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*My* Top 10 Reasons to NOT Jailbreak
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Please don't descend into hurling personal assaults at others just because they have a differing opinion than you do.
It's wonderful forum, lets keep it that way.
We all get our own kick out of this forum, I know mine, but I still don't get yours.
Your sole purpose on this forum is to repeat "jailbreak cause lag", and I thought you would lose interest by 100th post of the same repetitive and pointless comment.
The point of the thread was so the OP could validate his own opinions in a public forum. He is obviously still slighty conflicted about jailbreaking.
Funny thread. It's hilarious reading all the comments... 
Why can't people have their own opinions and not be attacked for doing so? Those people also shouldn't attack other people opinions... And why do people then always have to have these continuous arguments?
Why can't people have their own opinions and not be attacked for doing so? Those people also shouldn't attack other people opinions... And why do people then always have to have these continuous arguments?
Didn't take me up on my offer Mike? That's a shame.
Doesn't matter, as I think I'm more judicious in these matters than you are.
Just to re-interate so that the thread isn't totally derailed by the same few.
You do make excellent points TheSpaz in a well rounded post. It's your device and your using it as you wish.
I've been doing a lot of Googling over the last week or so and the amount of literature that substantiates the lag that becomes apparant in jailbroken iPhones supports your view regardless of what the naysayers may bleat. It's out there on the www for anyone to read.
Jailbreaking doesn't cause lag and bugginess, it's what you install after jailbreaking that does. I jailbroke, not because I wanted to record video, but because I wanted to add extra functionality like background apps and status notifications and other plugins that people rave about. The fact of the matter is, I like having a faster phone than having some icons in the status bar. With that said, there was no logical reason for me to stay jailbroken.
There's two types of iPhones out there:
Jail and Jail *broken* (speaks for itself)
There's two types of iPhones out there:
Jail and Jail *broken* (speaks for itself)
Look at my original list again. The lag is only ONE thing on the list and I was even careful about how I phrased it. I said CERTAIN apps cause lag... I didn't say Jailbreaking causes the lag. It's just one less thing I have to worry about when I'm not jailbroken.
Well, I was originally jailbroken as well with 2.0 and then again with 2.1. I got tired of all the lag as well and decided it just wasn't worth it. Plus, I was wasting crazy amounts of time creating my own custom themes and stuff.
Then I read this thread. Dag gone it, I jailbroke it again last night.
Then I read this thread. Dag gone it, I jailbroke it again last night.
I wouldn't worry about trying to explain yourself, man. If people think that jailbreaking doesn't cause slowdowns, let them JB and deal with their pathetically slow phones.
Seriously, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the phone is NOTICEABLY slower when jailbroken. I usually seem to notice it after a couple weeks or so, and then I start uninstalling all of the cool stuff that made want to jailbreak (again) in the first place. First to go is Winterboard (what a frakin' HOG) followed by SBSettings (always hate to lose that one) and Notifier (again, hate to lose it) and finally MobileSubstrate itself. Although that always helps, the phone still feels sluggish. At this point I'm left with a phone that feels slow but looks cool (SSH themeing) and can record video, but after a week or so I finally decide that those two things aren't worth it, and I end up restoring. Voila! Snappy UI again. I mean, the difference is night and day! iStat shows loads of RAM (30-40MB) available, even after heavy use (when jailbroken, my free RAM was typically in the SINGLE DIGITS; even when freed it was <20MB) and that extra RAM is probably what accounts for the difference in speed. All I know is, it's nice to have a phone that responds to input reasonably fast, and it's nice to NOT have to reboot constantly to free up RAM.
So, you're not the only one who used to jailbreak and now doesn't. Some of us agree that it's far more 'elite' to have a functional phone than a bling bling one.
I wouldn't worry about trying to explain yourself, man. If people think that jailbreaking doesn't cause slowdowns, let them JB and deal with their pathetically slow phones.
Seriously, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the phone is NOTICEABLY slower when jailbroken. I usually seem to notice it after a couple weeks or so, and then I start uninstalling all of the cool stuff that made want to jailbreak (again) in the first place. First to go is Winterboard (what a frakin' HOG) followed by SBSettings (always hate to lose that one) and Notifier (again, hate to lose it) and finally MobileSubstrate itself. Although that always helps, the phone still feels sluggish. At this point I'm left with a phone that feels slow but looks cool (SSH themeing) and can record video, but after a week or so I finally decide that those two things aren't worth it, and I end up restoring. Voila! Snappy UI again. I mean, the difference is night and day! iStat shows loads of RAM (30-40MB) available, even after heavy use (when jailbroken, my free RAM was typically in the SINGLE DIGITS; even when freed it was <20MB) and that extra RAM is probably what accounts for the difference in speed. All I know is, it's nice to have a phone that responds to input reasonably fast, and it's nice to NOT have to reboot constantly to free up RAM.
