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This guy hopes the new MacBook has an hdmi port
 
Some is the OS, some is all the persistent online services and daemons that we didn't have back then: Dropbox, Google Drive, several iCloud Drive processes, iCloud Photo Library w/sync, Google Chrome Helper, Google Updater, MS Updater, several Adobe CC processes, iStatMenus, Airplay, Siri, multiple mail accounts (in 2011 I had one, now I have 6 email accounts syncing), and more. Plus, the media we consume gets larger and requires more resources: music has higher bitrates, photos and movies and streaming video are higher resolution, web pages are much more complex, maps are higher resolution and have more data, screens are retina and require larger buffers, etc.

Sure, you can say all that stuff isn't part of the OS and you don't have to have it all enabled. But that's the reality now, most people use all that stuff (and others) and don't want to give it up. The point is, these things are only becoming more common, everything is becoming more complex, and all of it uses more RAM over time. So when buying a machine, you must consider that your RAM requirements years in the future will almost certainly be significantly more than you can imagine right now.


Understood and makes sense. I was just wandering as my wife is still using her 2010 MacBook with 4GB even running windows 7 in VMware and the Mac just runs fine. Adding an SSD made a huge impact.
 
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i do no think hardware is the issue, I believe all the nano technology is supper fast. every year same advertisement, Now your laptop, is 2x faster. oh gosh. What suck is the Software that is buggy. OSX is ****** if you ask me.
 
"...Kuo also expects Apple to discount the 13-inch MacBook Pro with a standard row of function keys this year as that model gradually replaces the 13-inch MacBook Air in Apple's notebook lineup."

Weird sentence.

Anyway, I wish Apple would release a MacBook Pro 15" with standard function keys. The Touch Bar on my 15" is the feature I dislike the most and use the least. Fumbling for ESC or activating Siri when aiming for Backspace is a daily annoyance even after 7-8 weeks of use. Adjusting volume control, screen brightness and keyboard brightness the old school way was much easier.
 
Starting production in Q3 with Kaby lake ..... But by then, Cannon Lake and/or Coffee Lake will be out. So, Apple is going to be 1 full CPU/chipset generation behind PCs now? Way to go.
 
Starting production in Q3 with Kaby lake ..... But by then, Cannon Lake and/or Coffee Lake will be out. So, Apple is going to be 1 full CPU/chipset generation behind PCs now? Way to go.

That's how technology goes though..... If you're always waiting for the next thing which is just round the corner, you'll never buy anything.

Add in the form factor of laptops and then the fact that its Apple laptops which aren't exactly standard inside and its not just something that gets thrown together quickly. But surely for 99% of users Kaby Lake will be more than powerful enough for what they need to do? Just as the current ones are. And the last gen of MBPs still are.

I totally get that people want the latest and greatest chipsets whether they actually need them or not, but Apple have never been lightning quick to update products with chipsets so this isn't a new thing. It looks like they were left hanging by Intel over the last 12-18 months which caused an inordinately long delay with the latest MBPs, but presumably they will get back in to more of a regular routine now where the laptop ranges get performance bumps annually or so.
 
Bring all Macs with upgradable/replaceable RAM and SSD at least, and even microprocessor if possible.
 
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This guy hopes the new MacBook has an hdmi port
His even got the dongle right there....maybe he forgot the other dongle for HDMI and brought the analogue , next time he will learn to carry both :p
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Bring all Macs with upgradable/replaceable RAM and SSD at least, and even microprocessor if possible.

The battery, storage and Ram should be user serviceable .
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I'm replying:
a) because you asked people not to, and
b) because you're wrong. Apple has every right to revise and improve their products at yearly intervals, and it's not screwing over customers when they do. It's helping them.
c) if they didn't refresh the MacBook Pro next year, you'd be blubbering about that instead.

Depends..... being a Mac Pro owner , this talk of yearly updates is outrageous !!!! If my Mac Pro was updated every year I'd be outraged!! :)
 
Guys, not everyone who bought is an early adopter and could have waited another 6 months ( or 12 is it released in November 2017).

My 2010 MBP has a faulty NVidia card and crashes every hour. Sometimes it gets stuck
in a loop and the machine reboots itself 6 times in a row.

