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Native apps do not load

IphoneIssues said:
I did not know this. That seems to be true. I just checked, and the Nike+ Running app is under the spinner, and I know it's not native from using it. Another thing that can be done is disconnecting your phone from Wifi and bluetooth and seeing which watch apps are still fully functional, but you'd need the apps to work in the first place, in order for that to be effective.

One other way is checking the version history in the watch app store. That is how I knew CNN was definitely native before I got it, because I had just got my watch and I was just starting to put 3rd party apps on it.

That last statement is what I was trying to express to the other guy. You want to narrow things down. Why would you care about what didn't work for a few others if it works for you?

So now you know it's either 3rd party apps, in general, or 3rd party native apps + non-native 3rd party apps which just happen to be buggy. The first one is more likely.

I know this really isn't a realistic solution, but have you seen what happens when you get things working, then reboot the watch without having placed music back onto the phone beforehand? I'm saying this to say I'm wondering what may happen if there is no music there to delete. Wondering if the problem actually comes back.

Also, is your watch on firmware 2.1?
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Watch is on 2.1.

I'll have to try your last paragraph test after I get back from business travel next weekend. Not going to screw with things now! ;)
 
IphoneIssues said:
Saying "again" and using a flawed argument does not change reality. You've asked me twice for a solution now, and I've offered to help, but you're now refusing to take my advice. I have to assume you're not really looking for a solution. People have done different things and had success. If you're looking for a solution, and you're trying to decide what will and won't work, without trying, you're extremely likely going to forever have an Apple Watch that cannot load native apps. Take it from somebody with tech support experience, that's not how the game is played.

Good luck with whatever it is you seek.
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Something just occurred to me...when you set both devices up as new, did you do the restore BEFORE pairing the watch and the phone?
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i have applied the music delete fix from a few pages back and it solved the issue entirely and all the native apps were working beautifully on my watch up until WatchOS 2.1 came out which brought the problem back for me and several others in this thread.
 
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lamonsas said:
i have applied the music delete fix from a few pages back and it solved the issue entirely and all the native apps were working beautifully on my watch up until WatchOS 2.1 came out which brought the problem back for me and several others in this thread.
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That's unfortunate. I had just gotten my watch a month ago. It was having the problem on 1.1, and then I updated to 2.1. I didn't know about the music strategy, or I would've tried it before updating, but there's no way for me to know for sure whether that would have fixed it or whether 2.1 would have brought it back for me or not.

Mine is working beautifully now though.
 
I have a replacement watch arriving today. So I'm going to remove all music and set my watch up as new and see how it goes. I really would love for the apps that I have to work.
 
Mjoshea148 said:
Watch is on 2.1.

I'll have to try your last paragraph test after I get back from business travel next weekend. Not going to screw with things now! ;)
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So, home from travel. My update:

  1. Having restarted my watch during travel - all native apps stopped working.
  2. Now home, I simply removed all music from the phone and either waited a bit or rebooted phone and viola...all native apps work fine.
  3. I have added a single song and then small playlist, each time restarting the watch and it appeared the native apps continued to work.
  4. I then added all music via a smart playlist and restarted the watch - native apps stopped working.
  5. Removed all music - native apps work again.
  6. Added a (non-smart) playlist of all my music - started the watch. Native apps appeared to survive the first watch restart, but alas, not the second.
  7. Done testing, not going to see what happens if I repeat step #3 and do multiple restarts - likely the same :(
My conclusions:
  1. If you want native apps, give up music for Lent.
  2. If you want music on your phone, gave up native apps forever ;)
  3. There's obviously some linkage between music on the phone and the native apps; what or why it exists (other than as a nasty bug) is TBD.
 
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So I had some time today and decided to do the delete all music and reset watch tip together. It did fix the native app issue, but i had to start up each app on watch before I resynced my music back to the phone.

Also, syncing the music ran into an issue where it never completes. The sync icon iPhone phone constantly circles. After searching on the web I tried resetting the network settings which kicked the phone to reboot. That seemed to fix the sync problem.

I'm almost certain that if I reboot my watch the native apps won't load again.

I guess this will have to do for now. Very disappointed with apple software.
 
