Well, we were talking about tablets and phones here so yeah. I understand not everyone will love every new feature but again, give me some of your examples that Apple has brought recently. Airpods? Dual camera that makes a fake bokeh effect? Stickers in messages? Its funny how people actually defend this and bash other companies innovations.
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Hey, if stickers, airpods and watchbands is your thing, then thats great! But don't be mad because some people want more. It's not your fault.
Why would I be mad that Apple record breaking revenue last quarter was $75b?
Don't be mad that Apple isn't following your armchair CEO "suggestions". I'm sure it's a piece of cake to lead a corporation into record breaking territory quarter after quarter...just about anyone can do it.
None of my apps support it in a useful way. So I don't see this fast and furious innovatio9n you speak off. 3DT the AW app gives me an option to pair AW. That's it. Is this a joke?
While you lug around those bricks I am carrying the dock around,and considering the amount of dongles and adapters an iOS/MacOS user needs, I am not bothered by carrying a single dock around. Unlike thei Phone it even uses the actual full version of MS office.Oh and it can download exe files
What makes you think those 2 disastrous quarters wont make a comeback in the future?
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My apps support 3dt in a way that is meaningful for me, so perhaps I'm more keen on the innovation.
At least we can agree we each have our own definition of innovation.
Me. And in case you didn't notice the name of the site you are on is "Macrumors". So with you as an exception all the chumps on this site do what you just state
Didn't turn out to be a waste of energy for me because both the iPhone 6 and 6s turned out the same as rumors indicated.I will eat my hat if curved edge OLED,wireless charging and a new design isn't on one of the iPhones. Of course its gonna cost a fortune
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What makes you think Samsung won't make a comeback with exploding phones? Those disastrous quarters really weren't.
Why are you focusing on the phones exploding? What about finances? Wasn't there a record breaking quarter when the Note 7 exploded? I am sure other Android companies are begging to have a quarter Samsung had with its exploding Note 7. OTOH the 6s flopped without any incident lol.
So discussing the entirety of Samsung when the mobile division lost billions? Samsung should just jettison it, for all their market share profits are abysmal. But growth for prior quarters at Samsung nonetheless was minimal.
6s was a smashing success and it spanked the competition into submission. Lol.
I don't see game changing innovation in the mobile world since the iPad, from Apple, Samsung, or any other manufacturer... that is why I don't understand why you blame Apple and in the same time praise Samsung for its game changing true innovation...
So comparing the mobile division of Samsung to Apple is a fair comparison?
Only in your definition can declining sales be a smashing success. Rationally we view declining sales as a bad thing
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If the foundation is laid why not? Jobs liad the foundation for those quarters
SO let's compare iPhone sales with galaxy sales.
Only in your definition can yoy record breaking revenue be considered disastrous.
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I'd like to see armchair ceos do the same.
Galaxy sales are lesser but the sales of the S7 and S7 Edge broke records. The 6s was the reason for Apple's first 2 down quarters in a decade
So there weren't 2 down quarters?
Microsoft posted record profits under Nadella and he didn't do anything all that great tbh. Ballmer sunk the company in mobile with a2% market share and Nadella finished the job by bringing it below 1. The reason for Microsoft and Windows current position is Bill Gates and no one will ever change that. Tim Cook is the new Ballmer
They broke samsungs records not apples records or apples profits or year over year record breaking revenue for Apple. Only a deflection talking about two quarters after 6 years of record breaking profits for Apple in their mobile phone business.
Part of record earnings for the year.
Now we're discussing Microsoft whose mobile phone business is nil? And wait until you see timmys bonus this year, yeah Apple is doomed. The reason Apple is the most valuable company is due to Timmy and no one will change that.
iPhone + apple watch + AirPods
iPad pro + apple pencil + apple tv (love it as a teacher in the classroom)
Yes, these innovations may not sound as sexy as being able to turn your phone into a desktop, but they are meaningful innovations which I am using every day to great effect, and it all adds up. Every day in the classroom, my iPad is mirrored to my apple tv and I annotate on my documents with the apple pencil, which offers a sublime writing experience. The best headphones are the ones I have on me, and I love that my AirPods are so convenient and portable. My apple watch is my remote for podcasts and music, plus I use apple pay on it extensively, not to mention notifications and the odd app here and there.
Apple has complete control over their hardware, software and services and it shows in how they are able to make their products all work together in a manner that no other competitor can replicate.
And in finances we talk relatives not absolutes. We all know Apple's business is greater than Samsung. Thanks for telling me that. And its not a deflection talking about those down quarters because because it indicates there are cracks in the structure. The building is still in one piece but the cracks are there
That doesn't diminish the lowest operating profit margin in a decade or their significance thereof.
Incorrect. The reason Apple is the most valuable company is thanks to iPhone and we all know who created the iPhone.
Apple is running out of ideas as they are ripping off Android which in itself is running out of ideas. Its all over for smartphones unless they turn into computers like I mentioned.They will eliminate bezels. They may remove physical buttons on the sides and make a pure glass slab but that's almost all the potential that remains. And considering there hasn't been an innovation in Apple since the iPhone yes his bonus is in trouble.
