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One of the main points I take from this is most of these people are accessing Apple services. Maybe not with your first device; the new iPhone user may just get on with a simple cellphone connection. As soon as you get a second device, the paid add-ons become proportionally more attractive. Maybe one of the reasons services is now the equivalent of a Fortune 500 company in it’s own right?
 
Wonderful news! People still have an iPad 2 laying around from 2011 they bought used on eBay.
My spouse is still using the iPad 3 that she bought new and is doing email, web surfing, banking, text messaging on it. I was recently working with an individual that was still using an iPhone 4. The tech keeps on working.
These people bought these devices for a purpose and the tech still meets those needs. They see no need to spend money on tech that will do more but they don't need more.
 
None of this actually says anything about the age of those Apple products... I have an old iPhone 4s that hasn't been turned on in over 2 years so I guess I own an Apple product, even though I would never buy one again.

So why are you here?

If you honestly never will buy an Apple product again, why hang out on a forum for people interested in Apple products?

I’d think, if nothing else, Apple’s stance on customer privacy should at least warrant a consideration of their products once in a while.
 
Won what exactly?!
I don't know!
What will happen if the Sun is hacked? And then goes dark?

We have an eclipse for about 45 minutes. But then Jesus comes and saves the righteous and leads them to the light.
Indeed! And to think it all started with Education then swiftly into the consumer market which then, help from the iPhone, bled into the enterprise markets.

Whatever happened to that "8-11%" market Apple holds, depending on who you talk to? ;) hehehe.

Market share has become an obsolete indicator these days, since entire families have mixed devices from various brands. A family might have iPhones, iMacs, and a Samsung Galaxy phone, plus an Alexa. So in that household alone, you have 3 brands (Samsung, Apple, Amazon) that have 100% representation.
 
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So why are you here?

If you honestly never will buy an Apple product again, why hang out on a forum for people interested in Apple products?

I’d think, if nothing else, Apple’s stance on customer privacy should at least warrant a consideration of their products once in a while.

This frustrates me on this forum. Why must you own and be active with your Apple products to be allowed to post according to some members?

Some people come here to keep up with the latest information, to see if there is an Apple product that appeals to them.

Why feel so insecure about it?
 
This report is amusing but may be misleading: if any single Apple product purchased (and now not working) is taken in consideration, the grand total is obviously growing.

But that also points that the US tech use cases don't lline up with the rest of the worlds. Where in the US, Apple features near 40% phone usage (if not higher), the rest of the world is closer to 30%. America really supports Apple far greater than the competition. Dunno if it's a combination of that it's an American company or pure marketing prowess? it's just an interesting thing to look at from a business case standpoint
Maybe the following statements can suggest an answer.
Everyone looks like they have the same damn phone.
You need upgrade to a better sphere. In mine, only a couple people have Androids and they don't like them.
I'm probably wrong and I shouldn't trust generalizations, but I've always had the feeling that "Americans" need to feel integrated and part of a group of like to feel right
 
Similarly, the majority of Americans voted for Trump. Does that mean Trump is a good president?
Technically, 46.1% of Americans who voted voted for Trump. 48.2% voted for Hillary. I and 5.0% of my fellow états-uniens voted for the libertarian/green/etc candidates.

These days you can't get a majority to agree on anything.

Lots of folks on this forum purchased original Apple II's in the late 1970's. I'm not quite such an old-timer as I only have an Apple II Plus. (And unlikely, but maybe there's an Apple I owner in hiding here as well.)
My parents bought me an Apple //e in 1983 (with 80-column extended 128k card and two 5.25" floppy drives). They and I bought an SE/30 for me when I was in college. But after that I don't think that I had another Apple product until I received a 30GB iPod (5G) for Christmas in 2005.

Now we have 4 iPhones (6, SE, 7, 7), 4 iPads of assorted vintage (iPad 2 -> iPad Air 2), 2 Mac minis (late 2012)(i5 and i7 2.6GHz), 1 Apple TV 4th Gen, 2 Apple Watches (S0 and S2), and 2 sets of AirPods in active use. That's 15 Apple devices, not counting chargers and dumb headphones. (We also have an Apple TV 3rd Gen in a box gathering dust.)
 
None of this actually says anything about the age of those Apple products... I have an old iPhone 4s that hasn't been turned on in over 2 years so I guess I own an Apple product, even though I would never buy one again.
Then why are you here?
 
When I switched over from some of those other brands to Apple gear, it was a life changing moment. I can’t imagine changing short of some new revolutionary company taking over the lead or Apple just going berserk. It’s that simple.
 
these are the same teens who cry foul on twitter every christmas when their parents don't get them an iPhone, or even the right colour iPhone.

you can poll teens all you want. Heck, I was once one too, and many of the things I said I was going to do, or buy, was NOT in line with reality since most teens do not have their own sources of income, and those that do, due to lower wages typically paid to teens have far less disposable income to afford $750-1000 phones.