Anyone on any of the Beta's gotten it to work? Updating to the newest build now, but basically each previous build cause me to have to erase my music to gain app functionality on the watch and then sync some music back to the phone. If I synced all my music, the apps on the watch stopped working.
 
Just updated to 9.3 and 2.2 and wait for it...

Issue still appears to be the same. Native apps crash, remove music, they work again. Reload music (step I'm on now), rinse and repeat. :(
 
Add me to the list of folks who can't get some apps to work unless they delete all of their music.

It's sad that 2.2 hasn't fixed the issue.
 
Mjoshea148 said:
Just updated to 9.3 and 2.2 and wait for it...

Issue still appears to be the same. Native apps crash, remove music, they work again. Reload music (step I'm on now), rinse and repeat. :(
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Baumer582 said:
Add me to the list of folks who can't get some apps to work unless they delete all of their music.

It's sad that 2.2 hasn't fixed the issue.
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Very sad indeed, how do you remove your music to make the apps work? via Itunes? do the apps work once your resync your music to your iphone?
 
After updating to watchOS 2.2 GM, I'm still having these annoying issues! Sigh, what's going on Apple?!?! A lot of apps and native apps won't load on my watch at all, and I've tried a lot of things mentioned in this thread already. Sigh.

Any ideas guys on how to get apps to load on my Watch? Getting really angry with this!
 
212rikanmofo said:
After updating to watchOS 2.2 GM, I'm still having these annoying issues! Sigh, what's going on Apple?!?! A lot of apps and native apps won't load on my watch at all, and I've tried a lot of things mentioned in this thread already. Sigh.

Any ideas guys on how to get apps to load on my Watch? Getting really angry with this!
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i agree man i have been in this thread since the beginning and over 6 months of not having native apps working on my apple watch i still don't have any native apps working on my watch after yesterday's supposed "major" 2.2 update, i can't use Shazam anymore either which was great on the watch ever since shazam updated their watch app to be native,

just a real disappointment.
 
lamonsas said:
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Very sad indeed, how do you remove your music to make the apps work? via Itunes? do the apps work once your resync your music to your iphone?
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Two ways to delete music, via iTunes or on device through Manage Storage and delete music.

One way to get back...iTunes.

Note: what I find is that after doing this a native app will generally work fine until the app either receives and update (instant break) or the watch is rebooted. Though in some cases I have seen apps seemingly just stop working without those two conditions having been met.
 
Mjoshea148 said:
Two ways to delete music, via iTunes or on device through Manage Storage and delete music.

One way to get back...iTunes.

Note: what I find is that after doing this a native app will generally work fine until the app either receives and update (instant break) or the watch is rebooted. Though in some cases I have seen apps seemingly just stop working without those two conditions having been met.
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i see, thanks for the explanation. i wont bother playing with removing music then if it'll just break again sometime down the road, such a shame really.

id like to add that i tried unpairing and restoring and setting up the apple watch as new after watchOS 2.2 came out yesterday anxiously hoping i'll start fresh with ios 9.3 and the new WatchOS 2.2 and hope the native apps will work but we all know how that worked out, native apps do not work period. just thought ill point that out and save some time for anyone that thinks about trying to set the watch as new with WatchOS 2.2 hoping it'll make native apps work.
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IphoneIssues said:
Damn, you guys are still having trouble?
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yes we are, many of us still don't have native apps working on our apple watches.
 
lamonsas said:
i see, thanks for the explanation. i wont bother playing with removing music then if it'll just break again sometime down the road, such a shame really.

id like to add that i tried unpairing and restoring and setting up the apple watch as new after watchOS 2.2 came out yesterday anxiously hoping i'll start fresh with ios 9.3 and the new WatchOS 2.2 and hope the native apps will work but we all know how that worked out, native apps do not work period. just thought ill point that out and save some time for anyone that thinks about trying to set the watch as new with WatchOS 2.2 hoping it'll make native apps work.
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yes we are, many of us still don't have native apps working on our apple watches.
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If I recall correctly though, you didn't want to try to fix it because the fix didn't work for somebody else, although it worked for other people. :/
 
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