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Got a 16" Max not too long ago that I have yet to bring anywhere near its limits even with some heavy workloads.

Although I'm happy to see the MBPro progress I'm in no rush to upgrade until there is a major performance boost.
 
N5P, N3 or N4 don't matter to me. I'll be upgrading from a 22nm Haswell. Any of them will be lighting fast for me.
 
I'll take an M2 iMac first, Tim!

Apple picked a great time to roll out a steady supply of new products as inflation keeps climbing... my wallet!!!
 
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I pray to Apple it is coming in Mid-Night color. Otherwise, I'm not going to upgrade just for the M2 chip.
Enjoy the fingerprints, scuffs, & scratches the midnight finish is already well renowned for. If Apple ever adds a third colour to the Mac & iPad Pro line it should be Product Red. Also I'm sure plenty would buy & even pay more for a ceramic white.
 
OK I've been trying to figure out the value prop for these new models. I think this is it:

  • 10-20% speed boost over M1 Pro/M1 Max (100% possibility rating).
  • More GPU cores for M1 Pro (50% possibility rating; I've a vague feeling they might not even update the M1 Max...).
  • FaceID (75% possibility rating; I'm pretty sure Apple wanted this in the 2021 models but supply chain issues blocked it. It would've sold the notch as a useful proposition much more strongly.)
  • Dynamic Island or some kind of equivalent notification/alert system (<50% possibility rating; macOS has been delayed, and maybe this is one of the reasons why... The 14 and 16in models have the right kind of true black screens to support such a feature...)
Agreed 10%-20% pure speed boost likely; that alone justifies the new box. However IMO the real value add is simply the v1 to v2 evolution. Code improvements plus architectural/tech spec improvements (things like WiFi, BT, TB, memory bandwidth, USB, etc.) from v1 to v2 are always substantive.

Dynamic Island, who cares? Buyers of $4k+ MBPs are not wowed by cutesy consumer gimmicks. And the DI is a touch display thingy anyway.

FaceID makes no sense to me since so many workplaces and individuals (me) disallow always-on cameras for asecurity reasons. And again, this is a laptop not a phone or tablet. Laptops have a keyboard as the primary input, and using a touch ID key is logical and convenient.
 
Having to reach all the way over to the laptop to use Touch ID is a bit annoying. Face ID would make that nicer (OTOH, it’s worse at consent). I’m not sure we’ll see that, though. The sensors take up too much space, and the benefit is minimal.
 
Releived that there doesn't appear to be anything here that would cause regret for me buying the 16" 1TB M1 Pro - I'm quite sure I'm still not using a 10th of it's processing power and at £2,600 it's definitely not close to an annual or bi-annual upgrade. Wonder how long it'll be before I'm missing out on MacOS functionality because I'm only running an M1 chip though...
I’ve got the same model as you 🙂. Great machine! I would not worry about it losing functionality. The M2 looks to be mainly for people that don’t already have the M1 Pro/Max or require higher memory.
 
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I pray this M2 Pro/max chips still outperform Microsoft's+Qualcomm's 3rd generation Arm chip for Windows 11 Arm featured in their Mac Mini-like dev PC !!!!

That one isn’t coming until 2023, and we don’t even know which SoC it’ll get.
 
That one isn’t coming until 2023, and we don’t even know which SoC it’ll get.
Which are you referring to?
The Microsoft dev kit is available third fall, not the retail version.

Just remember a few chip engineering reps jumped from Apple to Qualcomm so we’ll see just how good they were at Apple through the work when this soc ahips in its performance.

Trust I stil believe Techno-Daddy Srouji will deliver the sweets for Hansel and Grettle to be happily trapped into Apple ecosystem for many years to come. Apple seems to have a knack of getting ever better chip and product engineers every generation of their products.
 
I guess these will be 10 and 12 CPU.
16 - 20 GPU PRO and 32 - 40 GPU MAX

Will be a nice upgrade from my 2010 Mac Pro
 
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Waiting for M2 Mac Studio Max at this point! The marketing creates a mental block when the lowest machines are on M2! 😂
 
If they bring the M2 Pro/Max MacBook Pro machines in Midnight, I will get one immediately. Also to get a 16". Extra screen estate will be nice.

Yep, I'm shallow like that.
 
If Apple does indeed update all of their Mac computers on a yearly basis, they will absolutely leave Intel in the dust sooner than later! For Intel to release a new chip, it seems like it takes years in the making and they make such a big media circus around it where Apple basically releases a new one every year since we know the new iPhone processor will turn into a new beefed-up even more M series SoC!
 
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Surface Laptop 5 and Surface Pro 9 rumored for Oct 12. I'm more excited about those.
oh boy, you're gonna be disappointed. laptop 5 is gonna be just a processor bump to Raptor lake, and pro 9 will be a step up, but with Intel chips they just don't perform. MSFT better pray that Qualcomm can make some decent arm chips
 
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