I believe I am the most awesome person in my house.I believe Apple video service will be too "family friendly". Netflix has some great original shows which not so family friendly.
Neither of our baseless beliefs are worth anything at all.
I believe I am the most awesome person in my house.I believe Apple video service will be too "family friendly". Netflix has some great original shows which not so family friendly.
First, Netflix still has an app, right? So who cares? A bundle’d save a few dollars a month tops. It’ll still be on an ATV, just not part of Apple’s streaming service. Unless Apple or Netflix decide to be babies about it and yank the app.
Second, regardless it seems to be that a big difference between Apple’s building an audio hub and a video hub is that the labels & stores knew they were doomed and needed Apple for distribution in a new medium, whereas the studios already have a outlets ways to stream content to us, sometimes including their own. Add to the earlier audio market few competitors and a marvelous new thing called an iPod and it’s easy to see how Apple’s mistaken if anyone in Cupertino thinks they can replicate their success in audio with success in video.
This story made me think that the balance is shifting perhaps not all the way back to the content owners but at least away from dominance of the distributor. First premium networks (eg HBO) developed original content, and now distribution channels (eg Netflix, Apple soon) are. They’re vying not just for customers but Academy Awards. It’s no longer good enough to just distribute content if you want to be on top; you need to create it. And if your creation is high quality, you’ll win awards and significantly earn recognition and grow business. From this longer term strategy perspective, Apple’s decision. She’s perfect sense to go outside their traditional wheelhouse and enter production. I don’t know if they’ll be good at it, but I do hope a couple of good shows come out of it. They almost have to try.
And they’ll still need Netflix.
As in largely unprofitable and struggling to make money.
No, Netflix doesn’t make much money and burns cash like it’s going out of style. Why? They have to buy and pay for content. It’s not their fault...it’s just the business they’re in.
Netflix has A LOT of work to do. This is a hobby for Apple.
I am shaking in my boots if I’m Netflix, actually. Netflix understands original content is EXPENSIVE and HARD to make. Most of Netflix content consumed is simply licensed (paid for) content and guess who has more money than anyone to pay for content? That’s right, Apple.
Pretty much only Disney has been successful long term in making their own original content, and they are starting their own service too.
Netflix is an App at the end of the day. Without cash and meaningful content, they are going to have a hard time.
Quick, name 5 original Netflix shows with any staying power. I can’t either.
Now name 5 for Disney. And what Disney didn’t create, they bought and now own.
Tough business.
Just use Apple streaming, Netflix streaming, Amazon streaming, Hulu streaming, CBS streaming, HBO streaming, Disney streaming, etc.
How many different streaming services will the average family subscribe to ?
I think your statement (or rather the premise of it) is way more baseless than the OP's one. The fact that Apple wants their content to be family friendly has been reported many times. Their App Store policies should be taken as a consideration too. Situation may change but as things stand right now an assumption that Apple produced content will be "family friendly" has solid grounds.I believe I am the most awesome person in my house.
Neither of our baseless beliefs are worth anything at all.
Until Apple Video Streaming flops and then buys out Netflix for billions.
Don't forget the assets Disney owns now, not to mention the rumoured acquisition of 20th Century Fox.I don't fully understand the "Disney offering". Wouldn't it just be Disney content? Who wants an entire channel dedicated to just one provider's content?
I sure hope someday there is a way to get all these streaming services all in one place for one monthly bill instead of being bled with smaller cuts of 20 dollars or so each. You know? Sorta like what Cable TV is?
Fuller House? That was based on an old show and hardly original. House of Cards flopped after 3 seasons, Orange is decent, and Defenders is mediocre.How many years does a show have to be on to qualify as having staying power? Because orange is the new black, the defenders series, house of cards, and fuller house feel like they have had staying power.
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This should be a crime.
This is a hobby for Apple.
They made a whole $100M in operating income and still forecast listing $400M for the year? Not impressed, still not profitable because of 1 quarter. Their own guidance calls for them losing 4 times that.Well, we do not know if Apple is making any money on Apple Music either, do we? And that's with 30% handicap that they inflict on Spotify on iOS platform. BTW, Spotify has just started making profits.
They nail plenty. Services are Apple’s biggest growth engine at over 20%. They will get this right and have all the money they need to do it. That’s the key in content...buying it.Which is why I don't have much faith in it. They can barely nail things they care about let alone a hobby.