And this doesn't change the fact that he suffered a paycut last year which means all performance targets missed and confirms that the 6s underperformed by Apple's internal standards. Embarassing.
And my prediction is Apple will be in super cycle this year thanks to the Edition and that OLED display. Many OLED fanatics like me on Android are likely to switch just for that feature but its back to the bad quarters the year after with the S Edition (Unless they make it cheaper which they wont)
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There is no way I will be able to survive in my business environment on just an iPad.iOS cant download files it cant recognize and custom program file formats cant be downloaded on it. In fact the idea sounds too silly to even attempt it. My Bose wired headphones have better audio quality than the AirPods
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Apple is stronger than ever. The only cracks aren't in apples foundation, it's in the competitions.
It totally nullifies it.
Absolutely wrong. Apple is the most valuable company due to Timmy. Period.
Doesn't matter what you think. Have you seen apples financials? While android manufacturers are copying each other left, right and center, Apple is innovating away and customers can't get enough of their products. Dex is dead, will be another failed attempt at doing something already done.
Timmy is going to get a whopping bonus this year due to last years fiscal record breaker. Dont worry timmy will be fine. At least apples mobile division didn't lose billions and billions. Embarrassing for the competition.
And nobody is asking you to. Even as we speak now, I just finished editing a presentation on my 27" iMac. I am a long way from being able to do everything on an iPad, but that doesn't mean an iPad is useless to me. I still get a fair amount of work done on it, and there are scenarios where a tablet is simply a more suitable form factor for me compared to a laptop or desktop, and I feel it is ridiculous to dismiss its utility outright just because there are still tasks I can't do (or can't do as well) on a tablet.
I am not going to get into the whole "wired headphones have better sound quality than wireless headphones" debate. I too own two sets of wired headphones, and I don't deny that their sound quality knocks the AirPods out of the park. Suffice to say that sound quality is not the be-all and end-all of what makes a great pair of headphones. There are other factors as well, such as convenience and ease-of-use. I have made my choice, and I choose portability and convenience over sound quality.
The quarters disagree
It doesn't because it is in fact the lowest
Apple wouldn't be anywhere close to where they are without iPhone. Period
Its all a ripoff of what Android has already done. And what do other Androids copying each other have to do with this. When a company like Apple copies they are not in fault for doing the same thing
Timmy will be fine but in the future Apple wont be unless they come out with another innovative product
Do you want to place bets on how Samsung's mobile arm is going to fare this year?. I foresee a record breaker.Nice to see you are so worried about a company the size of Samsung losing billions over a recall.I assure you the directors or the shareholders are not losing their sleep over that recall
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The yoy disagrees with h you.
Totally nullifies your "argument".
Apple wouldn't be most valuable company without Timmy because he did something jobs wouldn't have and it paid off for Apple big time.
Android falls over itself copying each other not Apple.
Their current financials disagree.
I assure you samsungs board of directors and shareholders lost plenty of sleep what with the exploding washing
Machines and phones.
I assure you apples' b.o.d. and shareholders are sleeping like a baby.
Basically you have no counter to the bear quarters or the lowest operating margins and are deflecting to totally unrelated measures. The cracks are there because the quarters underperformed. Deflecting to year on year or comparing with 4 years ago isnt going to change the facts
Apple became the most valuable company because people buy iPhones in droves and customers wouldnt be able to buy an iPhone if Jobs didnt have the foresight to come up with an iPhone
The only relevant Apple competitor I am seeing is Samsung. LG has bootloop. Pixel isnt even sold worldwide and HTC is almost dead. Sony is busy showing Android manufacturers how NOT to make a phone while One Plus and the other manufacturers are fighting for the budget scraps with no profits. The only unqiue manufacturer on Android is Samsung and even Google is afraid of Samsung.
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Basically you have no counter to the total worth of Apple, last years record breaking quarter and the stock price rally. Deflecting to two quarters out of 24 is pure nonsense.
Apple became the most valuable company because Timmy had the foresight to release a product jobs wouldn't have.
So oppo isn't a competitor even though you have compared iPhone and 3T in the past? Samsung should be afraid of oppo, 90% of the phone at half the price.
No they are not, the company is obviously slipping and the managers are probably taking sleeping powder.
Apples board of directors however is toasting their own success.
Those quarters are significant because they were the first time iPhone sales were shown to waver. Meaning they showed even the iPhone fortress Apple has built for itself isn't impervious
Jobs created that product line. Without that product line Timmy wouldn't have foresight to release anything
Everyone on Android is losing money except Samsung. Samsung can crush those companies easily. No one who buys above $600 goes for Oppo. And Oppo and One Plus have already destroyed Samsung at lower price points but Samsung doesn't care (Ironically the One Plus OLED is made by Samsung) because they money they make is in the high end. They couldn't care less for the table scraps.
I said One Plus has more features than an iPhone which is a fact. One Plus does not have more features than Samsung
I am pretty sure the BOD of Samsung are toasting each other as they just secured the sole supplier status of Apple's OLED panel and add on top the record breakers the S8 and Note 8 are going generate(thanks to offering similar hardware to iPhone Edition at a lower price point) and Samsung is well on its way to a stunner this year as they continue to silence critics who take jabs at their washing machines and Note 7.