But it's a fact nowadays. Samsung is more innovative than Apple. Samsung Dex is more innovative than all the things Apple did in last 4 years
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But it's a fact nowadays. Samsung is more innovative than Apple. Samsung Dex is more innovative than all the things Apple did in last 4 years
Ah, the ever present "facts" of the internet, different and wildly varying in interpretation, depending on who is citing them as such. According to such simplistic rationale, I could therefore refute your "fact", and make up my own, arbitrary conclusion about ANYTHING about which I so choose, cite it as "fact!" and you'd have NO grounds upon which to refute it, because my ego stated it IS FACT.
Ah, such titillating jollity of insanely poorly thought out reasoning, off with you, away, and SHOO!
Death and taxes, THEM is facts, dear friend.
Here are the facts for your perusal of Samsung phones in the last 4 years
Wireless charging
Curved Edge OLED
Iris scanners
Samsung Dex
Apple
No headphone jack
3D Touch
Apple is DELIGHTED Samsung has decided to adopt all this utterly useless pifflecake, and encourages them to continue the pursuance of not knowing what on EARTH useless crap to release next, and hopes to shamelessly poke subtle jabs at them at yearly intervals.
This ain't Star Trek, Samsung, this is real life. No one cares about Sci Fi dreams, but nice going - showing everyone how to FAIL, so they are under NO doubt as to what NOT to make, since you excel at making things fail SO much, it anually reaffirms MORE to the Apple customers that they made the right decision... SO, SOOOO much, therefore driving people HARD away from garbage-laden recycled plastic phones with bendy edges, into the open arms of Tim Cook et al.
Look, Apple are the Miele of phones; SIMPLE, understated, timeless, robust, elegant and just GET ON with what is required of them. Samsung? Well, this is another example of Samsung's ever present "what crap can we add to something that can't be reduced and simplified any further, to convince dumb schmucks that they're missing out on something INCREDIBLE?":
What IS this? Oh, it's a washing machine - I thought it was a spaceship for a sec...
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So are you going to prove my statement wrong with facts and examples? Or are you just gonna leave a horrible reply that's not even funny at all? That was bad, really bad.
I always find it comically ironic when people say Apple "needs to" do something like this or it’s "not innovating anymore" but then it turns out the result isn’t something most people end wanting, like Netbooks, or 3D, or phone keyboards or the android version of continuum.
Wait a minute, you failed to mention any innovative examples that Apple has recently brought to the table. Sure not every feature is going to be loved by everyone, but at least Samsung is making an effort. So again, what has Apple done recently that is great enough to make you have so much hate towards Samsung?Apple is DELIGHTED Samsung has decided to adopt all this utterly useless pifflecake, and encourages them to continue the pursuance of not knowing what on EARTH useless crap to release next, and hopes to shamelessly poke subtle jabs at them at yearly intervals.
This ain't Star Trek, Samsung, this is real life. No one cares about Sci Fi dreams, but nice going - showing everyone how to FAIL, so they are under NO doubt as to what NOT to make, since you excel at making things fail SO much, it anually reaffirms MORE to the Apple customers that they made the right decision... SO, SOOOO much, therefore driving people HARD away from garbage-laden recycled plastic phones with bendy edges, into the open arms of Tim Cook et al.
Look, Apple are the Miele of phones; SIMPLE, understated, timeless, robust, elegant and just GET ON with what is required of them. Samsung? Well, this is another example of Samsung's ever present "what crap can we add to something that can't be reduced and simplified any further, to convince dumb schmucks that they're missing out on something INCREDIBLE?":
What IS this? Oh, it's a washing machine - I thought it was a spaceship for a sec...
Thankfully Apple have never felt the need (incompetence, or desperation) to delegate design responsibility to the general public, nor to poll them for "ideas" for what/how to design and manufacture. They trail behind cautiously to allow the idiotic fads to fall flat on their faces, and for the stupidly obvious current obsessions to blow over, and then take whatever remains at the core of current tech, wait a little longer... nope, okay its still there and improving slowly... (just about) and then quietly work on trimming away all the fat and superfluous nonsense, turning it from specs and chipsets into a usable, inevitable, habitual day to day "must have", then releasing it to the dismay of the poor fellows who rushed out a primitive early variant because they were too impatient and/or without Apples vision.
