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New 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Kaby Lake and 32GB of Desktop-Class RAM Coming Later This Year

This will be great news if the price is not crazy. I have to say though, my new XPS 13 Developer Edition (Kaby Lake, 16GB, 512GB) has been wonderful. I love this thing to death. I hate turning on my Macbook with its awful keyboard and solitary port (have to for iOS builds of my apps).

Almost made me wonder if I should just switch over 100% to Ubuntu and have gotten the new XPS 15 instead. I'm going to wait and see how the next couple of years shake out. Microsoft's Surface Book 2 will also be out around the time of the refreshed Macbook Pros. Will be interesting to see if Microsoft continues to innovate on that product.
 
anzio said:
Wait for doomsayers to spin this into a disaster scenario.

"WHY NOT 128GB OF RAM AND 2 GPU's?"

FYI, the rumor is that this is set for 4th quarter release. Not really screwing existing customers if the release is one year after the previous generation.
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I was hoping for 3 Titan X - Desktop Class GPU from Nvidia, but i guess 2 will have to do... And btw , i still think 128GB of ram is not enough.. Give me 512.. LOL
 
BiteSizeThumb said:
I have yet to utilize the full 16gb of RAM... Sure 32gb will be cool, more of a bragging right.
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Yeah, YOU don't. I don't even have any VMs running right now, and I'm using 13GB, 2.5 swap. Let's fire up VMWare, I need that sometimes...

Interesting. It shows a couple gigs "free". But memory compression is going nuts, and the machine is now really slow. The mouse has frozen a few times.

32GB would be a good start. 64 would be better.
 
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bingeciren said:
I carry my own ATV3 which I bought it when the price was reduced to $70 with the introduction of the ATV4. I carry a short HDMI cable and a $10 HDMI to VGA adapter just in case. With this setup I can connect to any projector in any hotel room using their WiFi to do presentations. It is so much better than connecting my own computer directly to the projector because usually the connection point is not near to where I will be making the presentation.

I don't understand the fuss about Airplay not being available everywhere. Just bring your own. Is it a luxury to carry an $80 hardware which doubles as an entertainment device in your hotel room?
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Space. Then I prefer an adapter. Don't like to carry around a bulky AppleTV which doesn't nicely fit in a laptop bag. I have a MacBook Air
 
anzio said:
Wait for doomsayers to spin this into a disaster scenario.

"WHY NOT 128GB OF RAM AND 2 GPU's?"

FYI, the rumor is that this is set for 4th quarter release. Not really screwing existing customers if the release is one year after the previous generation.
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Even a year later it is not what most consumers can afford.

Maybe if your are Donnie and can spend $200M on a party …
 
BiteSizeThumb said:
I have yet to utilize the full 16gb of RAM... Sure 32gb will be cool, more of a bragging right.
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Works for you... not necessarily for everyone else. I replaced my 2013 15" rMBP w 16GB RAM with a maxed 2016 15" tbMBP and the same large Protools sessions I used to run on the old machine are now complaining about the 16GB of RAM on the new machine. YMMV.
 
Abazigal said:
And I choose to stay within the Apple ecosystem because that's what has worked for me and that's what will continue to work best for me.

Life is a bundle of compromises and my choice of computing devices is simply another exercise in compromise. Simply put, I compromise less with my Apple products compared to other alternatives.
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"and that's what will continue to work best for me." -- Well unless you have a crystal ball, that's not certain. Keep your eyes and mind open to new and better alternatives as they come along.
 
It can really go on and on...if and when Kabylake comes out many will say don't buy first year then that's 2 more yrs of waiting. lol
 
The current Macbook line is too icky for me to buy into. Especially at the insane pricing. Such a shame.
 
I'd be interested depending on the price. When I was using PixInsight and integrating about 320 images I ran out of memory on my 16GB MBP. Never saw that before but I was out of memory. So 32GB is interesting to me if the price isn't Apple-outrageous. Just don't know if I can do that keyboard, though. I've tried it and I just don't like it. Maybe they'll do a Gen 3 of it for this one? My 2013 keeps on chugging away, though. Maybe it'll last me long enough for there to be a MBP I want or if I'll do some other path.
 
