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But you're in an iPad related Thread where you posted "This is what Apple gives us", Followed by "Booring." Point being, your first post doesn't express exactly what you're telling me now and they come off it's totally two different things when you're referring to the iPad as boring.
Correct, because Samsung showed us innovation yesterday. And today Apple sho- Booooring!
 
Correct, because Samsung showed us innovation yesterday. And today Apple sho- Booooring!

I don't disagree that Samsung rolled out some nice products yesterday. But let's at least see what September/fall holds for Apple. Hopefully the iPhone 8 and the rumored 10.5 inch iPad will bring some nice changes.
 
I am getting confused now...
The other front page news mentioned the "New" 9.7 iPad teardown confirms it's basically an original iPad air.
But here it says it is "new".:eek:

Given that the internals are actually updated, is it still considered as "new" or "basically an original iPad air"?:confused:
They are reselling it as new.
 
I'm tempted to buy the new iPad. It looks like great value, and it would be my first iPad since buying an iPad 2 many years ago, which still gets used fairly regularly in our household.

However: The inability to have multiple users (and thus individual email accounts, safari password keychains, etc) is really holding me back. It makes the iPad hugely less useful in a family/household setting. I really hope Apple will finally sort this out in iOS 11.
I completely agree and would imagine that it's not hard for Apple to actually implement this. The fear in my mind is simply that there is zero motivation for Apple to do such a thing. They either don't prioritize this functionality, or look at the sales figures and see that iPads are some of the top selling premium tablets each and every year, so why change. This to me is a problem if you're stagnating development and progress. Look what happened to RIM/BB and Nokia. (Apple is obviously far from falling off a cliff, but still.)
 
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I'm tempted to buy the new iPad. It looks like great value, and it would be my first iPad since buying an iPad 2 many years ago, which still gets used fairly regularly in our household.

However: The inability to have multiple users (and thus individual email accounts, safari password keychains, etc) is really holding me back. It makes the iPad hugely less useful in a family/household setting. I really hope Apple will finally sort this out in iOS 11.

Why? Apple want's you to be a multiple iPad Household, no? ;)
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Apples logic: buy more than one ;)

.....and the award for Marketing goes to.......;)
 
Mine is supposed to arrive today. Nice to have the option of getting a brand new iPad for pretty cheap. I didn't need all the bells & whistles, so should suit my needs just fine. :)
 
I can't imagine people wanting to buy an iPad Air 2, just to have slower hardware and iOS updates end in late 2018.

The iPad (2017) will clearly have better battery life due to A9 + LPDDR4 + updated Wi-Fi.
 
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My ipad air 128 with cellular was about $900 if I remember correctly. This new ipad is basically the same ipad air with faster processor and more RAM? for $559 that sounds like a good deal. I'm not thinking about replacing mine, but this would be a contender if I were.
 
No doubt! But even if I wanted to spent $329 each on several iPads, it doesn't fit the casual way we use them in our house. I don't want to waste time hunting around the house for "my" iPad. I want to pick up the one that's already sitting on the kitchen counter!
But you wouldn't have to waste time hunting for it. Because it's yours. It would be where you left it. Unlike with your shared approach where you have to find it wherever the last user left it.

I used to have the exact mindset you have and really really wanted multi-user so that I could share my iPad with my kids. Then I caved and bought them each refurbed minis, and honestly, Apple is right. It's a personal device. The overall household experience works so much better when each person just has their own. I could never even consider one tablet with multiple users. The idea makes me cringe now.

I get our needs and budget may be different. But wait until these are in the refurb store for <$300. It really is the better way to "share."
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I can't imagine people wanting to buy an iPad Air 2, just to have slower hardware and iOS updates end in late 2018.
RAM would be the more likely requirement that ends iOS updates for these devices. The Air 2, 9.7 Pro, and this new iPad are all 2GB. I bet they all lose iOS update support at the same cycle.
 
Schiller to Cook last month...

Schiller - Hear me out, this is going to sound crazy, but hear me out.

If we got everyone to rebuy the iPhone 5S as new, what if we just re-sell the iPad Air 1, call it the iPad SE, err no, scratch that, ummm, the new iPad?

Cook - Wouldn't it make more sense to just rebadge the Air 2?

Schiller - naaaaah, Air 2 costs and extra $3 to produce, that is crazy talk! Air 1 it is!
 
I like my women thick, but not my iPads.

Also they should have just called it the iPad Air, because that's essentially what it is.
 
I actually have not been keeping up much with Samsung either. IIRC on the tablet side of things, they have the Tab S3 in the works, but that's only going to be available in the 10" or so size. No 8.4-8.5" sizes.