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For me the iPhone 7 / Apple Watch / AirPods combo works so well it’s hard to imagine going back to wires. Actually I never will.
The huge difference is in the execution and follow through. Apple is not perfect, but the steady progression of things like HomeKit, Apple Watch, etc show commitment to taking something basic and incrementally improving it. That's meaningful innovation I appreciate and which I can get behind.
Samsung throws tech out there based on whether they think it will let them one-up Apple, rather than if it is genuinely useful for the end user. Letting me speak to a doctor online? Being able to see what's inside by fridge? A fingerprint sensor right beside the camera? Who comes up with such stuff, if not to tick off a spec list?
Samsung tries, but their motivation is all wrong. As long as Samsung remains obsessed with Apple, they can never be true to themselves and design the products that they want to design.
And as long as Samsung cannot be true to themselves, they are destined to stay forever in Apple's shadow.
I don't hate Samsung. I just find it amusing that even a company the size of Samsung spends its every waking moment obsessed with Apple.
Aside from designing the best four mobile processors on the market year after year.
Everyone seems to forget about this somehow. I don't know why.
3D Touch is more innovative than the above, at least Apple is not throwing in recycled chips. Dex is nothing innovative and the Dock thing has been around for 10 years.
Truthfully, somebody should ask you the exact same question, except towards Apple. Because all you've done is manage to post deflections of dated technology and poorly executed responses of what you consider "Innovation." Problem is is that you fail to see both sides of any argument, and you feel your own argument should be validated by everybody else in here. That's not how it works.
Apple is DELIGHTED Samsung has decided to adopt all this utterly useless pifflecake, and encourages them to continue the pursuance of not knowing what on EARTH useless crap to release next, and hopes to shamelessly poke subtle jabs at them at yearly intervals.
This ain't Star Trek, Samsung, this is real life. No one cares about Sci Fi dreams, but nice going - showing everyone how to FAIL, so they are under NO doubt as to what NOT to make, since you excel at making things fail SO much, it anually reaffirms MORE to the Apple customers that they made the right decision... SO, SOOOO much, therefore driving people HARD away from garbage-laden recycled plastic phones with bendy edges, into the open arms of Tim Cook et al.
Look, Apple are the Miele of phones; SIMPLE, understated, timeless, robust, elegant and just GET ON with what is required of them. Samsung? Well, this is another example of Samsung's ever present "what crap can we add to something that can't be reduced and simplified any further, to convince dumb schmucks that they're missing out on something INCREDIBLE?":
What IS this? Oh, it's a washing machine - I thought it was a spaceship for a sec...
lol I hope you realise you just called the next iPhone a "pifflecake" because everything I said is rumored to be on the next iPhone. Apple is rumored to be copying those "Failures" with the curved edge OLED
Whats innovation is making a 6.2 inch bezel free phone almost the same size as a 7 plus which has huge bezels and throwing in a dock which enables the phone to be an actual computer.
And what you call Star Trek? Are you refering to VR because Tim Cook actually called VR the next big thing . About that "Failure" part. Those failures are the only ones making money in the Android world and supply parts and are potentially the people making the OLED displays of the next iPhone. So you are going to using those "failure's" parts when you get the new iPhone.
And I commend Samsung for making 64GB as the standard storage option for the S8 and not load up the device with a "garbage" 750P LCD display( Is this 2013? Scratch that. Make it 2009. Samsung was on 1080P in 2013) and charge 700 bucks for it( and thats 32GB storage as well). The world most valuable company cant give 64GB base storage while their "failure" competitors are. To hell with customer satisfaction. Profit margins ftw
I have used Samsung washing machines and dont have any issues with them. Lasted for years with no issues
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I turned off 3D Touch because not all apps supported it and its so innovative I forget to use it. In other news S8 owners just turned their S8 into a computer supporting full fledged MS office with the Dex while I am still figuring out how to download .exe files on my iPhone
The irony when Apple just came out with a recycled tablet. And nothing on the S8 is recycled btw. The S8 is the most innovative phone on the market chock full of features and unlike a certain fruit company doesnt charge over 1K for getting a curved OLED display. By Apple's standards if they released such a phone it would cost over 2K. Apple would have charged over 200 just for the dock. And the dock is coming to the iPhone by 2022 or so. With Microsoft, Google and Samsung trying to turn their phones into computers Apple is going to have to as well
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There's innovation and then there's meaningful innovation.