The first time it happened it was replaced because I had Apple Care. Now that's expired, the issue is back and the Genius Bar from the Apple Store at London Stratford basically told me to f*** off.

What should I have done? The class action lawsuit was about the 2011 model, that left mine out.

Also I was baffled to see they no longer offer a 15" one with no discreete card. I thought that TB3 would give Apple the perfect excuse to get rid of them...
 
I'm not in a hurry, quite happy with my 2014 15" MBP. I would like 32 GB of RAM, though, so I think I'll hold off and see what happens.
 
That's got to hurt if you're one of the fools that paid out for the latest MBP. You just paid well over the odds for a machine nobody will want in six months.
Oh don't worry about them. There is one guy who would type up 2-page-long replies in every MBP2016 post defending everything about the machine, and yet I saw him making a thread offering a solution to solve the USB-C WiFi dropping problem by only using 5GHz and not 2.4GHz. Some people are just easily satisfied despite clearly being taken advantaged of.
 
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Oh, here's a scoop on an exclusive rumour I've just heard..... these new machines aren't going to get any cheaper any time soon.
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Macbook Pro Pro

I think Apple should put some sort of onus on the prospective buyer to prove that they really are a "Pro" user before they're allowed to buy the Pro Pro machine.

Straight away that would cut out at least 64% of all the moaning on forums when people discover they don't need a 64GB octo-core machine to read emails and post tweets.
 
Oh, here's a scoop on an exclusive rumour I've just heard..... these new machines aren't going to get any cheaper any time soon.
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I think Apple should put some sort of onus on the prospective buyer to prove that they really are a "Pro" user before they're allowed to buy the Pro Pro machine.

Straight away that would cut out at least 64% of all the moaning on forums when people discover they don't need a 64GB octo-core machine to read emails and post tweets.

That would be the Macbook Bro version. Siri voiced by Pauly D.
 
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Beefing up the 12" MacBook is very interesting, if the above is true then adding 16GB and new Kaby Lake processors will certainly beef up the specs of the MacBook. No mention of the iMac tho.
 
I'd be pretty p**sed if I'd waited and forked out for a new redesigned MacBook Pro, overpriced as it is for just 16GB RAM, then they release an option for 32GB later in the year because they couldn't be bothered to on launch? Apple's screwing of customers knows no bounds. ;)

Edit: Please stop replying. I'm bored of reading responses now.

They probably couldn't add 32GB of RAM last but they're working on it for this year. Technology changes a lot.

Oh and don't tell people not to respond to you! You're on a public FORUM. Ta.
 
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No way Apple will downgrade the MBP to desktop RAM. Makes zero sense.
Think he's a year of. Next Pro update won't be released until 2018 when LPDDR4 becomes available.
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I'd be pretty p**sed if I'd waited and forked out for a new redesigned MacBook Pro, overpriced as it is for just 16GB RAM, then they release an option for 32GB later in the year because they couldn't be bothered to on launch? Apple's screwing of customers knows no bounds. ;)

Edit: Please stop replying. I'm bored of reading responses now.
Sorry, just had to reply, but feel free not to read it :cool:
 
It's too little too late. It's the late release that I'm not happy about. If you've just invested in a new MacBook Pro, that you plan to last you years, having already waited years to upgrade because they brought out nothing decent, and you wanted 32GB of RAM but had to settle - you'd be pretty annoyed right now, cause there's nothing you can do about it.

Sure there is. You sell the late 2016 that you have to someone else who wants to buy it (and there will be someone else if you've taken care of the thing) and buy the 2017.

It's really not that hard. Everything else is messageboard performance art.
 
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32GB of RAM and a faster GPU on that machine would send me straight to heaven. If Kaby Lake enables that, fantastic! I'd definitely buy that.
 
Is it too early to start a thread speculating what people won't like about the new model and why we should all wait for the 2018 MBP?

It's never too early. Let's see...
-- Lack of mag safe
-- Needlessly thin and missing xxxxx feature that it would have if it were only 2mm thicker
-- Crappy keyboard -- maybe replacing the entire keyboard and trackpad with a wider emojiBar
-- of course battery life ;)
-- Timmy/Eddie/Philly's obnoxious intro presentation
-- Jonnie's Aluminium voiceover.
 
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