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New 13-Inch MacBook Pro Announced With Magic Keyboard, 10th-Gen Processors, Up to 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD, and More

I've been waiting for this release before buying a new laptop. Now I'll have to decide between the 13 and 16". I know many are disappointed with the 16" features that this laptop *didn't* get, but it still looks like a big upgrade from my 2015 13", which is the lens I'm looking at it through.

I don't know how to evaluate the integrated graphics. How much better are these integrated graphics compared to my
Intel Iris Graphics 6100 1536 MB?
 
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alexanderkilts said:
Honest question: are processor speeds (numbers) completely meaningless these days?

I'm on a 2013 13" Macbook Pro with 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 and I can't even open up MacRumors without the warning how it's slowing down my Mac.

The high end here is a 2.3 GHz, also i7, though obviously different generation
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The number of proc quite meaningless if you're just surf website/doing some excel. Yes, I saw some diff my MacBook pro 2011 16 GB ram vs iMac 2017 base 8 GB. What's most important to mac is RAM. Second it the drive speed at least SSD. The last for me is the graphic card. I'm a developer and I do open a lot of applications at the same time. 8 GB is struggling. 4GB is beyond my struggle when i use mac mini 2014 baseline. Old-time 4 GB ram is to way much even 8 GB is way too much in windows. I never reach max like when I used mac.
 
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Per Rene richie

Going through the 13-inch #MacBookPro website:

- No 14-inch display
- Base models are still Intel 8th Gen, not 10th Gen (starts at $1,799 model)
- RAM starts at 8GB, storage at 256GB
- RAM tops out at 32GB, storage at 4TB
- Magic Keyboard all around
- No WiFi 6
- 720p webcam
 
The MacBook Air has significantly faster memory, newer 10th gen CPUs at lower cost, the same integrated graphics.
 
miniroll32 said:
True, but the 8th gen CPUs now are stuck at 1.4ghz, whereas previously for the same price they were 2.1ghz?
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Performance is still no better due to the heat generated by these new CPUs. These CPUs boost high but then throttle down almost as quickly.
 
I’m kinda disappointed, but I have a feeling we will see some new hardware at WWDC. Possibly a revived 12 inch MacBook Arm. Don’t forget that in apples press release saying WWDC will be online, that they said “new products”. I like the idea of a small 12 inch MacBook with decent power
 
chucker23n1 said:
Like with the Air before, these are probably special Ice Lake NG (rather than G) parts that haven't been announced yet.

The 2.3 GHz BTO option could be the 1068G7 (both the base and the turbo match), but none of the others fit an existing SKU. And the 1068G7 still isn't shipping, as far as we know. My guess is none of these are announced SKUs; rather, Apple got (just like with the Air) special-TDP parts that are somewhere in between the existing 15W and 28W ones. (edit) Except for those that are still 8th-gen CPUs, of course.

Bit of a shame that none of these are six cores (unlike Comet Lake-U), but OTOH, we get much better graphics. We'll see in the benchmarks what this actually means compared to the previous Coffee Lake-U parts — the memory controller is way up from LPDDR3-2133 to LPDDR4-3733, so despite the lower clock speeds, we could see some nice boosts there.

It's a bit strange how little the $300 premium over the Air buys you. Benchmarks could tell a different story there, but it seems to be slightly nicer display and speakers, a faster CPU and GPU, and the Touch Bar?
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I think you answered my question about the processors in your post, thanks.
 
insomniac86 said:
Others venders are doing it for laptops even smaller. Keep up with the times.
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Maybe with AMD CPUs, but with Intel CPUs, you get either Ice Lake-U (with up to four cores) or Comet Lake-U (with up to six cores, but a way too poor iGPU).
 
Hmmmmm... a maxed out MBP or a very good used car..... hmmmm........
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thadoggfather said:
I think this release should be a good indicator we really don't have any idea what ARM-Mac roll out looks like / Apple's decisions aren't always predictably cut and dry. [..]

I say buy what you need now, worry about later later.

I also maintain the average person isn't going to know or care about architecture leaps ie. your 2020 laptop isn't going to be worth pennies the second an A14, etc. drops.
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Yup.
 
Only Apple could market a two year old laptop at $1299 as new. Even the MacBook Air has a tenth generation quad core starting at $1099 and the Dell XPS has slimmer bezels, 10th gen and WiFi 6 for $1199. I don’t understand what they are doing with the 13-inch MacBook Pro.
 
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