So, you're not the only one who used to jailbreak and now doesn't. Some of us agree that it's far more 'elite' to have a functional phone than a bling bling one.
If you think about it... the more RAM the iPhone is using, the more page-outs it has to generate. Page-outs slow down the phone. Also, the iPhone has even less RAM than an iPod touch because the iPod touch doesn't need all the phone components running. With iStat on the iPod touch, my free RAM has been 55MB and I've NEVER see that much available RAM on an iPhone. I like how I can open SMS and it comes right up in about 1 second. The iPhone clearly has limited resources... why fill up the little bit it has left?
Mavis, want your iPhone to run even SMOOTHER? Before you close Safari, make a new page and close the rest of your pages... This is handy because when you close Safari, it will actually quit instead of staying running in the background. I used Free Memory to confirm this.
I wouldn't worry about trying to explain yourself, man. If people think that jailbreaking doesn't cause slowdowns, let them JB and deal with their pathetically slow phones.
Seriously, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the phone is NOTICEABLY slower when jailbroken. I usually seem to notice it after a couple weeks or so, and then I start uninstalling all of the cool stuff that made want to jailbreak (again) in the first place. First to go is Winterboard (what a frakin' HOG) followed by SBSettings (always hate to lose that one) and Notifier (again, hate to lose it) and finally MobileSubstrate itself. Although that always helps, the phone still feels sluggish. At this point I'm left with a phone that feels slow but looks cool (SSH themeing) and can record video, but after a week or so I finally decide that those two things aren't worth it, and I end up restoring. Voila! Snappy UI again. I mean, the difference is night and day! iStat shows loads of RAM (30-40MB) available, even after heavy use (when jailbroken, my free RAM was typically in the SINGLE DIGITS; even when freed it was <20MB) and that extra RAM is probably what accounts for the difference in speed. All I know is, it's nice to have a phone that responds to input reasonably fast, and it's nice to NOT have to reboot constantly to free up RAM.
So, you're not the only one who used to jailbreak and now doesn't. Some of us agree that it's far more 'elite' to have a functional phone than a bling bling one.
Totally agree, you get to a point where the lag is just so unbearable and you want to use the iPhone as the smartphone it was intended to be and not some toy you tinker with as a full time hobby.
It's great not rebooting the iPhone for months at a time.
Good tip.
I wouldn't worry about trying to explain yourself, man. If people think that jailbreaking doesn't cause slowdowns, let them JB and deal with their pathetically slow phones.
Seriously, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the phone is NOTICEABLY slower when jailbroken. I usually seem to notice it after a couple weeks or so, and then I start uninstalling all of the cool stuff that made want to jailbreak (again) in the first place. First to go is Winterboard (what a frakin' HOG) followed by SBSettings (always hate to lose that one) and Notifier (again, hate to lose it) and finally MobileSubstrate itself. Although that always helps, the phone still feels sluggish. At this point I'm left with a phone that feels slow but looks cool (SSH themeing) and can record video, but after a week or so I finally decide that those two things aren't worth it, and I end up restoring. Voila! Snappy UI again. I mean, the difference is night and day! iStat shows loads of RAM (30-40MB) available, even after heavy use (when jailbroken, my free RAM was typically in the SINGLE DIGITS; even when freed it was <20MB) and that extra RAM is probably what accounts for the difference in speed. All I know is, it's nice to have a phone that responds to input reasonably fast, and it's nice to NOT have to reboot constantly to free up RAM.
So, you're not the only one who used to jailbreak and now doesn't. Some of us agree that it's far more 'elite' to have a functional phone than a bling bling one.
Again, not trying to deny that JB can cause some lags depending what you do, but on a phone JB phone without Winterboard or Notifier I just randomly checked my available RAM and it read 18MB. I resprung (you claimed that even after freeing you had <20MB) and now have 48MB.
Just showing that JB is a very broad term. Not all phones have the same things installed nor will they suffer the same consequences. For me, the benefits definitely out weigh any negative effects.
There you've finally agreed! There are negative effects to a jail*broken* iPhone......and those negatives are lag and buggines.
Anyone: "Great weather today!"
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OrangeDog: "Another one agreeing that JB causes lag and bugs!"
You're a lost cause.