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How many Americans own a product that's build using Samsung Components ?
90%
 
I can understand that motivation. And I have no problem with Apple-less people coming here and participating; owning an Apple product isn’t, and never should be, a requirement for engaging in discussion and it’s often educational for people on both sides.

However, according to the posters own declaration, he will never purchase another Apple product again. Which means he really has no interest in them. This begs the question: “why bother coming here?” The most obvious answer, and one we see corroborated regularly, is that they do it simply to troll.

I own lots of Apple products. At my house, 3 Mac's, one Apple TV, 4 - iPad's of various gen's, 5 - iPhone 7's.

At my house we have begun to question purchasing future Apple products.

Mac's are for sure gone. The price keeps going up for new Mac's. At the same time they keep removing stuff, like Mag Safe, ability to upgrade HD/RAM and forcing ports (USB-C) that would require the purchasing of many expensive dongles just to keep working. Also at the same time Windows PC quality has gotten better and better. Microsoft with their surface line has woken up their OEM partners. A $600-$800 Windows 10 laptop from most vendors today is a quality computer with little to no compromises. I spent $1400 on my new Thinkpad last month. 15inch, i7-7500 KabyLake, 16gigs of DDR4 expandable to 32gig, Intel Wireless AC, GIGE Ethernet port, 15inch IPS HD screen, HDMI port, SD card port, removable battery, 950GTX and Intel GPU, USB-A 3.1 ports. It came with a 256gig M2 SSD drive. Part of the $1400 ($400) was the Samsung 960 M2 1TB drive I bought and installed in it. The keyboard is 100x better than the latest Macbooks. It is super fast and up-gradable. It is heavier and not as thin as a Macbook but both sit just fine on a desktop/table.

The watch...zero interest in any watch that does not give you at least 3 full days of battery life. The new Apple TV...nice but all of my TV's are smart TV's now so spending $150-$200 hmmmm tough choice. Home Pod...haahahaha. Outside of iMessage none of us really use any Apple software on our iPhones or iPad's now. Amazon Music Unlimited works just fine on a iPhone or Android Phone. Google maps is still so much better than Apple maps. All of the schools my kids go to (high school/college) use Google Docs, which works great on any platform. 3 of our cars have Apple Car play but they also support Android Auto. Moving to Android phones/tablets would be pretty simple for us.

So coming here and complaining because you feel like Apple is making the wrong moves and you will probably not buy any more Apple stuff....I get it.
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How many Americans own a product that's build using Samsung Components ?
90%

Considering they make refrigerators, washing machines, dryers and even tractors, not to mention all kinds of consumer electronics, I would put that at a 100% possibility.
 
Spoiled brats. If any of those kids were mine, they would end up in a foster home.
I’m not sure I’d go to that level.

But if they so desperately want an iPhone, they can get a job and learn to pay for their luxuries.
 
I’m not sure I’d go to that level.

But if they so desperately want an iPhone, they can get a job and learn to pay for their luxuries.
I was making irrational-nonsensical statement. I make sarcastic comments.....but really..they better work for it...or.....it's paddle time for misbehaving.
 
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I’m not sure I’d go to that level.

But if they so desperately want an iPhone, they can get a job and learn to pay for their luxuries.

or tell them to get an Android.. Whatever works right?

Besides, people would have more Samsung equipped gizmos than they would Apple.
 
or tell them to get an Android.. Whatever works right?

Any of the flagships, whether iPhone, s8, note8, pixel are luxuries. They are high priced devices that can easily be supplemented with more affordable options.

If it’s a necessity, than they can live with any tool that’s affordable and gets the job done. As of today, that also includes cheaper options like used devices, lower end androids, etc.

But a brand new top of the line 1000 iPhone is not a necessity.
 
