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New 13-Inch MacBook Pro Announced With Magic Keyboard, 10th-Gen Processors, Up to 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD, and More
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No - obviously some people, like you, did. But not "everyone" knew. Anyhow, no worries, I've had some good advice from others on the thread.
If your maxed out Mini can do the heavy lifting for another year then try and get through the next 12 months. As you can see with this release (and most previous iterations) RAM and SSD gets cheaper over time. So by 2021 you'll be able to max out a new MBP even more so for the same money and it's possible Apple will do a redesign next year. Plus you might get USB4 on the next laptops.
I've got a rMBP from 2015 which I enjoy using and it has the ports that I need. Plus I'm using a Mac mini which I upgraded myself with 2TB and 16GB RAM. I'm telling myself I don't need a new Apple computer until 2021 despite the pull to purchase one being strong.
Enjoy your new kitchen. Spend on that instead.
Yeah the new 13" MBP makes a maxed-out Air seem way more compelling. I am not sure that was the intention.
Can someone explain why Apple puts 802.11ax on the iPhone 11, but not on the Mac Pro and on the MacBooks, which were all released afterwards? It seems to me that Wi-Fi 6 is both more important and easier to implement on a computer than on a phone?
I’m curious about the actual 10th gen processors in this. The only ones I can find on ark.intel that fit the profile are the i5 1035G7 and i7 1065G7. Those are listed as 15W with a 25W TDP-up mode and the clock speeds are lower than what Apple has here. Is Apple using different processors or are they simply clocking them higher?
I think this release should be a good indicator we really don't have any idea what ARM-Mac roll out looks like / Apple's decisions aren't always predictably cut and dry. Lots of devs could abandon macOS all together for re-architecting everything and find it to be too much of a hassle. Apple could be working on a magic band aid translation software like Rosetta from IBM to Intel, but with serious performance.
They could move the dates further down the line with coronavirus messing everything up. They could hike pricing tremendously even though they make the A-series chips in house and market the crap out of it as something that integrates well with iOS apps natively and an extra 'one last thing' or two beyond power efficiency and performance leaps.
Too many unknowns.
I say buy what you need now, worry about later later.
I also maintain the average person isn't going to know or care about architecture leaps ie. your 2020 laptop isn't going to be worth pennies the second an A14, etc. drops.
Because resell on Butterfly keyboards are probably going to be terrible now. I don’t have a MBP now, I’ve bought a couple of refurbs where the return period is still good.
A stop gap with the newer keyboard is what I’m thinking for now. I can the 10th gen for cheaper than the last 13” inch refurb I bought.
1. Probably meaningless day-to-day unless you’re transcoding video or doing something that math-intensive
2. How about data for the actual computer this thread is about? You can’t predict a benchmark based on the CPU alone.
no need of luck. If your MBP is like new, there is absolutely NO reason that Apple refuses your RMA.
It's just a question of time : before / after 14 days
I did it to my MBA 2020, they immediately gave the RMA allowance
Depends. ( Sorry I have to say that )
Intel is giving enough options for OEM to tune their system. Which means with different TDP and cooling profile, vendors can change how the CPU react. It may be the old MBP could only allow up to 10sec of 4.7Ghz, while the new 10th Gen gives you 4.1Ghz for 15sec. Or I could sell you a system which allow 5Ghz for 1sec......
The truth is some will have to test it out to answer that question accurately.
Personally I see this update as removing the Butterfly keyboard more than anything.
At a moment I ask to myself : When is the best moment to purchase an Apple Notebook ??
Reading comments here over time, Something is ALWAYS missing
Reading comments here over time, Something is ALWAYS missing
It's a freaking idiotic decision not to have the same amount of port for all 13” MBP.
You pay 1.5-2k dollars to get a hot (pro) machine that struggles to edit photos and videos.
Where is the user experience? If you buy this machine for just browshing then that's a different story.
The silicon and ram is identical to the 2019. Where else are these benchmarks going to come from? No reason to obfuscate the obvious, just because it's Apple.
I'm not a 'benchmark junkie' either, fwiw, but its some indicator which is better than none.
Smaller bezel means less room for palms. How big are your hands?
😂 because windows is a fake operating system.
Even though the max turbo speed is lower, it will still be faster since it is using Icelake cores which are faster between 33-38 percent at the same processor speed. So it will probably be around 16 percent faster on a single core max turbo. You can read more from Anandtech's Icelake testing: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14664/testing-intel-ice-lake-10nm/4
I'd imagine most people won't be ordering the maxed out version. But at least there's 4TB options for those that want it.
I am still on a Early 2015 MacBook Pro. I am holding out for 2023 as the year to make a substantial upgrade. You gotta give Apple some slack, maybe COVID disrupted work on a major revision that would have been 14 inch in size. These days, you really don’t require much performance to complete most tasks. One of my roommates uses a what I believe is a 2017 13 inch with touchbar to edit his photos and he seems happy with it. The audience here on Macrumors is a little different and we tend to be more future proofing and spec hungry.
Clock rate ≠ processor speed. That's basically been true, well, forever, but increasingly so in the recent decade or two.
Exactly. 2013 i7 with 2.8 GHz is probably the 3840QM. The late-2019 16-inch MacBook Pro comes with a 2.4 GHz i9 option, which in single-core scores 1117 vs. your CPU's 755, or 48% faster. Correcting for the clock, assuming linear scale (which isn't true, but let's ignore that), it would actually be 73% faster at the same clock speed.
There's other considerations as well, such as more cores being added. Your machine has four cores, which was a lot at the time, but now even the Air can be had with that many, and the 16-inch goes up to eight.