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Spoiled brats. If any of those kids were mine, they would end up in a foster home.
 
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I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well. Very view have iPhones, and those that do don't know how to use it.
You must live in a lower income area. Or you're not in the US. Here in Southern California the iPhone dominates, same thing in the Northeast. Each one of my friends and every member of my family is on an iPhone with the exception of one person.
 
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Woman over 50 but not men? Wonder why?

What the median number of Apple products owned? The average could be messed up by that guy who owns hundreds of macs.
 
I have

2016 15" MacBook Pro (TB3)
iPhone 7 Plus
Apple Watch Series 0
iPad Pro 9.7"
Apple TV (4th gen)

The MacBook Pro is a device given to me from a govt. grant.
The iPhone 7 Plus was purchased on EIP from T-Mobile last Black Friday at a special $450 price.
The Apple Watch and Apple TV were purchased using 2 years of savings.
The iPad Pro was purchased open-box last month at Best Buy for $489.

I say this not because I am trying to make other people feel bad, but because I make the point that a college student living at home with his parents who make <$20000/year can still afford to buy and use these products.
 
This is household so if mom if anyone in the family has an Apple product they're counted. My mother has an iPhone so they're counted, my wife is all Apple all the time and my kid has a mac so my household is counted. If you flip it I'm all Android and Linux, my kid also has a Linux laptop so of were counting households we are and Android/Linux house too. It seems strange to count households even though the penetration number is impressive.
 
Like all cult themed technology, this too shall pass... just give it time. When you are at the top there is no place to go but down... luckily they have enough cash to ride out the wave for a long time without collapsing.
Nah, they'll just keep raising prices to make up for the losses (if any) and add more money to their bank.
 
That is funny. You are calling a scientifically conducted survey skewed and then using a 100% non-scientific anecdotal story to back up your theory. No, it doesn't work like that.
It's even one step worse than this; he used the anecdotes to support the assertion that the study is skewed.

This nonsense is why logic ought to be a mandatory high school course.
 
Most agree the slower than normal sales of the iPhone 8 is due to the fact that most are waiting on the iPhone X. I know I am.
Yes, the fans are, but the "common man" will be put off when they realize it costs half a monthly salary and go for the discounted 6S or 7.
 
"On average, the time spent on an iPhone was "dominated" by phone calls, emails, and texting, followed by social media. Most Americans surveyed said that they were less likely to spend time watching videos, playing games, and shopping on their iPhone."

I guess camera quality really does not matter? All they hype around the new camera is a bit overblown?

Not a compelling case for the iPhone really, since all of that can be easily done on a mid range Android phone.

With 85% market share world wide now using Android based phones, I think Apple should be looking the for the next "iPhone" or um product that generates 69% of their revenue and profit. 2017 Peak Apple?
 
I'm curious if you think those HPs will last 4 years. I think it's a testament to Apple and computing in general that it is becoming normal for a computer to last 3-4-5 years, and be completely productive. My MBP is a mid 2014, and works fine for all of my development tasks.

I have 7 years of statistics of computer "life" for our part of the uni, and that statistics show clearly that a PC has on average about 6 months longer life than a mac. I know it's hard to believe, but the numbers don't lie ;)
It's partly due to the macs being so expensive to repair that it's not worth it to fix 2 year old computers.
This drives costs through the roof.
 
Just more evidence that since that Tim Cook guy took over, Apple's been going down the tubes.
Nobody's really accusing Tim of being a bad marketer or keeping Apple going in the direction it was -- but it's hard to see the next truly revolutionary, paradigm-shifting product coming out of Apple these days.

I'd love to be proved wrong, but Apple's product lineup just consists of well-evolved versions of things that Steve Jobs brought out.
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I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well. Very view have iPhones, and those that do don't know how to use it.

Hey, market researchers, sorry to drop this bombshell on you, but this guy in this web forum says all his friends and the teenagers he sees around are using Android phones, so your data must be wrong.
 
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This frustrates me on this forum. Why must you own and be active with your Apple products to be allowed to post according to some members?

Some people come here to keep up with the latest information, to see if there is an Apple product that appeals to them.

Why feel so insecure about it?

I can understand that motivation. And I have no problem with Apple-less people coming here and participating; owning an Apple product isn’t, and never should be, a requirement for engaging in discussion and it’s often educational for people on both sides.

However, according to the posters own declaration, he will never purchase another Apple product again. Which means he really has no interest in them. This begs the question: “why bother coming here?” The most obvious answer, and one we see corroborated regularly, is that they do it simply to troll.
 
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