I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well. Very view have iPhones, and those that do don't know how to use it.

this is why we have studies instead of relying on a single personal experience.

also while teens could have android phones, what about the tablet at home? what about the computer they use? this study isn't about iPhones only, it's about any sort of Apple product in a home. numbers seem reasonable, not skewed.

and what does "knowing how to use it" have to do with anything? the article was talking about whether their time spent on the device is "productive' meaning getting work done, or "unproductive" meaning playing games. it's not whether or not they can be productive. usability between Android vs iPhone is an entirely different discussion. sounds like you just want to bash Apple whether or not it pertains to the topic.
 
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Currently own:

2x iPhone 8 Plus
2x iPhone 8
1x Apple Watch Edition with LTE
1x Apple Watch with LTE

1x iPad Pro 12.9” (2017) (with keyboard case/pencil)
1x iPad Air 2
2x iPad mini 2

2x rMBP
1x rMBPtb

1x Apple TV 4.. no 4k video.

1x 3TB Time Capsule 802.11ac
1x 3TB Time Capsule 802.11n
1x AirPort Extreme
2x AirPort Express

1x PowerBeats 2
1x Beats Studio Wireless 2.0
1x BeatsX
1x AirPods

Loads of accessories, dongles, cases, and the 5K LG Thunderbolt screen, which isn’t actually Apple, so didn’t make the list. Also, I’m currently selling off my iPhone 7 Plus’ (two of em), so, technically, I also own them....

Yeah, I’m insane.
 
In order of purchase:

iPod Shuffle
iPod 30GB + Dock
iMac 27-inch
MacBook Pro 13-inch + 3x Power Adapters
iPhone 4
iPad 3
Mac mini + Keyboard and Trackpad
Airport Express
iPad Air 2
iPhone SE
plus a million more cables, adapters and accessories.

I think of myself as extremely frugal. :D
 
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I don't know about this, it sounds like it is skewed, the majority of the teens that I work with all have android phones because of the costs and their continual destruction and dropping of their phones. Nearly all the adults in my sphere use android phones as well. Very view have iPhones, and those that do don't know how to use it.

Odd - literally every single person I know has an iPhone, including all teenagers. But I don't be believe my experience is universal ;)
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And 100% of Americans own at least one Microsoft Windows PC.

Um . . . no.
 
I'm not buying on this and I still know a lot of people who doesn't have one and I own an iMac, iPad Mini, iPhones for every member of the family, AppleTV and Airport Extreme. I'm assuming this survey is conducted on bigger cities and then they look at the number of Apple or some kind of products sold. Divide that to the total number of US population and there you got that at least 6 in every 10 Americans have an Apple or some kind. Basically my 4 other Apple devices already covers for 4 people based on that assumption. Makes me wonder if iTunes on PC and Apple Music and iTunes gift cards is part of that study.
 
Market share has become an obsolete indicator these days, since entire families have mixed devices from various brands. A family might have iPhones, iMacs, and a Samsung Galaxy phone, plus an Alexa. So in that household alone, you have 3 brands (Samsung, Apple, Amazon) that have 100% representation.

Wow! Well put. So what is the new more relevant metric companies are to use today?
 
Most agree the slower than normal sales of the iPhone 8 is due to the fact that most are waiting on the iPhone X. I know I am.

The 8 is not competing in 2017, even less so in 2018. Changes are here/coming in phones. The X is good but Apple needs to watch the situation. The 8 is not well placed, as good as it is by 2014 standards. Will the 6/7/8 line be discontinued? Possibly. Add that to all the other doubtful product lines (there are quite a few). iPad is OK, it is almost single-handedly keeping the tablet market afloat.
 
As a professor at a university in Philly, I take notice of the laptops students use as well as their phones. More than half of the students are using Apple MBAs, MBPs or MBs. The others use a variety of PCs from Dell, Lenovo, etc. Even in my online classes, when students share their screens for various projects I can see that about half or more are using macOS. In a graduate business course I taught recently I had students who used PCs but also had iPad minis for e-reading. As for phones, again, it's about evenly split between iPhones and Androids (almost exclusively Samsung). My sample is fairly large, more than 120 students so far this semester. When I taught a summer course this year, every student had an iPhone.

