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Having to reach all the way over to the laptop to use Touch ID is a bit annoying. Face ID would make that nicer (OTOH, it’s worse at consent). I’m not sure we’ll see that, though. The sensors take up too much space, and the benefit is minimal.
We disagree. All laptop input is via keyboard, so touch ID is natural, easy-peasy. Face ID requires always-on camera, which is a security no-no.
 
Waiting for M2 Mac Studio Max at this point! The marketing creates a mental block when the lowest machines are on M2! 😂
Given how recently the M1 Studios were released my guess is you will have a hella long wait for an M2 Mac Studio Max.
 
The M2 Max is going to be an odd little beast.

So the M2 Max machine looks like it might just be a slightly faster version of the M1 Max machine. Otherwise identical.
No. Not "Otherwise identical." V1 to v2 means thousands of lines of revised code, plus tech changes and performance improvement. What is "odd little beast" about that?
 
"next-generation 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros..."???
The late 2021 M1 MacBook Pro was a "next generation" MacBook Pro. The upcoming release is just a small tech refresh with an updated chip. Why is it necessary to make even the smallest changes seem like a new "generation"?
 
the new M2 would be expensive for the next 6-12 months, especially in Europe because of the weak EUR.

so i just grabbed an M1 Pro 14“ 1TB with a discount of 25% on amazon.
Yup I see various models of M1 MBPs, including BTO, discounted by up to €450 at some major resellers here.
 
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No. Not "Otherwise identical." V1 to v2 means thousands of lines of revised code, plus tech changes and performance improvement. What is "odd little beast" about that?
Revised code? In the OS do you mean? In which case it will also be available on the M1 machines, so no benefit there.

I doubt any hardware improvements will be enough to make many people want to upgrade from an existing M1 Pro or Max. If you are a new buyer, sure, it would be worth waiting to see what happens.
 
Relieved that there doesn't appear to be anything here that would cause regret for me buying the 16" 1TB M1 Pro - I'm quite sure I'm still not using a 10th of it's processing power and at £2,600 it's definitely not close to an annual or bi-annual upgrade. Wonder how long it'll be before I'm missing out on MacOS functionality because I'm only running an M1 chip though...

I'm very happy with mine and could see myself using it in 2030. I would have been fine with an M1 or M2 with 24-32 GB of RAM. I don't need all of the compute power but do prefer more RAM. It looks like the chassis can accommodate higher thermal loads but I'm just happy that this thing runs so cool.
 
Revised code? In the OS do you mean? In which case it will also be available on the M1 machines, so no benefit there.

I doubt any hardware improvements will be enough to make many people want to upgrade from an existing M1 Pro or Max. If you are a new buyer, sure, it would be worth waiting to see what happens.
If I continue to get good video work, ideally I would like to upgrade my Pro Max every other year since $4,000 + is a lot to dish out once a year!
 
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the new reality for Macs, where the design has been set* and won't change for a few years, so the only thing we can look forward to is incremental speed boosts from new M-series chips and yearly features added to macOS. Choose when you want to jump in when your desires and wallet are in congruence.

*except for the Mac Pro, which we should learn about shortly
 
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the new reality for Macs, where the design has been set* and won't change for a few years, so the only thing we can look forward to is incremental speed boosts from new M-series chips and yearly features added to macOS. Choose when you want to jump in when your desires and wallet are in congruence.

*except for the Mac Pro, which we should learn about shortly
During Intel chips they were plenty of spec bump years, no announcement. Like someone said, they turn it into an event announcement to play to up and to justify price bumps. Waiting for the bigger screen “air” (3nm?!), this thing is just too bulky and don’t need all that power, just moderate power.
 
i dont see why apple would release another macbook pro this year they can wait till next year with the 3nm itll be more of a upgrade
 
I bought one of the last intel MacBooks (even got it refurbed) because I had to have it right as COVID was starting. I'm trying to figure out if it's worth selling/trading in for a new Apple Silicon machine, but my needs right now are just so modest...

If you are trying to figure out if you need to upgrade or not, that means don't upgrade yet.
 
i dont see why apple would release another macbook pro this year they can wait till next year with the 3nm itll be more of a upgrade
They could, but don't want to ruin Christmas for everyone? And especially not for themselves!

Edit: "more of an upgrade" for whom? There's plenty of potential buyers that don't currently have an M1.
 
Revised code? In the OS do you mean? In which case it will also be available on the M1 machines, so no benefit there.

I doubt any hardware improvements will be enough to make many people want to upgrade from an existing M1 Pro or Max. If you are a new buyer, sure, it would be worth waiting to see what happens.
Revised code everywhere, including on the chip. When any designer anywhere evolves a design it gets improved: more elegant, less kludge, different things broken ;~), etc. Not "Otherwise identical" as you stated.

Any one or all of many tech issues will upgrade. E.g. Bluetooth 5.3 on M2 will almost assuredly supplant the BT 5.0 on M1; but that is just one blatantly obvious example. All kinds of tech issues may change: WiFi, memory bandwidth, Thunderbolt, display brightness, display reflectivity, etc. Also some things that we may be totally unaware of, but that in total will comprise a newer, better box.

All that said, we too doubt any hardware improvements will be enough to make many people want to upgrade from an existing M1 Pro or Max. Our comments above apply to everyone else on the planet except existing M1/M2 laptop owners. But a few years from now (sooner for some apps/operations) even folks with M1 boxes will be running up against serious limitations that M2 owners will not yet be hitting.
 
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It's definitely the price that's the issue for me.
That's cool. I saved >$1k by buying my 2016 MBP after the 2017 version came out.

The point is that we do not know what the M2 MBPs will look like, but we should wait and see at this point: additional info improves purchase decisions. There is a tiny chance that waiting one more month may mean missing some bargain, but unless it is a great >$1k bargain, odds are higher that better bargains will present after M2 MBPs are announced.
 
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oh boy, you're gonna be disappointed. laptop 5 is gonna be just a processor bump to Raptor lake, and pro 9 will be a step up, but with Intel chips they just don't perform. MSFT better pray that Qualcomm can make some decent arm chips
The main issue is that Apple's displays cause eye strain/headaches and are unusable for me. Performance-wise I'm not a demanding user. The 3:2 aspect ratio on Surface Laptops is so refreshing.
 
Is it? I can’t find specs, a date, a price, anything.

Here are some information links on Microsoft Arm dev kit tools:


Direct link of the mMicrosoft Arm Dev kit:


Purchase link within for some reason is dead for me on mobile or laptop which makes me think either my location or stock is dead? I don’t know.

Some info of the system itself and two other systems that have arm chips but not necessarily run windows arm




  • ARM64EC allows apps to run on Arm hardware with a combination of ARM code that runs natively and x64 code that runs through emulation.

Screenshot from another forum has something critical to note about Microsoft’s vision of PCs running on ARM seemingly paired to Azure compute services in cloud. Not something I’m a fan of and something I’m hoping Apple does not do outside of Xcode IDE/SDK.

Lastly something interesting related to Apple and RISC-V
 

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