Records, a unit of Sony Music.
Yet their recent announcement of removing DRM negates your arguement. digital downloads are useful for people who like to take their music on the go, do not use a cd player at home or do not have the space to store alot of physical boxes.
The iTunes store is also hardly a monopoly as there are a variety of digital music stores available for people to choose from.
Funny, my purchased tracks seem to play just fine in iTunes or if I burn them to CD.![]()
This had to be stressing Steve out... I mean, come on, that heated on Christmas Eve?
Until you can plug in a competing MP3 player into iTunes and it syncs with no problems, there is still that exclusivity that Apple employs. You can also plug almost any non-iPod mp3 player into anything not named iTunes and it will sync in most cases. Is that the best policy to exclude any other mp3 player from working on iTunes? Probably. The music industry still believes that suscription is the way to go....idiots.
Yes they do. Go into iTunes and do a search for the song Don't Lie by the Black Eyed Peas. It doesn't give you an option to purchase a clean or explicit version, and the song blanks out the f word. "******* with your heart like I was the predator"
And you obviously know nothing about reading comprehension. I stated that the DRM prevents you from using content purchaed on iTunes on any other device. This has not changed. The only thing that changed is less things now have DRM.
I know that AAC can be played on any player that supports it, but if you think that every song in the iTunes store is DRM free right now, you need to stop reading the press releases from Apple and actaully search the store.
The fact is that most songs are now DRM free, but they all are not DRM free. Apple claims they will be, but the problem remains until there is not one song with DRM on the store. And then you have to pay again to make them DRM-free, which is a major ripoff.
EDIT: And as was stated above, how do I synch a non-iPod with iTunes? Someone said they do it, but didn't name the players and didn't say how they do it. Apple wants to sell iPods. They are not going to allow another player to synch with iTunes, DRM or not.
Other than that, you are spot on.
Apple's under no requirement to make its competitors devices work with their software, rather companies like Creative and iRiver should be in the business of making their players work with iTunes. If Apple was intentionally breaking this compatibility that would be a different set of problems, but Apple isn't required to help the competition develop their devices.
I guess I don't understand the point you are trying to make then. Are you trying to say that Creative could still support OS X and still synch with iTunes if they wanted to? They purposely decided not to do this?
Is it not just as likely that only old players still work because Apple changed iTunes not to allow any other model to work and only grandfathered in these models because they existed before iTunes? In fact, would that be the more likely scenario since Apple is in the business of selling iPods?
Creative doesn't currently support OS X.
Rio players do, but they are ridiculously outdated assuming you can find one and they still tout "Plays for Sure".
So the answer is that you can't really get a non-iPod that works with iTunes out-of-the box anymore, and you have not been able to for a while.
You seem to think it is the device manufacturer's fault this is the case. I do not agree with that. And thinking Apple is not biased against any other players is, quite frankly, naive.
FU EMI
FU Sony
FU Universal
FU Vivendi
FU Warner
You have just been iTeabagged. Apple will now pet you like a bitch.
Movie studios, you're next.