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I dumped them when they started charging more and streaming at 4mbps bitrate for 4k content. I know what the caches on ISP's networks cost them, it's pure profiteering.
 
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I personally haven't been watching Netflix for months now and was paying $20 a month. I share it with my sister and cousin, they occasionally watch something. If I can't share a streaming service, I won't buy it.

If it wasn't for the Verizon offer of 12 Months of Netflix Premium for $25 I probably would've canceled it.

Verizon offer is still there btw, choose NFL+ for $25:
 
And one final thought to add to my Pulitzer novel above; Until Netflix can prove I am in violation of their TOS, I'm going to assume I'm not and will leave things as they currently are. I honestly don't know if I'm breaking any of their rules, because there is a lot more about our very unique situation than I've already shared. So if or when they figure out how to accuse us of anything, they are welcome to cut us off and we'll then decide if it's worth fighting them or not. Most likely not.
 
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I never suggested they would throw anything out of the window. But betting the company on it…. Or at least a very large impact.
IMO, it's clearly ML is one aspect of it. Albeit an important aspect.
All I said, and it seems hard to grasp, is that modelling is at best, an educated guess.
Well here's a good link: https://aws.amazon.com/machine-learning/
Ridiculous comments about a wet finger are just that. Ridiculous.
So you agree that the management embarked on a rigorous strategy to determine how to manage their business?
I never once even suggested modelling was useless, or anything like it.
You pretty much downplayed it.
 
For those who have forgotten or perhaps don’t realise, in 2017 Netflix sent a tweet in support of password sharing, purely because it was the dominant market leader and had no real competition and was not losing subscribers:

An extremely short sighted arrogant thing Tom have done, but they did it, they never once said anything about it UNTIL last year, year before? When they started losing money and market share.
So no wonder people are confused or upset with them. Netflix told you to password share!


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This shouldn't be a surprise that things change in our society. However, I shared my password with my family members, the same as I do today. I didn't write it on the walls of a dormitory in some college nor did I share it with my neighbors or friends. I don't think Netflix had any problems with sharing a password with people in the same household.

You make it seem like the intent was to share a password, with anybody and everybody.
 
If you have to use a 2FA every time you open netflix, then no matter how easy it is, it's still gonna bother the hell out of that one friend - whose phone is associated to the main account - to answer multiple times a day the OTP/SMS code or whatever to those friends who he shares the account with.
Honestly, if this would happen, I would see lot of people either switching to a single account, or drop Netflix entirely.
There are lots of services that forward SMS messages to email. And they’re dirt cheap.
 
This shouldn't be a surprise that things change in our society. However, I shared my password with my family members, the same as I do today. I didn't write it on the walls of a dormitory in some college nor did I share it with my neighbors or friends. I don't think Netflix had any problems with sharing a password with people in the same household.

You make it seem like the intent was to share a password, with anybody and everybody.

I think Netflix only expected families to share. I pay for half of our sub and share it with my sisters family. I will be quite annoyed if they stop that.
 
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I think Netflix only expected families to share. I pay for half of our sub and share it with my sisters family. I will be quite annoyed if they stop that.
That's what people are annoyed at. If you sisters family doesn't reside in your household, they would want your sisters family to be a separate subscription.
 
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On a website where people salivate over $700 wheels and $4000+ laptops…. Some people are bitching and moaning about a couple bucks to be able to legitimately share an account. curious. Use it, don’t use it. Nobody really gives a ****.

Happy Holiday Humbug Hipsters!
 
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On a website where people salivate over $700 wheels and $4000+ laptops…. Some people are bitching and moaning about a couple bucks to be able to legitimately share an account. curious. Use it, don’t use it. Nobody really gives a ****.

Happy Holiday Humbug Hipsters!
Pretty sure no one here, or virtually no one here supports paying $700 for wheels, let alone salivates for it. But if people want to put others down when they don't even have the capacity or empathy to understand someone elses life then go ahead. The worlds a big place and I think no one cares about people with such a small mindset of those people.

It must be a sad life indeed for those people.
 
No. I just didn’t beat it up as the gold standard on a process to save the company like you did.
So the opinions are proper simulations through ML aren't worth much or they are. It might be worth it to go through the link provided, but yeah, they are the gold standard when done correctly.
 
