New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pros Reportedly Launching Later This Year

[hyatts3]

I was just about to buy a 14" MBP for a trip I have the last week of October. Any reasonable chance these new ones are available to have in hand by then?

 

[MistaBungle]

Damn, I'm about to bite the bullet for a refurbished 14" MBP 2021. I still feel like that is the best call for my 13" MBP from 2016.

 

[Nicole1980]

Imagine a 17" macbook air! We can dream can't we?

I'm waiting for the 22" macbook air

 

[l0stl0rd]

I was just about to buy a 14" MBP for a trip I have the last week of October. Any reasonable chance these new ones are available to have in hand by then?

I would no bet on it for all we know it could be Nomber 🤷‍♂️

I wish they would just skip the rest of the M2s and go straight to M3 Pro / Max in march.

 

[macsplusmacs]

I'm waiting for the 22" macbook air

Should we just wait for the 27"?

 

[Nicole1980]

Should we just wait for the 27"?

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I think when they finally make a 45" macbook air, that will be the sweet spot in screen size and portability

 

[adrianlondon]

I'm waiting for the 22" macbook air

With a fold-out Studio Display.

 

[macsplusmacs]

I'm kinda hoping that the new Apple VR rig will allow us to use/simulate our mac screens to, in effect, give us full vision desktops that encompass our entire views.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

I think when they finally make a 45" macbook air, that will be the sweet spot in screen size and portability

That's just being silly! Instead, a pocketable Air with roll-out KB (aka roller blind style) and a projector.

 

[buckwheet]

This seems odd to me, though I suppose it may be a new strategy to avoid producing "old" hardware—i.e., they can just solder in a different processor when making the same machine, giving customers a bit of a boost and allowing them to stop fabricating M1 chips. Maybe?

 

[Alpha Centauri]

I'm kinda hoping that the new Apple VR rig will allow us to use/simulate our mac screens to, in effect, give us full vision desktops that encompass our entire views.

I'm afraid that's been done already:

 

[EugW]

This seems odd to me, though I suppose it may be a new strategy to avoid producing "old" hardware—i.e., they can just solder in a different processor when making the same machine, giving customers a bit of a boost and allowing them to stop fabricating M1 chips. Maybe?

This is not new. Apple has been doing this for eons, on Intel, and on PowerPC before that, and even before that too.

 

[karranz]

The design is ugly. Take out those 2000s ports, make it thinner, put in the Touch Bar, change that cheap keyboard. I’m in.

 

[deconstruct60]

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While they might remain 5nm, the M2 Pro and M2 Max chips are expected to be manufactured based on TSMC's newer 5nm process known as "N5P," so the new MacBook Pro models would still have performance and power efficiency improvements. However, a bigger bump in performance would come from the switch to 3nm chips in 2023 or later.

N5P is not 'newer'. The M1 Pro and Max are already on N5P. N5P went into volume production in 1Half 2021 (over a well over year ago) and was in major sampling in 2nd have 2020. It isn't all that 'new'. The M2 Pro and Max being on N5P would mean it is stagnated fab process; not a 'newer one'.

In 2H 2022 , A newer one would be N4 or N4P .


N5P , N4 , N4P as all in the "N5 family". Pretty good chance the rumor folks are being a bit sloppy and converting "N5 family" into N5 and then the 'telephone game' is converting that into N5P. The 'plain' M1 was on N5 and Pro/Max N5P. So the 'plain' M2 being on N5P is just catch up to where the previous Pro/Max dies where. It doesn't make much sense for those Pro/Max to sit still. The A16 didn't ( A15 N5P -> A16 N4 ) .

 

[Kobayagi]

Nah, waiting for 1nm is the real one to wait for

Why stop there? I'm getting the -1nm.

 

[bradman83]

We don't? If Apple wanted dynamic-island-style notifications on MacOS they could place that in the menubar on all Macs, the notch doesn't matter. Except the menu bar is tiny, so putting notifications up there where it's eye straining and sharing space with, well, the menu bar menus, is not a good idea. Not like it's a touch screen where you can pull down on it.

