Go troll somewhere else while the adults discuss.
An adult would know the definition of unusable. The troll would be the person saying that 32GB of storage is unusable when most people in the world are using less then that.
Go troll somewhere else while the adults discuss.
I don't understand how you people can be upset that they increased the price. This thing is a beast: Laptop class processor, 4GB of RAM, incredible graphics, Apple Pencil support, smart connector, 12mp camera with 4k (that is the rumor I'm most unsure about), and four speakers. At $599, that's a deal and I'll take that any day.
What I wonder is whether or not the 128GB model will be $699 or $749. But considering my iPad Air 2 128GB cost $699, I wouldn't mind spending $50 more for a powerhouse machine. Although I bet they discontinue the 128GB iPad Air 2 model.
A couple movies. Some songs. Some photos. Some apps. 32gb is paltry. It's the new 16gb but Apple doesn't even see that 16gb isn't close to being enough.
Queue all the angered posts...if you don't like it, don't buy it. Pretty simple.
The millions of people that buy it.Who pays full price for an ipad anyways?
I sincerely hope you're right. iOS 9 was a half baked attempt to give more attention to iPad. Tons of apps people use daily on iPads still have NO SPLIT SCREEN , including some of Apple's own apps. Also there are still many apps that dont utilize the full power of the A8X let alone the A9X.But that's all software. I have an iPP and nothing right now is taxing this hardware. We've heard next to nothing about iOS 10. I have a strong feeling iOS 10 improvements will focus a lot on iPP. This isn't just a niche one off device that Apple just threw out there for the hell of it. This is the iPad future to them. Software will follow.
Don't see what the complaints are about. I actually think it's great - $100 more gets double the storage, and all the other upgrades.
Even worse, LTE still costs $130 more for about 10 cents worth of hardware.
I still don't know why they don't make all of them LTE capable.
Hey man I'm just as annoyed as anyone else when apps don't support split screen or PIP (yes I'm looking at you Google). Apple has to know it's software is lagging behind it's hardware at this point. I'm hopeful because I think the current executive team is less dogmatic than Jpbs and Forstall were and are willing to incorporate things we never thought Apple would, like extensions, 3rd party keyboards etc. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Xcode for iPad at WWDC. I think that would get louder applause than Swift going open source did.I sincerely hope you're right. iOS 9 was a half baked attempt to give more attention to iPad. Tons of apps people use daily on iPads still have NO SPLIT SCREEN , including some of Apple's own apps. Also there are still many apps that dont utilize the full power of the A8X let alone the A9X.
I have a hard time believing that – of all companys – Apple will really put 4GB in the 32GB model like in their current big-sized flagship model, the "real" iPad Pro. I could imagine that the 9,7" 32GB model has 2GB RAM and only the 9,7" 128GB model also gets the 4GB – and that Apple will make the price difference between both even bigger so that even your higher guess of $749 might not buy the new 128GB model. But I could be wrong with that. We'll know more next week.
EDIT: After having a second thought – the RAM is directly included into the AX chip, correct? If yes, both models probably will have the same RAM, of course, as I imagine they get the same processor.
And those people were b!tching up a storm when iOS 8 came out saying they didn't even have enough storage to upgrade. It was a very hot topic. Also this a pro device. Average consumers wont be getting this. The whole case and point of why many are ticked off here.An adult would know the definition of unusable. The troll would be the person saying that 32GB of storage is unusable when most people in the world are using less then that.
I'm not surprised but still disappointed.
No doubt Apple will be increasing its average profit per unit with this move.
Let's look at the main changes:
All those don't justify the Pro branding and the $100 extra. It's stuff you should expect from an Air 2 -> Air 3 update (which is an expectional 2-year cycle, so it's normal to have slightly higher expectations too).
- The A9X is nice, but that's what a non-Pro iPad would have had either way if they had kept their previous pattern. (e.g. if Apple had gone with a $499 iPad Air 3, it still would have had an A9X). In fact, their flagship 9.7" iPad's chip is kind of weaker than before (relative to time), considering the Air 1 and Air 2 were released with a brand new architecture, whereas this iPad Pro will use a 6-month old architecture that will probably be surpassed by the iPhone 7's A10 in another 6 months.
