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my mbp 40f cooler!
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dalous said:
Sweet. Thanks for that link. I've never seen that before. I'm not quite sure it does exactly what I'm planning mine to do, but it doesn't look very different. I'm planning mine to be a little more automatic, and a little more preset...more like something an average user could just turn on & not have to configure.
Okay, so can anyone tell me which of these GUI fanControls are better? Or what their differences are?
http://www.lobotomo.com/products/FanControl/index.html
http://81.169.182.62/~eidac/software/page5/page5.html
http://www.lobotomo.com/products/FanControl/index.html
http://81.169.182.62/~eidac/software/page5/page5.html
n8236 said:Okay, so can anyone tell me which of these GUI fanControls are better? Or what their differences are?
http://www.lobotomo.com/products/FanControl/index.html
http://81.169.182.62/~eidac/software/page5/page5.html
The first one. I've used both. The second one you linked to allowed my laptop to overheat while neither it, nor the operating system did anything to increase the fan speed above 3000rpm after it reached 200F. The first one has been adjusting my fan speed by increments of 1 constatly to keep the temperature at my preferred level. I think I'm actually going to ditch my project because I think this software is flawless now that I've been using it for a couple hours.
smcFanControl
smcFanControl looks like a great app. Unfortunately when I launch the app, fan #1 shows no activity regardless of where I set the speed. Does this mean this fan no longer is working or does it only turn on when the temp reaches a certain level? Once again, even using miniStat2 v.1.86, my temp continues to read 72 F regardless of how hot the computer feels to touch. Are these signs that I need to get AppleCare to fix this? Thanks for the help.
smcFanControl looks like a great app. Unfortunately when I launch the app, fan #1 shows no activity regardless of where I set the speed. Does this mean this fan no longer is working or does it only turn on when the temp reaches a certain level? Once again, even using miniStat2 v.1.86, my temp continues to read 72 F regardless of how hot the computer feels to touch. Are these signs that I need to get AppleCare to fix this? Thanks for the help.
Absolutely amazing. I'm using Fan control from:
http://www.lobotomo.com/products/FanControl/index.html
This seems to have solved all of the issues. Both fans are now working and the temp is reading correctly.
Thank you to Rokem and everyone else who have contributed to these projects. All of a sudden I can't think of any negatives having to do with my 17" MacBook Pro.
Thanks again.
http://www.lobotomo.com/products/FanControl/index.html
This seems to have solved all of the issues. Both fans are now working and the temp is reading correctly.
Thank you to Rokem and everyone else who have contributed to these projects. All of a sudden I can't think of any negatives having to do with my 17" MacBook Pro.
Thanks again.
I also have to repeat my thanks for everyone involved. I agree that Fan Control is now the best out of the lot, and it's a great app - but one which in my opinion should have shipped with the MBP. How they can spend 6 months not addressing this issue where the machines can actually cause minor burns and leaving the users to do it is ridiculous.
If you have fan noise coming from the right side like I do and intend on having it checked out at the Apple Store, make sure to remove it from system preferences beforehand. Otherwise the Genius will not acknowledge the problem and blame you instead.
n8236 said:
You have it too? But yes... obvious thing to forget to remove, easily done though
What I've done in all the (rather frequent this year) cases that I've had to send Macs back to Applecare is to back it up and re-install it. I then do the same when it comes back. I'm paranoid that way.
Such BS, so i finally made the call to get another of my issues fixed while explaining to the specialist that my right fan's bearings are going because compared to the left, which is the sound of fans whirling along, the right has a distinguished ticking sound at any rpm.
The specialist, Chris, insists that it is "normal" behavior. So I tell him again that the sound is really bothersome and obnoxious. Again, he refers to it as "normal" behavior. He noted on the dispatch work order to have the tech look at it, but I'm certainly calling tomorrow and playing the video clip for the rep so he/she can note it for replacement, and nothing less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjmYiUdybI
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Anyways, back on topic. The FanControl program works great, but when I removed it and tried SmcFanControl, both fans tend to be sync'ed when told not to. Also, I had to keep clicking the "apply" button for it to go up in rpm (still sync'ed). Is anyone else having this issue? Because of my right fan noise, I want to isolate the right fan itself, but the smc program isn't letting me.
The specialist, Chris, insists that it is "normal" behavior. So I tell him again that the sound is really bothersome and obnoxious. Again, he refers to it as "normal" behavior. He noted on the dispatch work order to have the tech look at it, but I'm certainly calling tomorrow and playing the video clip for the rep so he/she can note it for replacement, and nothing less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjmYiUdybI
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Anyways, back on topic. The FanControl program works great, but when I removed it and tried SmcFanControl, both fans tend to be sync'ed when told not to. Also, I had to keep clicking the "apply" button for it to go up in rpm (still sync'ed). Is anyone else having this issue? Because of my right fan noise, I want to isolate the right fan itself, but the smc program isn't letting me.
timmer said:
For anyone interested in the PowerPC side of things, I have recompiled the AppleFan kext and changed the hard-coded values to all a plus 5 degrees. Still no luck, having flushed the cache, touched the kext and Extensions dir and rebooted. I'm just a budding coder, but I believe there is something else to this. It doesn't make sense why the fan comes on significantly sooner than a hysteresis temp of the default 55 C, let alone the higher values I've coded in.
