What do you base that opinion on? Reports are that most iPad apps should run just fine. Nothing 3D of course but just as good as they do on iPAd.
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Netflix Not Developing App for Vision Pro Because Headset is 'Subscale' and 'Not Relevant' to Subscribers
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They’re full of sh*+. It would take one person a few hours over a few weeks to port the app over. The code base and architecture is the same as iOS and iPadOS, and Xcode will do most of the work. Most of what they would need to do would be on the UI side. Netflix spends more on craft services on a mini series or movie then they would spend to port the app over.
Uh people who ordered a Vision Pro and have Netflix.
I recently cancelled my Netflix subscription as well. I did type in the comments reason for unsubscribing is because they refuse to integrate their app with the Apple TV app.
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Why doesn’t Apple just buy Microsoft? Amazon? Google? Epic?
Very true, other services are going to have native apps, so who cares about Netflix? Right now they are just crying, but let’s wait a couple weeks and see what they say. Next Friday thousands of people will be trying their Visio Pro units and things will change.
when Nvidia shield came out in 2015, Netflix built a special version to support 4k/5.1 surround sound.
and there's a special binary for Facebook Portal.
let's not pretend Netflix never tried to adopt new risky platforms at or around launch time.
Netflix is 'Subscale' and 'Not Relevant'
Yes, Apple has made it very simple to port apps to the Vision Pro, specially if these are written in SwiftUI.
But if they use some third-party RAD tool, things may not be that simple.
Well, that happens when trying to cut corners. Hopefully that’s not the case with Netflix.
Even Unity is now compatible, so go figure.
They may not have enough money for development. If that’s the case, they are on a decline and may not survive much longer.
I only have Netflix because I get it for free from T-Mobile.
Also, as of today, I’ll be getting Hulu for free (with “Free Ads”, not ”Ad-Free”))
Didn't I read that Apple pre-sold 180,000 of them already? That hardly seems like a niche product. Some of Netflix's other platforms may not hit those numbers, and that's just the pre-sale.
And with most of these Apple platforms, the effort to "port" the code from one platform to another isn't even porting. You just need to modify it (or verify that it works as-is) to fit the UX paradigms of the device. For us to create an Apple Watch app from our iOS app is ridiculously trivial -- and that's gotta be harder than making Netflix work on Vision Pro.
Apple must have said something to tick that dude off... too bad, because a chief reason for me to buy Vision Pro is to use streaming apps like Netflix while traveling. Not smart, Netflix. I'm disappointed.
And with most of these Apple platforms, the effort to "port" the code from one platform to another isn't even porting. You just need to modify it (or verify that it works as-is) to fit the UX paradigms of the device. For us to create an Apple Watch app from our iOS app is ridiculously trivial -- and that's gotta be harder than making Netflix work on Vision Pro.
Apple must have said something to tick that dude off... too bad, because a chief reason for me to buy Vision Pro is to use streaming apps like Netflix while traveling. Not smart, Netflix. I'm disappointed.
it's not difficult to allow iPad Netflix to work on Vision Pro. at the most, they'll just need to make sure their analytics dashboard for Vision Pro is properly separated from iPad devices.
if anything, it might generate customers since they need more content to watch after they're done going through TV+ library.
I originally wrote AVP off as nothing but a niche product, when I suggested ways it could not be a niche product it seemed to offend people (the morons buying it on this forum I guess) so now I think it will stay a niche product. Good for Netflix watching out for their bottom line and stock holder. **** AVP lol
I still am happy with Netflix’s content overall. YES, there is absolutely a LOT of GARBAGE, and I’m shocked on how much they have spent on poorly conceived, horribly written, badly directed so many of their past five-years productions’ have been.
But—there have consistently been several decent and even quite good series over the course of each year. Enough that I have something to watch each month (honestly, more than I can watch even if I were to do nothing else).
And some series I enjoy rewatching favorite/fun episodes. In some cases entire seasons of shows I really loved that they cancelled after 2 seasons.
Now what is bothering me about Netflix, and Prime, and the others is the new addition of sports programming. That is a HUGE part of what drove cable tv costs up so hugely each year, every year. The greed of the sportsteam owners truly knows no bounds.
So, Netflix just spent $500 million on WWE. Which I will not denigrate actual sports by labeling WWE ‘wrestling’ as a sport/competition. It’s just ‘reality tv’ with makeup, wigs, steroids, and spandex — for both the men and the women!
Anyway…I’m not yet at the point where I’ll cancel, but that may depend on the next price hike, which is certainly coming.
Amazon Prime will start inserting ADVERTISING into ALL subscriber streams starting on 29 January, UNLESS you pay a fee pof $2.99 per month. So, I’ve ALREADY paid Amazon like $180 for my annual membership. Now…in order to receive the SAME service I’ve gotten from them for years (and Amazon Prime Video has always been the ’also-ran’ just barely better than a pure garbage freebie channel) I need to either accept watching advertising (that’s a NO-FU, tiny-d*ck-Bezos) or pay the additional $36 per year.