I use an iMac at home, also one at work, plus an MBA for when I travel, such as teaching abroad. I also use an iPhone 7, while my wife uses an iPhone 6, as does my daughter, though her husband and her brother both use Samsung phones.

An iPod mini was my entry to the Apple ecosystem in 2004 so I could listen to audiobooks. Eventually I got an iPod Touch, then moved from 23 years using PCs to Mac. I have to use PCs often in classrooms to show my powerpoint slides and videos, but I much prefer my Macs.
 
Makes sense

My mom has a MacBook (2012) and she just got the 8 plus (I'm so jealous but waiting for the X) and also a mini iPad from a couple years ago

My dad has the 6

And I have the 7
 
Wow! Well put. So what is the new more relevant metric companies are to use today?

For overall success of a product? Just look at sales. For overall success of the company as a business? Look at profit. Nothing new about these metrics. Only that market share is not as accurate a predictor as it was before.
 
That’s true. Apple products are renowned for their beautiful designs... it never occurred to me that consumers might be purchasing more Apple products to showcase in their living rooms. :p

Or as already pointed out, someone has an old iPod in their draw which they don't use, in which case they are classed as owning an Apple product.
 
While I most certainly don't fall in the 'wealthiest Americans' category, between my wife and I we own 5 Apple products (two iPhones, iPod shuffle, Apple TV and a Macbook).
I’m not American. We have 6 Apple products at home (they are all mine) and we don’t consider ourselves to be wealthy.

Anyhow I think it’s a great achievement for Apple.
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As a professor at a university in Philly, I take notice of the laptops students use as well as their phones. More than half of the students are using Apple MBAs, MBPs or MBs. The others use a variety of PCs from Dell, Lenovo, etc. Even in my online classes, when students share their screens for various projects I can see that about half or more are using macOS. In a graduate business course I taught recently I had students who used PCs but also had iPad minis for e-reading. As for phones, again, it's about evenly split between iPhones and Androids (almost exclusively Samsung). My sample is fairly large, more than 120 students so far this semester. When I taught a summer course this year, every student had an iPhone.

I use an iMac at home, also one at work, plus an MBA for when I travel, such as teaching abroad. I also use an iPhone 7, while my wife uses an iPhone 6, as does my daughter, though her husband and her brother both use Samsung phones.

An iPod mini was my entry to the Apple ecosystem in 2004 so I could listen to audiobooks. Eventually I got an iPod Touch, then moved from 23 years using PCs to Mac. I have to use PCs often in classrooms to show my powerpoint slides and videos, but I much prefer my Macs.
iPhones are ubiquitous were I live too. I’m in the UK and live outside of London. I commute into London for work. On the train about 98 % are iPhone users. When you get into London things are a bit more diverese, you see more Samsung phones and a few other android phones. However even then 70% are still iPhones. Of course these are just my observations based on my specific route. Where I lived before I would say Samsung phones were more prevalent. Where I live now it’s predominantly iPhone.
 
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Psh, American's are just SHEEP!!!!
Ah. Joni Ive, the modern Mozes, can be proud
The transfer from the Beloved to the Bezeled country is complete

Time to summarize his biblical history in a 500 page testimony
The Insane once Great
 
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Or as already pointed out, someone has an old iPod in their draw which they don't use, in which case they are classed as owning an Apple product.

Absolutely... I have an iPod in my drawer, but it's been replaced by an iPhone and an Apple Watch... and soon will be supplemented by a HomePod. If you look at the big picture of what that survey shows, it's that more people own more Apple products so it's safe to assume that more people are joining the Apple ecosystem and those with more disposable income are buying more Apple products as a result.

I'd also add that if that survey was conducted on me, I would have completely forgotten to mention my old iPod and MBP, so it's possible others did the same which means the avg number of owned Apple devices could be even higher than what was reported.
 
I think the country where Apple is best implemented is the US, and this since the MAC, especially thanks to the Americans who always prevail their products


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