I'm still rocking an Ipar Air (1) I got about 1.5 years ago. 128 GB, no cell, only $400, but used. I'll be sticking with that, as this doesn't look that great for me. Unfortunately, it's as I suspected... on one hand, it's great that new iPads with decent (or "decent enough"?) hardware are available at affordable prices (I still remember how Ipads would set you back $600+ for the 2nd tier storage capacities). OTOH, you don't get much, if at all of any of 'the latest and greatest'.
I have the air 2 now but I was thinking even if I still had my original air I don't think this would be enough to make me upgrade.
 
This looked like a good deal until I remember Apples current approach to storage tiers on these devices.

In post Brexit UK unless you can make do with 32 gb of storage you are looking at £429 or £559 if you want cellular model. So much for a cheap iPad. :eek:

Before somebody says no Apple isn't responsible for Brexit but they are responsible for their staunch insistence on huge profit margins on everything and removing storage tiers to gouge a bit extra out of the customer for storage they don't really need.

They just can't grasp the idea that the value proposition of a tablet just isn't there at the price points they want to play at can they ? This has clearly been aimed at the US education market but are they going to get many takers given what your average Chromebook can be had for? I would be surprised.
 
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I don't disagree that Samsung rolled out some nice products yesterday. But let's at least see what September/fall holds for Apple. Hopefully the iPhone 8 and the rumored 10.5 inch iPad will bring some nice changes.
I agree to an extent. Let's see what Apple have up their sleeves. The phone sounds really nice but it will be too small for me if the rumours of it only having 5.1 inches of useable screen are true.
 
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I like my women thick, but not my iPads.

Also they should have just called it the iPad Air, because that's essentially what it is.

When the bezel-less tech from the iPad Pro 10.5" cascades down to iPad in 2018, there will be confusion.

None of the iPads deserve the Air name anymore.
 
Mine is supposed to arrive today. Nice to have the option of getting a brand new iPad for pretty cheap. I didn't need all the bells & whistles, so should suit my needs just fine. :)

It is nice to have the option of an affordable iPad with a speed increase if someone can accept it without the Pro features. I personally have no issue with the added thickness and at this price point, it's a good option in the iPad family line.
 
Apples logic: buy more than one ;)

That's exactly the same Apple "logic" that's convinced our school not to purchase any further iPads. These things needed to have separate accounts AND be integrated with Open-Directory based network home-folders ages ago. Students being forced to transfer documents back-and-forth via. WebDav is such a joke. Apple has done a terrible job integrating these devices with existing network solutions because they desperately want 1 device per student; something which simply isn't reality for far too many schools. As a result, our 90ish iPads get used as research-devices only; all real work is done on the computers and iPads are being phased-out as they fail or are broken.
 
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I'm tempted to buy the new iPad. It looks like great value, and it would be my first iPad since buying an iPad 2 many years ago, which still gets used fairly regularly in our household.

However: The inability to have multiple users (and thus individual email accounts, safari password keychains, etc) is really holding me back. It makes the iPad hugely less useful in a family/household setting. I really hope Apple will finally sort this out in iOS 11.

Can't agree more. The utility of the device is undermined when it is tied to only one user. Having to enable and disable permissions when a child wants to use it is too much of a hassle. The multiple user feature is already baked into macOS (Unix) so an iOS (which is also Unix / OS X -based) version of this wouldn't be too difficult for Apple to sort out.
 
According to Tim, everything old is new again. A picture of the upcoming iPhone 8:

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So after all the Samsung hype, here is what Apple gives us. Boooooring!

is that what you really think or are you just being a troll?? Of course this is not what apple is giving us in response to anything Samsung is doing....don't be silly. This is a simple retool of the bottom line. Do people not really understand this or are they perpetual complainers?? Strange
 
It is nice to have the option of an affordable iPad with a speed increase if someone can accept it without the Pro features. I personally have no issue with the added thickness and at this price point, it's a good option in the iPad family line.

yeah it's probably not any heavier than a literal book of the same size. A tiny bit more weight than high model doesn't bother me a bit … for that price.
 
The price of this new iPad makes it great for kids (bought 2 myself) and family members who just want to use it for casual consumption.

The vast majority of us here, including me are eagerly waiting for the pro updates.

I just don't get on with Android. Even tried the kids with Amazon Fire tablets but they kept coming back to my iPad. Can safely say my house hold is an Apple one lol.
 
When the bezel-less tech from the iPad Pro 10.5" cascades down to iPad in 2018, there will be confusion.

None of the iPads deserve the Air name anymore.
Agreed but the internals...same as iPad Air... I guess Apple had some old shells lying around lol.
 
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