So all of the streamers have gotten in on trying to further wring the dollars out of us.
The other reason this is happening is that the advertising industry has finally acknowledged (all but a few very OLD won‘t-die industry people) that no one is watching cable tv and barely watching broadcast tv. Those adverisers—this is a trillion dollar business have lost hundreds of millions, maybe billions of user-watch-hours every year. They have been salivating at shoving advertising into all streaming channels for years.
They finally got there with Netflix. Certainly in a few more years, you’ll have to pay in order to NOT see ads, even on the highest tier sub. And then you won’t get a choice at all, it will be all ads for everyone. Just like cable tv and broadcast tv were for the past decades.
I think I went off on a tangent…sorry. But, basically, I used to really like Netflix, when they were the underdog fighting the hell-machine of the advertising driven system. Now…they have been thoroughly suborned of their own free will and I have begun to hate them. Disney never even had my consideration as a possible anti-machine/machine, they’re just too gigantic and powerful. You do not f*ck wth the Mouse!
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So I just bought a new 4K tv (a nice Sony Bravia full-array LED, 55”) and I’m wondering whether it would be worth it to upgrade my HBO and Netflix subs to 4K. I’m still on 1080p on all of my services. I have a small living room (width), so my distance on my couch to the tv screen makes a 55” right within the sweetspot to be able to see the increased crispness of 4K versus 1080p.
When I first got the tv around 1 month ago, I immediately noticed that everything is massively sharper, brighter, more saturated (and great sound just from the tv!) than my old LG. Now I don’t really notice any increased sharpness, but I realized this week that I haven’t actually watched anything in 4K. I mean, maybe something on Amazon, but I don’t trust thy actually have a good streaming quality that would create a noticeably better-than-1080p picture.
For those of you using the 4K version of services, do you see a real (noticeable) difference from 1080p?
The truth of the matter is that Netflix is most certainly holding out for a SHARP deal on the Apple App commission. They don’t want to pay the going % (whatever it is for Netflix, it’s probably lower than for some other large companies, just due to their number of subscribers) and want a sweetheart deal before they’ll make a new app. And, also, yes, I’m sure they’d like to see what happens. But my feeling is they are holding off for negotiating purposes.
If I were a b*tard CEO trying to squeeze as much profit out of my product vs playing fair with my subscribers, however few of them there might be on this emerging platform, that’s what I would do.
What’s wrong with the web app? It’s not like they could provide much of a unique experience on VR streaming 2D content anyway.
Unpopular opinion but I actually like seeing developers pushing back on making everything into native apps. It needs to happen.
Unpopular opinion but I actually like seeing developers pushing back on making everything into native apps. It needs to happen.
I watch Netflix the most of all the streaming services but the next price hike I think I'll be done. I watch Disney+, Apple TV+, and Paramount+ about the same amount. I really only watch movies/tv on my 4k TV with a Atmos surround setup. I rarely watch media on my computers or iPhone. Both my local stores have AVP available on day 1, but I have 3 concerts to play next weekend so I wouldn't have time to use it so I'll just wait for reviews on here at this point before getting one.
For streaming services, I have Netflix, Disney+ (along with Star), Prime, Apple TV+, and temporarily Starz. Easily the one I watch the most is Netflix. Specifically, I watch a lot of non-North American content which Netflix has a ton of (both good and bad). I also have cable TV, but I'd cancel that if it weren't for the wife and kids demanding we keep it.
However, I have absolutely no desire to watch any of that on a headset. Like ZERO. I can't see myself buying a Vision Pro (or perhaps Vision non-Pro?) in the next 3 years. After that, all bets are off, but I'm guessing I won't buy such a headset within 5 years from now either.
I fully understand why Netflix didn't bother writing an app for Apple Vision Pro. It seems like just putting the iPad version on it would be a bad thing, as it would probably be really clunky in terms of UI and neither Apple nor Netflix would really want that. Furthermore, the user base on Apple Vision Pro is going to be extremely small for the foreseeable future. It's just not worth the effort in the near term. They can continue to experiment with an alpha of Netflix on Vision Pro behind the scenes, but there is nothing lost for Netflix if they don't launch a release version until say 2 years from now when there may actually be more justification for it.
BTW, yes I understand the argument that Netflix has released apps on other obscure platforms. I know, but the issue is that they often suck. Sometimes they don't but often they do. But on an Apple device to have a sucky bad dedicated Netflix app would be bad for PR. They're better off having no dedicated app at all.
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Well it’s true, the device is brand new and only like amillion units sold. It’s sub scale right now. But years from now it will make sense to put netflix on it.