Let's look back here in six months and see if anyone even remembers there was a feature called Dex, much less uses it.
I dont deny that the tech isnt there yet but its undeniably the future of smartphone computing. Both Microsoft and Samsung have the same vision. Microsoft is trying to get Windows to run on ARM. Imagine a full operating system on your phone ready to run desktop apps the moment you attach to a dock.Its clearly difficult to get it to run which is why its taking time. Samsung is facing the opposite problem. Trying to get Android to run on a desktop is a challenge. But nevertheless thats the foundation of how innovation begins. Its a very great idea and I foresee it wont be long before the phones become actual computers.
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Its going to be funny this time around when Apple launches the Edition with a curved OLED display,wireless charging and a glass back. Suddenly those features will become cool once Apple does them
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Thats nothing great. Intel does the same thing on desktops. Their processors are consistently superior to AMD. Same goes for NVIDIA.
Smartphones already are the equivalent of actual computers in terms of capabilities and processing power. I feel that the emphasis should be on bringing desktop apps to mobile so that people can get more done on their smartphones, rather than the other way around.
I am sorry, I simply don't see the utility or the viability of docking a phone to a monitor to get a desktop setup. If you ask me, I do feel that the tech is there. The problem is getting the user experience right so that people will have an incentive to want to use it over simply providing them with a dedicated workstation. However I look at it, a laptop is simply more versatile and convenient. I can work on my laptop or iPad regardless of where I am. I don't need to be tethered to a desk, nor do I need any extra peripherals.
Continuum / DEX is dead in the water.
It is just to help you understand what a game changer is. It does not have to belong to the mobile device world to be relevant.
So, where do you see the game changing in your examples ? You seem to be pretty excited by innovations which still have a very limited impact... So for now it is just a deep faith in Samsung.
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You can use whatever features you want. Innovations in apps with 3dt are coming fast and furiously making interactions with my iPhone quick and efficient.
In other news rather than carry a dock and emulation software I can carry around my MacBook run windows if I need to and actually run the real o/s. Dex is just rehashed ideas that have failed previously.
As far as the next iPhone, call it what you want Timmy doesn't care, he'll be laughing all the way to the bank. "Piffkecake" got a good one out ifvtgat.
As far as the washing machines hope yours doesn't explode; they are recalled you know.
What kinda chump reads, analyses and believes "rumours"? What a waste of energy, and a guarantee to willingly have yourselves led up the garden path... all because you're impatient, and arrogant "pundits" and "journalists" are each convinced that they KNOW what's coming up.
Lol!
That is Intel's core though, its Apple's well...hobby I guess, and they are almost making a mockery of the competition.
Not just the A Series either, which is among the best in its class, we've got the wireless W chip, the M series motion co-processor, the low power S series for the watch and the T series which makes an appearance in the MBP, driving the TouchID.
It baffles me how all of this is so overlooked and under appreciated.
Look around. Everyone is disappointed with Apple recently in case you cant tell by the comments. Im not sure why Apple fans get mad when someone calls them out. Samsung is clearly pushing forward while Apple hasn't shown us much recently. Don't take it personally.
For now it is a better bet to wait for the next iteration, I have heard they would be unlocked with a photo of your face.
Whose disappointed in Apple? 20 people on an Internet forum. Or the customers who bought $75b of services and goods last quarter? Let's not pretend anyone speaks for the masses, this is not personal, its reality.
Note: I can't claim credit for this response. I saw it made on another forum and felt it made a ton of sense, so I had it saved. If you are the original poster, feel free to speak up. I am not trying to "win points" by reproducing this argument, so to speak. Just calling it as I see it.