There is nothing in this spot of the menu bar to begin with, and if the display actually continued above the camera the space would be too tiny to be usable anyways. And don't say the menubar could be increased in size, it already takes up valuable vertical space as is (since content can never be placed where the menubar is, MacOS doesn't allow it even if the menubar is hidden).

Apple should focus on fixing things that are broken in MacOS, notifications work well, if anything I'd just like more customization for it.

100% this! Dynamic Island makes sense on a smaller screen and on iOS where notifications pop up in the center and are accessed from the top of the screen, as opposed to macOS where they’re off to the left. Apple isn’t going to completely upend how the macOS menu bar has worked for the past 40 years to add Dynamic Island to macOS.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Why stop there? I'm getting the -1nm.

Old news, TSMC announces beginning trials of 'Dark Matter Wafers'!

I'm personally holding out for the rumoured 'Doesn't Matter Wafer' generation

 

[svish]

Excited to hear more about the new Macs.

 

[jwdsail]

When they say well into testing, what kinda well into testing are they doing at Apple? Launch Microsoft Word, reload macrumors.com in Safari? What exactly? Bench marking Final Cut Pro?

I'd like to think that it'd be doing final testing of thermal conditions under load to ensure that projections/simulations were accurate and that the existing case design (or already tweaked design after earlier testing) accommodates the M2 Pro/Max without issues? So, yeah, opening 50 browser tabs featuring their favorite ... I mean ... exporting multiple 8K HDR video files... yeah.. that's the ticket...

Could also be testing any incremental design tweaks to the existing case design including hinges, fans, speakers, cameras, water resistance (one can dream?)... Even wireless charging? Apple Thunderbolt 4/magsafe docks? (designed exclusively for the new M2 Pro/Max MBPs, in matching colors, of course!)

 

[erasr]

I laugh at the minority who go on about 3mn…. 1mn……. Next 0.5mn then 000.000552mn?!

Clearly these people have just got the M1 Pro in the last 12 months and are slightly miffed that a new model is already coming.

 

[jwdsail]

I'm waiting for the 22" macbook air

With a G5! ;-)

 

[Tyler O'Bannon]

Based on M2, will it have 20 core and 40 core GPU’s? And double encoders on M2?

 

[buckwheet]

This is not new. Apple has been doing this for eons, on Intel, and on PowerPC before that, and even before that too.

Yeah, I suppose they have, but they tended to wait a couple of years, as I recall. Though maybe that was more down to Intel's (or IBM's) release schedule than any specific choice Apple was making...

 

[chucker23n1]

Why you would want to wait for the 3nm? Rumor has it that the M3 chip will be revolutionary as was the M1.

The M3 is likely to be to the M2 as the A16 is to the A15. I wouldn't quite call that "revolutionary".

The M3 is rumored to be a leap over the fastest machines out now as Mark Gurman has hinted at this and Rene Ritchie on several of his blogs, and podcasts.

Rene Ritchie is the guy who thinks Apple Silicon isn't ARM. Not exactly an expert on SoCs.

Whether you choose to believe any of these guys or not, it makes the most sense to me to wait to upgrade my old Macbook Pro because I don't need to yet, and while the other machine will be satisfactory, who doesn't want the latest and greatest if they can?

That's always true.

You should mostly update based on a schedule (the 14/16 MBP are only 10 months old, so almost nobody should upgrade from those right now anyway).

 

[chucker23n1]

Yeah, I suppose they have, but they tended to wait a couple of years, as I recall. Though maybe that was more down to Intel's (or IBM's) release schedule than any specific choice Apple was making...

In the PowerPC era, Apple did the chipsets, so they had a higher level of control over how a machine worked. There was an era where third-party Intel chipsets existed, but by the time Apple moved to Intel, they were entirely dependent on what CPUs and chipsets they did, and I imagine they weren't always happy with the choices.