So the opinions are proper simulations through ML aren't worth much or they are. It might be worth it to go through the link provided, but yeah, they are the gold standard when done correctly.
My entire point, despite your attempts to belittle me are that they are an educated guess. No doubt more times correct than not, if not exact in many cases, but an educated guess nonetheless. But you refuse to even acknowledge that.

When you look at some of the faux pas of modelling (and this is the term we were using before you have recently changed it to machine learning, which is a subset of modelling) then you know it can be disastrously wrong at times. And that is all I said about it.
 
My entire point, despite your attempts to belittle me are that they are an educated guess.
There is no belittling. Not everybody knows everything and I was trying to be helpful so that you would understand the ML is more than "an educated guess". An educated guess is: "will the Yankees beat the Mets".
No doubt more times correct than not, if not exact in many cases, but an educated guess nonetheless. But you refuse to even acknowledge that.
No it's more than an educated guess. Or said another way, Management making choices is less of an educated guess than a good ML model.
When you look at some of the faux pas of modelling (and this is the term we were using before you have recently changed it to machine learning, which is a subset of modelling) then you know it can be disastrously wrong at times.
As management decisions can be disasters. But ML has roots in mathematics.
And that is all I said about it.
Ok. If you still believe that distilling ML to an educated guess, you are entitled to your opinion.
 
I’m using someone else’s Netflix and have never agreed to their TOS. Is it my friend who’s actually the criminal here with this in mind? You’re calling me the thief but using the TOS as your argument so it sounds like by your logic the person who gave me their password is the thief, not me.

You're not violating TOS, but probably the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act which is pretty broad.

The act prohibits accessing a computer without authorisation or in excess of authorization. To view Netflix content you probably have to access a Netflix computer.
 
There is no belittling. Not everybody knows everything and I was trying to be helpful so that you would understand the ML is more than "an educated guess". An educated guess is: "will the Yankees beat the Mets".

No it's more than an educated guess. Or said another way, Management making choices is less of an educated guess than a good ML model.

As management decisions can be disasters. But ML has roots in mathematics.

Ok. If you still believe that distilling ML to an educated guess, you are entitled to your opinion.
You’ve only just mentioned Machine Learning. Goal posts moved I guess. You mentioned "modelling" to which ML is only one part.

No, it was definitely trying to belittle. But I understand what many MR members are like, so it’s pretty much water off a ducks back.

btw, Will Yankees beat the Mets is a question, not an educated guess. Picking a winner may be an educated guess and that guess could equally be based on modelling of many kinds (history, ins/outs) or even machine learning, but we were talking about Netflix changing the goal posts on their subscription, (like you're changing the goalposts).

Ah well, I’m over your flexible comments. I was just commenting on modelling, to which you clearly have forgotten. I have my opinion and you have yours. Time to move on #bored
 
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I don’t mind paying an extra £3 for family members to use my Netflix account, I’m not that hard up but if I were, I would just ask them to send me the £3 each month.

I will however get the hump if it means we can’t use our own devices at multiple places, we travel a fair amount so they will see lots of IP address.

If you read it carefully they are not going to be enforcing anything other than the verification code for now so it’s just a nudge to pay the extra if they feel you are sharing passwords.

If they start to make like difficult, I will consider cancelling as really, most of the content is guff and we watch maybe 7-8 shows so cancelling and then signing up for a month to binge watch might be the better option.
 
"Spying"? You realize that this website is capturing your IP address and other information about you right now, right? They're also sending your information to Google, who is using that information for advertising and other purposes.
Usually that information is collected by Google directly by some code in the HTML that makes a request to Google servers. Some services just use a transparent pixel that is loaded. Stuff like that can be blocked quite easily by blocking the URL via firewalls or via the hosts file. Google Analytics was the first thing I blocked. So if I visit a site that uses Google Analytics, Google will probably not register me as as a visitor.

You should also block most of the big advertising companies like Doubleclick, which also belongs to Google I think. They just collect too much data about as. Ads are important for creators, but what those companies do is spying. Maybe they will still gather data, but we should make that as hard as possible for them.

Data collected in the log files has to be anonymized in the EU after 7 days. So the last block of the IP is replaced with XXX.
 
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