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New 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Kaby Lake and 32GB of Desktop-Class RAM Coming Later This Year

keysofanxiety said:
In fact you need to use less wires than the previous generations, as everything comes to life just by plugging in one cable, rather than 10.

So it's all a matter of perspective, really. It's either the most limited or most expandable MacBook Pro, depending solely on how restricted your way of thinking is.
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Sorry, I don’t understand your ‘maths' here. Help me…….
If I have 4 USB C devices, (that are not wireless capable), and I need to plug them in to my computer it sounds like I’ll need 4 cables.
If I have 4 USB A devices, (that are not wireless capable), and I need to plug them in to my computer it sounds like I’ll still need 4 cables.
How is that less?
 
glindon said:
Since Kaby Lake doesn't have the required support for LPDDR4 ram I highly doubt we will see a 32gb option. I think 2018 or even 2019 depending on what intel puts out. 32gb with Kaby Lake would require a different logic board as well as a redesigned cooling system to account for the extra heat from DDR4 ram chips. Then they would also have to increase the battery significantly to keep the same "10 hours of usage". If they used the same battery then it we be 6 hours of battery and I can't see Apple going backwards. So a 32gb MacBook would be thicker and 1/2 pound heavier.
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Right! An Apple notebook with 32 GB ram and the Nvidia 1080 this forum seems to have people clamoring for would likely be a new product category, probably with much of the same trade-offs as something like the Razer Blade Pro (no thunderbolt charging, ridiculously low battery life while doing CPU+GPU intensive tasks, hot enough that people recommend using an external keyboard, etc). Not so much a portable notebook as much as a desktop replacement.

Problem is, Razer can sell those laptops to gamers with disposable income to make decent sales - Apple can only sell to pros who are willing to sacrifice mobility for power. If Apple can't justify keeping a 17" MBP around, I doubt they would be able to justify such a mobile workstation.
 
Looks like I will stick with my 2013 model for a few more months, if that is the case...
 
I bought the 2016 MacBook Pro and realized there would be upgrades. Do I feel cheated and screwed by Apple? No, I do not. I was needing to replace my old MBP and had been waiting a while. Technology is constantly changing and there is no ideal time. You buy when you need and can afford to and go for what you can afford. You can sit and wait and wait and get no where thinking about what might come down the line and that it might be better. I chose to buy now, and do not regret it.
 
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ocnitsa said:
I'm just referring to what people are complaining about here...some that shelled out a lot of money for a lesser than magical iteration will be upset, especially if it's a "good product at a reasonable price."
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It was obviously an unimpressive release, the reaction both here and in the media was quite dramatic.

There was a huge pent up demand, and a lot of people ignored the advice to pass on this version. If they needed a computer that badly they got one, and if they're complaining that a newer better version shouldn't come out because it makes theirs look bad, they're just fools.
 
Teach4 said:
I bought the 2016 MacBook Pro and realized there would be upgrades. Do I feel cheated and screwed by Apple? No, I do not. I was needing to replace my old MBP and had been waiting a while. Technology is constantly changing and there is no ideal time. You buy when you need and can afford to and go for what you can afford. You can sit and wait and wait and get no where thinking about what might come down the line and that it might be better. I chose to buy now, and do not regret it.
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100% agree with you. The problem is too many iToy kiddies who think they should buy every version and to accommodate that, Apple should only release rare and major updates.

The reality is that computer makers should be updating products constantly as new tech becomes available, then when you buy you're getting a snapshot of what was available then.
 
BiteSizeThumb said:
I have yet to utilize the full 16gb of RAM... Sure 32gb will be cool, more of a bragging right.
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Yeah right! You have no idea.
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BWhaler said:
I just hope for better battery life. 10-12 hours in REAL world usage, not some magic Apple lab.
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They could boost it from 78Wh to 100Wh, which is the capacity limit set by regulators/airlines. So someone complaining about three hours battery life would then get a hair over 3.5.
 
It would be a nice, albeit late, upgrade.

I, for one, recently purchased the 2.7 GHz 15" MBP with 16 GB and Radeon 455 at a great price ($300 off and no tax from B&H via a rival Apple site). So far, it's a great machine that is plenty fast for my modern design apps (Creative Cloud, and especially Illustrator and InDesign).
 
manu chao said:
Maybe that is because the low-power version of the RAM used will be available later in 2017 in chips that allow 32 GB in the current MBP design?
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The ram is available (its already in the current MBP). Intel CPUs max out at 16GB of it. Maybe Coffee Lake will finally support over 16GB?
 
HiRez said:
Right now, perhaps (although it depends on what you're doing with it), but if you intend to keep the machine for more than 3 or 4 years, that's going to change. In 2011, 4 GB was plenty for my MacBook Air, it seemed very fast for such a small machine. I rarely came close to hitting memory compression and massive page swapping was a rarity. Now, in 2017, the RAM is frequently maxed out (most of it is already used right during the boot process) and in compression mode, startup takes a lot longer, and swapping things in and out of RAM slows it to a crawl at times (occasionally it will literally lock up for minutes at a time if I have a lot of things open).
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You indicate that it is due to the macOS but I don't think that is the case. I assume your way of using the machine changed.
 
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