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I really wish the iPhone UI was similar to the Pre's. iPhone UI is kinda boring looking and rather simple. When I jailbroke my iPhone, the first thing I did was change the AT&T logo on the taskbar to that new one with color.
 
Funny that, seeing as both browsers use the same webkit software ;)

Nokia do indeed use Apple's Webkit to rasterize web-pages as does the iPhone.

But that does not mean the browser experience is in any way comparable. Any side-by side comparison shows the Nokia experience to be clunky and ugly in comparison.

As I said before, Nokia as no excuse for how bad their browsing experience is.

C.
 
Nokia is too worried about the next 10MP camera they can include in their phones, lol. Nokia, will do best making cameras.
 
Do you seriously think that between the time the Pre was announced (February) and 3.0 was announced (March) Apple developed a whole new OS? Yeah, that's likely... :rolleyes:

Ahh no I don't think that. But I don't think it is a whole new OS

What I do think is with the new 4g around the corner and new hardware coming out, the coding needed to support both probably is worthy of the 3.0 name.

I woud imagine thereason for the new dev pack is to ensure all their new functions operate well together.
 
I really wish the iPhone UI was similar to the Pre's. iPhone UI is kinda boring looking and rather simple. When I jailbroke my iPhone, the first thing I did was change the AT&T logo on the taskbar to that new one with color.

it's probably boring cause it's been out almost identical for 2 years. The Pre's Web OS sounds new.. let's see in a couple of years, shall we?:)
In the mean time, it's also rumored for 3.0 to have a new springboard and maybe a different dock.
 
We definitely need a new springboard or something. At least add some color. I know I'm not the only one who's sick of that black. At least let us change the background (without jailbreaking our phones).
 
We definitely need a new springboard or something. At least add some color. I know I'm not the only one who's sick of that black. At least let us change the background (without jailbreaking our phones).

I actually like the black but hated the dock area.

Some like what I did to my phone others don't but its my phone:D
 

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Do you seriously think that between the time the Pre was announced (February) and 3.0 was announced (March) Apple developed a whole new OS? Yeah, that's likely... :rolleyes:

I wonder, I guess Apple decided to start working on 3.0 once the Pre was announced, wha a bunch of jokers Apple are.
 
I agree with the OP that Apple should take a look at what jailbreak developers are doing, and implement some of their programs... things like Intelliscreen, statusnotifier, SBsettings... things that really improve the usefulness of the iPhone. They do it for OS X software, so why not for the iPhone.
 
I agree with the OP that Apple should take a look at what jailbreak developers are doing, and implement some of their programs... things like Intelliscreen, statusnotifier, SBsettings... things that really improve the usefulness of the iPhone. They do it for OS X software, so why not for the iPhone.

the thing is not many care about these functions, which would obviously make the UI/Phone less responsive & more prone to crashing and overall slower, the Settings section is already a mess, with a better processor and more ram it would make more sense, but the 2g and current 3g owners would be pissed, I'm sure.
 
Nokia do indeed use Apple's Webkit to rasterize web-pages as does the iPhone.

But that does not mean the browser experience is in any way comparable. Any side-by side comparison shows the Nokia experience to be clunky and ugly in comparison.

As I said before, Nokia as no excuse for how bad their browsing experience is.

C.

I really cannot see where you're coming from. The only thing that makes the iPhone browsing experience better than the Nokia browsing experience on the 5800 is that the iPhone has a capacitive touch screen, which is much more responsive - you don't have to be quite as precise when hitting buttons, etc.
 
i absolutely love the pre's notification system. i hate how if i get a sms while i'm browsing or what-not i have to completely close safari..... open sms..... reply to the text.... close sms..... open safari....... and if i didn't have enough free ram i'd have to re-load the page i was already at. the sand-box thing is getting pretty old.

and yes, i completely agree that the vast majority of features they're touting as "new" this year are things it should have had since the beginning
 
I agree with the OP that Apple should take a look at what jailbreak developers are doing, and implement some of their programs... things like Intelliscreen, statusnotifier, SBsettings... things that really improve the usefulness of the iPhone. They do it for OS X software, so why not for the iPhone.

well when you start adding extensions one mis-written piece of code can crash the whole OS as i'm sure you're familiar with.

with that being said intelliscreen is pretty cool and i use SBSettings all the itme
 
the thing is not many care about these functions, which would obviously make the UI/Phone less responsive & more prone to crashing and overall slower, the Settings section is already a mess, with a better processor and more ram it would make more sense, but the 2g and current 3g owners would be pissed, I'm sure.
So Apple shouldn't add any more functions because they might slow down the phone? That seems a bit back asswards. I run those JB programs without any significant slowdown or crashing, there's no reason why Apple couldn't make them native. There are so many innovative 3rd party programs out there, but Apple ignores them and pumps out updated calculator apps and new 3G icons.
 
So Apple shouldn't add any more functions because they might slow down the phone? That seems a bit back asswards. I run those JB programs without any significant slowdown or crashing, there's no reason why Apple couldn't make them native. There are so many innovative 3rd party programs out there, but Apple ignores them and pumps out updated calculator apps and new 3G icons.

I'm saying the OS will be more complex when Apple won't care about supporting older hardware. Until then, just JB if it satisfies your needs and it doesn't slow it down.
 
i absolutely love the pre's notification system. i hate how if i get a sms while i'm browsing or what-not i have to completely close safari..... open sms..... reply to the text.... close sms..... open safari....... and if i didn't have enough free ram i'd have to re-load the page i was already at. the sand-box thing is getting pretty old.

and yes, i completely agree that the vast majority of features they're touting as "new" this year are things it should have had since the beginning

Yeah and I'm sure all the features they'll add to future iphones could have been added since the beginning.
 
I agree with the OP that Apple should take a look at what jailbreak developers are doing, and implement some of their programs... things like Intelliscreen, statusnotifier, SBsettings... things that really improve the usefulness of the iPhone. They do it for OS X software, so why not for the iPhone.

i couldn't agree with you more.
 
I'm saying the OS will be more complex when Apple won't care about supporting older hardware. Until then, just JB if it satisfies your needs and it doesn't slow it down.
Clearly the current hardware is capable of supporting these programs. I'm saying they shouldn't be relegated to being JB hacks, they should be made native and implemented into the OS because they are genuinely useful and really improve the UI experience (obviously there should be settings so people who really don't want it can turn it off). There's no reason why you should have to jailbreak and install a 3rd party app to get icons in the status bar showing if you have new email, or to get a list of your iCal events on the lockscreen. Those are basic basic usability functions that should be native to the OS.
 
I think 3.0 will have a bunch of features that weren't in the beta including a new lock screen with all those updates.

I remember a while back Gizmodo had a patent from Apple on a lock screen with those exact stats. So i'm sure it's coming.
 
I think 3.0 will have a bunch of features that weren't in the beta including a new lock screen with all those updates.

I remember a while back Gizmodo had a patent from Apple on a lock screen with those exact stats. So i'm sure it's coming.

Apple have a few patents with jailbroken iPhones.
 
If the iPhone has been such a software failure, as this thread in a way pertains it to be then why has it changed the face of the mobile industry?

I believe Apple couldn't have executed the iPhone any better than they did and now they are gradually improving on it. People on here expect them to be able to trowel on the features and not end up with a mess. Its just plain silly.
 
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