Fuller House? That was based on an old show and hardly original. House of Cards flopped after 3 seasons, Orange is decent, and Defenders is mediocre.
I mean, you can be in denial, but these are not epic examples of content.
Think about Disney content.
They made a whole $100M in operating income and still forecast listing $400M for the year? Not impressed, still not profitable because of 1 quarter. Their own guidance calls for them losing 4 times that.
Apple services have margins in the 60% range, grow at 20% and have over $45B in revenue. I’m confident Apple makes money on it, probably almost pure profit.
Regardless of how Disney got some of their content, it’s theirs. They make money on it from shows, box office, parks, and merchandising. Masters at it. They’ve also created a ton of content.House of cards had 6 seasons. Fuller house, not the show it’s based on, had 4 seasons (going on 5).
Disney ripped off public domain content and than used its lawyers to prevent others from using it. Think about the one original ideal Disney has had.
And yet here you are.My household subscribes to zero. Me and my daughters play with legos, draw, paint, play outside, go for hikes, go to the playground. I’m not even sure when we would have time to watch TV. We have life to live.
Just use Apple streaming, Netflix streaming, Amazon streaming, Hulu streaming, CBS streaming, HBO streaming, Disney streaming, etc.
How many different streaming services will the average family subscribe to ?
Regardless of how Disney got some of their content, it’s theirs. They make money on it from shows, box office, parks, and merchandising. Masters at it. They’ve also created a ton of content.
House of Cards has 6 seasons and flopped after 3. Look at the ratings. I standby by that.
Again, Fuller House was a reboot and is by no means a hugely popular show. Look at the ratings. Not an original concept and a small potatoes show regardless.
Disney owns so much content, it’s hard to even list it all. Just “Frozen” is probably bigger than all of Netflix’s entire original content library.
Netflix is on every possible platform it can be on, Android, Smart TVs, the web, iOS, etc. so that has me wondering, is Apple going to license their content for distribution through anyone else for those platforms or will they make apps for them and compete like Netflix?
Or try to use the service to lure (or keep?) users on their hardware?
Google has had streaming services for many years now (have you heard about YouTube, YouTube TV?) so if anything Apple is following Google here. It makes more sense for Google to do this though as they are a service company first and foremost. Apple and Samsung? I do not get this trend of hardware OEMs venturing into content creation. It seems illogical.and Google (Android TV) will follow Apple, obviously and Samsung (Samsung TV) will make their own too.
I don't fully understand the "Disney offering". Wouldn't it just be Disney content? Who wants an entire channel dedicated to just one provider's content? People want selection. I, for one, would never subscribe to just a "Disney channel". It's no different than old-fashioned cable services that sell channels. Nobody wants that in this digital age. They want single sign-on with a seamless experience.
My household subscribes to zero. Me and my daughters play with legos, draw, paint, play outside, go for hikes, go to the playground. I’m not even sure when we would have time to watch TV. We have life to live.
If Apple TV comes with an interface where “free” and “paid” contents are all mixed together like amazon prime, I will never subscribe it.
It’s soo annoying to like a title, only to find out that the “subscription” isn’t enough and I have to pay more to access that content. To me, it’s just pure advertisement. And I personally don’t want it.
As in largely unprofitable and struggling to make money.
No, Netflix doesn’t make much money and burns cash like it’s going out of style. Why? They have to buy and pay for content. It’s not their fault...it’s just the business they’re in.
Netflix has A LOT of work to do. This is a hobby for Apple.
I am shaking in my boots if I’m Netflix, actually. Netflix understands original content is EXPENSIVE and HARD to make. Most of Netflix content consumed is simply licensed (paid for) content and guess who has more money than anyone to pay for content? That’s right, Apple.
Pretty much only Disney has been successful long term in making their own original content, and they are starting their own service too.
Netflix is an App at the end of the day. Without cash and meaningful content, they are going to have a hard time.
Quick, name 5 original Netflix shows with any staying power. I can’t either.
Now name 5 for Disney. And what Disney didn’t create, they bought and now own.
Tough business.
So Disney doesn’t make money from the content you think they stole? Hilarious.Stand by whatever you want. Those shows were Netflix exclusives and popular. Disney buys content. Frozen is exactly my point. They took a public domain property and endlessly shoved it in our faces. If you remove the content they purchased after it was made and the public domain content Disney doesn’t have anything.