I am not mad. I just don't feel Apple is "getting complacent and losing their way" as the popular narrative would have it portrayed.
There's a broader point to be made about the differences between Apple then and now. Whether it should be interpreted as Apple "losing their way" is a matter of perspective.
The simple fact of the matter is that Apple is a fundamentally different company than it used to be. The company can't help it. It's like if you went from paycheck-to-paycheck living, crashing on friend's couches, to a million-dollar a year job. You can claim to be the same person inside, but you're not. When your relationship with your surroundings changes dramatically, that filters down into your core, and it changes you. You can't help it, and you can't control it.
15 years ago, Apple was a company that living on the edge, metaphorically couch surfing. Its existence buoyed by a small population of die-hard fans that looked to it for technology and aesthetic leadership. It had a flock. That was its sustenance. That core group that was willing to follow where it led. Its investor pool was also similar - believers (and a few long-play speculators). You don't hold shares in a company teetering on the edge of non-existence unless you truly believe in it.
When the vast majority of the population that drives your existence are true believers, it gives you flexibility to bring that population with you as you navigate your challenges. If that population is small, then the small revenue limits your options, but their strong loyalty also lets you do things. You can change technology stacks quickly (OS9 => OSX). You can kill off entire classes of partnerships (clones). The population backs you, because they believe. Back in the late 90s, Mac users held a special pride. It took a certain about of personal conviction to stand the tide against "the default". You suffered, and struggled to be a mac user in the face of lack of software choice, and lack of hardware compatibility.. because it was worth it, and you "were a mac user”.
The proportion of Apple's userbase today that are true believers is far smaller. Likewise for their investor base. The current user base and investor loyalty is not based on conviction, or a personal identity-based affiliation
The current user base and investor loyalty is far more grounded in pragmatic self interest. For this user base, it’s a combination of their understanding of Apple products as “good products” and “cool products”, their understanding of the Apple brand as a trustworthy, fashionable, quality, desirable brand. For investors, it’s the typical investor mix - some mix of growth-oriented investment and revenue-oriented (i.e. dividend-oriented) investment.
This is the kind of loyalty most companies have to work with. It’s not as strong as the kind of identity and conviction-based loyalty that sustained the company through it’s dark days.
The problem is that this new, more pragmatically loyal user base and investor base is also what gives Apple its new identity as the most successful company in the world. If Apple’s product quality takes a stumble, some significant chunk of this user base moves on. If Apple’s brand is perceived as less fashionable than it used to be, or less fashionable than it used to be, some significant chunk of that user base moves on.
The user and investor base isn’t a flock anymore. It can’t “be led” like it used to. The company that could forge ahead with drastic decisions, relatively assured that its user base would follow, cannot make that assumption anymore.
Instead of leading a flock, it now has to cater to an audience. This is a drastically different relationship.
Their relationship with shareholders is likewise different. In this very forum, back in the 90s, people used to argue that Apple should just cash in the $4 billion they had in the bank, return it to investors, as that would be a bigger value than forging ahead with their products. Apple’s investors could certainly have forced that outcome, but they didn’t. They hung on, through dwindling marketshare and sales numbers, because they believed in the company.
Are the bulk of shareholders today just as likely to stick with them as those core shareholders from yore? If profits start dropping.. is this new shareholder population as willing to just go along with it? Or are they going to start thirstily eyeing those juicy hundreds of billion dollars sitting in the bank? How much would it take for this new population of shareholders to decide “hey, it was a good ride, let’s force the Apple directors to squeeze some of that juice out for us”?
In this new reality, that original core user and investor base.. those true believers.. they don’t matter anymore. They got to enjoy the ride from the start, but now their secluded island has been inundated by a population of visitors that outnumbers them by a couple of orders of magnitude.
This new population sets the tone for what kind of company Apple will be, because they have the power in this new relationship.
Has Apple “lost its way”? Apple will slowly transition into a much more traditional company, and its behaviour will start to match those of a traditional company’s behaviour. If you want to consider that as them “losing their way”, then yeah.
I wouldn’t call it “losing their way”, though. Circumstances changed, and the company changed, and that’s just the way she goes.