- Having 4 speakers is nice, but that doesn't justify a price increase. Small speakers like those are dirt cheap.
- An increase to 32GB for the base model is nice, but again, doesn't justify a price increase. 16GB has been the norm ever since the first iPad was released in 2010. 32GB of NAND storage in 2016 probably isn't more expensive than 16GB in 2010. iPhones have seen their base capacity increase over the years (4 to 8 to 16) without a price increase. Same for iPods and Macs.
So really, what justifies the Pro branding and associated $100 increase? 2 other main changes:
The thing is, to actually use those capabilities, you need to buy high-margin accessories sold separately. So Apple was going to increase their average profit per iPad sold either way, regardless of a price increase for the iPad itself.
- Smart Connector
- Apple Pencil support
The iPad also had various reductions in component costs over time (e.g. newer iPads having smaller batteries and enclosures than older ones) that never resulted in any price decrease.
Apple is getting really agressive about increasing its profits. Between this, the price of the 12.6" iPad Pro and its accessories, and the price of the new Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad, I'm getting worried a little.
Just convert dollar to sterling. That's the UK price.
Run out of ideas? Are we watching the same company?
You're right that the Air 2 is a heck of a machine. But I'm thinking a little big longer-term. I'm hoping that companies like Adobe are working on a version of Lightroom for the Pro that lets you directly import RAW files—something it can't do now. You can import them to your Mac and sync low-res RAW proxies to the iPad. But you can't dump straight to it, and it needs that horsepower to work on higher-megapixel images or at least to convert them for lag-free use.Put an Air 2 and iPad Pro side by side and the speed difference is almost ZERO. Too many apps are coded to run on old hardware and so many still don't take full advantage of the iPad screen and split screen , even Apples own apps! And there are even performance hiccups on the Pro. Throwing more hardware at iOS means NOTHING now.
The only thing this will do is sell more Air 2 devices.
I figured the price would go up a little like this, however I hope for Apple's sake it's not because they're finally starting to add 32 gb baseline options for their products and instead because this iPad will be considered a Pro product. They should've done that ages ago, and now to add insult to injury they're going to charge us extra for it. I love Apple but that's actually a little ridiculous.
This may come as a shock, but plenty of people get work done using apps you don't consider as "pro".What makes it pro? Can you get paid to play angry birds? This is not a professional device. You can't run OSX or any real applications like Photoshop etc.
I'm not surprised but still disappointed.
No doubt Apple will be increasing its average profit per unit with this move.
Let's look at the main changes:
All those don't justify the Pro branding and the $100 extra. It's stuff you should expect from an Air 2 -> Air 3 update (which is an expectional 2-year cycle, so it's normal to have slightly higher expectations too).
- The A9X is nice, but that's what a non-Pro iPad would have had either way if they had kept their previous pattern. (e.g. if Apple had gone with a $499 iPad Air 3, it still would have had an A9X). In fact, their flagship 9.7" iPad's chip is kind of weaker than before (relative to time), considering the Air 1 and Air 2 were released with a brand new architecture, whereas this iPad Pro will use a 6-month old architecture that will probably be surpassed by the iPhone 7's A10 in another 6 months.
- Having 4 speakers is nice, but that doesn't justify a price increase. Small speakers like those are dirt cheap.
- An increase to 32GB for the base model is nice, but again, doesn't justify a price increase. 16GB has been the norm ever since the first iPad was released in 2010. 32GB of NAND storage in 2016 probably isn't more expensive than 16GB in 2010. iPhones have seen their base capacity increase over the years (4 to 8 to 16) without a price increase. Same for iPods and Macs.
So really, what justifies the Pro branding and associated $100 increase? 2 other main changes:
The thing is, to actually use those capabilities, you need to buy high-margin accessories sold separately. So Apple was going to increase their average profit per iPad sold either way, regardless of a price increase for the iPad itself.
- Smart Connector
- Apple Pencil support
The iPad also had various reductions in component costs over time (e.g. newer iPads having smaller batteries and enclosures than older ones) that never resulted in any price decrease.
Apple is getting really agressive about increasing its profits. Between this, the price of the 12.6" iPad Pro and its accessories, and the price of the new Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad, I'm getting worried a little.