RGPphotog said:
I hit the 16GB wall almost daily.
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And when you go over 16GB and the Mac pages out to that 3.1Gbps SSD, is it really such a huge problem?

Certainly RAM is much faster, and your active app should be using the RAM at all times, whereas background tasks get paged out. But still, this isn't the old spinner hard drive paging of yesteryear, where the computer would crawl. 3.1Gbps is extremely fast for an SSD, and thus paging is almost a non-issue.
 
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The problem is Apple's unhealthy obsession with thin. Just think of what it could have done with the form factor of the 2012-2015 15" - Apple most likely could have avoided the issues around battery, ports, keyboard, RAM, etc.

The wounds from the new MBs are entirely self-inflicted and unnecessary. As others have said, Apple has said to the power user that they don't matter to Apple any longer. And while that might help short-term, the corrosive effects of aiming at the masses long-term don't appear to have been considered.
 
wow!!

so glad I waited. I have been looking for a new laptop since 2007 and each time I hesitate and wait, the predictions of a better laptop are posted and I decide to wait it out.

:D
 
Kaby Lake will do wonders to normalise the battery inconsistencies, offer some speed bump over the skylake, and possible other additions.

Unfortunately, if that's late 2017, it's going to be significantly behind everyone else again, and priced far higher.

honestly though. anyone who CAN wait should probably wait.
 
smacrumon said:
The current Macbook line is too icky for me to buy into. Especially at the insane pricing. Such a shame.
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The pricing is what I don't like. Here in Australia we got hit with an exchange rate hike at the same time as the price rise, so it's a double whammy.

The baseline 13" is still reasonably priced, but to get a 15" with 16gb/512 is over $1000aud more than I got my late 2013 model for.

Until Intel brings its 6 core H Series Coffee Lake chips (rumored for late 2018) there are only going to be small increases in CPU speed anyways, so I've got another 2 year wait :/
 
MacRumors said:
Kuo also expects Apple to discount the 13-inch MacBook Pro with a standard row of function keys this year as that model gradually replaces the 13-inch MacBook Air in Apple's notebook lineup.
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I hope they'll be discounted. At the moment, the base 13" MBP is about $500 more expensive the the base 13" MBA. That's suite a bit of money. I work in a school district and each teacher has a 13" MBA. Since there are several hundred teachers & staff in the district, we're talking several hundred thousands of dollars we'd have to pay in addition the next time we upgrade.
 
LordVic said:
Kaby Lake will do wonders to normalise the battery inconsistencies, offer some speed bump over the skylake, and possible other additions.

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Nope. Sky lake brought the big power efficiency savings. Kabylake will improve 4K video handling but not much else. It's a very minor upgrade.
 
lowkey said:
The pricing is what I don't like. Here in Australia we got hit with an exchange rate hike at the same time as the price rise, so it's a double whammy.

The baseline 13" is still reasonably priced, but to get a 15" with 16gb/512 is over $1000aud more than I got my late 2013 model for.

Until Intel brings its 6 core H Series Coffee Lake chips (rumored for late 2018) there are only going to be small increases in CPU speed anyways, so I've got another 2 year wait :/
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Its the same here. The laptops is not a bad laptop. It's actually quite nice. I could live with USB-C. I don't care about the touchbar, it's neat and i'd probably be fine with it. Overall, GOOD laptop

But, the 15" base model (2.6ghz, 256gb, R.pro 450) STARTS at $2,999 Canadian. add Applecare for $379

And this base 15" Mac Pro costs $3,378. With 13% sales tax here, that means it's actually 3,817.14

AND that. is too damn expensive for this computer
 
tigres said:
I swear I read an article on Kaby Lake stating the laptop class would still not support 32gb ram.
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No.

Even the chips in 2016 15" models can support 64 GB RAM. See Intel's Ark.

But: Apple used LPDDR RAM to minimize power draw in order to use a 25% smaller battery so the 2016s could be made thinner. Stupid decision, IMO.
 
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