Any suggestions? I'm just now starting to understand how the kexts load - in this case I understand AppleFan to provide the driver information to the IO/I2C system to be used by the Sensor and/or Thermal drivers that stay loaded in the system. Out of curiosity, what would happen if one wiped the cache and then simply removed AppleFan to keep it from getting loaded? Chaos?
timmer said:
I never dug too deep into the editing of the kext files since smc seems to be the short answer for the mbp. But there was (for mbp anyway) another file called appleblower.kext that I think he altered as well in the original text of the thread?
timmer said:
I wish I could make my PB fan come on before 60C
changes don't seem to take effect Jarland said:
yes, but i don't understand what the values of this actually mean. though since they were lowered to keep the fans on, it would stand to reason that they could increase for the opposite effect. it's interesting, though, how different the values are between PCI, Uni or Dual-processor configurations.
Has anyone been able to uninstall Fan Control properly?
Website says
Only reason why i want to uninstall it is I think its affect the performance slightly.
I did a SuperPi calc from this thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/244537/
And my numbers are terrible..
Any ideas?
Website says
Only reason why i want to uninstall it is I think its affect the performance slightly.
I did a SuperPi calc from this thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/244537/
And my numbers are terrible..
Any ideas?
ericssonboi said:
I haven't tried to uninstall it yet. But I tried the same test, and I got these results:
End of calculation. Time= 104.594 Sec.
End of data output. Time= 0.635 Sec.
Total calculation(I/O) time= 105.229( 14.755) Sec.
Doesn't seem too bad based on the current responses. I'm running the 15" MBP pretty much base model. So my first thought is that FanControl isn't the problem...but it could still be. If it's of any value, I do notice that anytime I am controlling my fan speed on my own, the processor remains at the highest clock speed (2.17GHz according to CoreDuoTemp), whereas if I leave it at factory settings, the clock speed only jumps up when it needs to.
smcFanControl App
Y'all might be interested in this app, it gives a nice GUI for controlling the fans, and works with a variety of Mac models (read the website to see how wide a variety...i.e. if PPC models are included.) It shows temp in C or F, current fan speed for each of the two fans (in my case) and a slider to control the minimum speed from 1000rpm (Apple default) - 6000 rpm. Works great on my MBP. The downside is running another app, whereas the solution discussed here changes the system behavior with little/no overhead (aside from energy to run the fans, alas.)
http://www.conscius.de/~eidac/index.html
YMMV,
cheers,
JP
Y'all might be interested in this app, it gives a nice GUI for controlling the fans, and works with a variety of Mac models (read the website to see how wide a variety...i.e. if PPC models are included.) It shows temp in C or F, current fan speed for each of the two fans (in my case) and a slider to control the minimum speed from 1000rpm (Apple default) - 6000 rpm. Works great on my MBP. The downside is running another app, whereas the solution discussed here changes the system behavior with little/no overhead (aside from energy to run the fans, alas.)
http://www.conscius.de/~eidac/index.html
YMMV,
cheers,
JP
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just browsing the series of tubes known as the net and cam across a the site appledefects.com. I read a few of the post on the front page and found myself twice. It just made my day.
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NICE!!!!
"nothing happened on G4 powerbook 1.5ghz 12""
Rokem...i gave it a go, but there was no immediate change in temp.
I skipped "part 1"..no dual blower...and did the applefan changes on the "info.plist"...using the highest number. I didnt bump it above that.
How long do you think before you see a change in temp? Nickelback?
Rokem...i gave it a go, but there was no immediate change in temp.
I skipped "part 1"..no dual blower...and did the applefan changes on the "info.plist"...using the highest number. I didnt bump it above that.
How long do you think before you see a change in temp? Nickelback?
I have been using Fan Control for the past month or so and have noticed it decreases battery life drastically. I lose about 30 mis of life w/ base fan rpms at 1600 w/ lower and higher thresholds on 57 and 80* Celsius.
Can anyone else report their battery life numbers, thanks.
Can anyone else report their battery life numbers, thanks.
ohh yah, got some bad news for you for my original idea and settings. well It for some reason worked on my mbp and some others, but in some cases my original settings actually raised the temp. I stopped messing around with that after the smc control came out but you might want to try setting the values to 0 including the setting fan-hysteresis-temp to 0. Go ahead and change appleblower settings that you can just don't add dual blower.
I have noticed a bit 15-20mins. The only reason I can think of is the intel speedstep technology gets a bit screwed up and hardly ever lowers the speed of the processor. Normally It should slow down the processor but it doesn't for some reason any more.
I've been using Fan Control for the last few weeks, and although it is awesome, it shows that only my left fan is working... my right fan shows -1 RPM. What's wrong?