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I really wonder you haven’t noticed it yet, but the fact is that iPhones SE typically are the iPhones of the prior generation to the current one with updated internals. So my guess is that next SE will be a XS (5.8 screen, w/regular notch, w/just 2 cameras) with other internals updated. It can’t be an updated XR or 11 because if that were the case, as both of them are 6.1 screens, would cannibalize the current iPhone 12.

You may want to save my comment for the moment when it’s launched so you can verify what I am assuring. 😉


Edit: I think I know how will be the next SE, but I’m not sure if it will be launched on 2021 or until 2022. That’s still uncertain to me.

I can't understand why the iPhone 12 mini didn't become the 'new' SE. It surely would've made more sense to sell a smaller phone as a budget product - especially in marketing terms.

They will not be new SE this year. It took years to update the last one.

I'm interested in the new SE. Hope it's (a) not OLED, (b) has squared edges, (c) has touch ID.

I was just thinking about this. The battery and screen are smaller, so it makes sense to me that it becomes the SE. "Small edition" since "Special" doesn't really apply.

I would much prefer to get an updated 4.7in iPhone SE with home button and bezels, 4gb ram and current tech (cpu, bluetooth, wifi, staying with 4G is fine, LCD screen is fine) than the the iPhone 12 Mini.

So I hope Apple keeps making the iPhone SE 4.7in in the future.
 
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I thought the latest rumor was that it would be based on the iPhone 11 with LCD but have touch ID integrated into the power button a la the iPad Air, instead of face ID.
I really don’t think next SE will be based on the 11, since 11 is a 6.1 screen iPhone. Now, typically all SE have had internal updates, so a SE with a 6.1 screen iPhone with internal updates would cannibalize current 12. So my guess is that next SE will be based on the iPhone XS and yes with LCD to achieve minimum costs.
 
Can Apple make sure that if you buy these Air pods no music that uses the N word will be played through them? How will Apple make sure only content they approve will be played through them? If they can not, then they should not sell them.
 
My prediction is that the SE plus will be the XR with an A14 chip and Touch ID on the power button (instead of the TrueDepth camera system for Face ID), and it will be £499. If all this is true, I’m upgrading early from my 2nd gen SE (having recently bought the Air 4 I love the full screen gesture controls and the home button feels clunky in comparison).
 
They just released the current SE last year. It took them 4 years to update the previous SE (2016-2020).
I respect your believing, but that’s not a solid argument. Have you realized that SE iPhones are actually based on the prior generation iPhone? In this case, it would be the XS with internal updates to avoid cannibalization. 😉
 
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If the iPhone SE Plus launches with a physical home button, that’s huge news. There’s a lot of users out there who want a larger phone, but at a more sensible price level with the physical home button for those who don’t want touch ID. I remember this was rumored at least over a year ago, and I have a feeling it’s about to come to fruition.
Definitely NO way it will happen before the launch of the next iPhone 13 (12S).
 
My prediction is that the SE plus will be the XR with an A14 chip and Touch ID on the power button (instead of the TrueDepth camera system for Face ID), and it will be £499. If all this is true, I’m upgrading early from my 2nd gen SE (having recently bought the Air 4 I love the full screen gesture controls and the home button feels clunky in comparison).
I really don’t think next SE will be based on the XR, since XR is a 6.1 screen iPhone. Now, typically all SE have had internal updates, so a XR with a 6.1 screen iPhone with internal updates for sure would cannibalize current 12. So my guess is that next SE will be based on the iPhone XS and yes very likely with the A14 chip or the current one for the time it will be launched.
 
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I respect your believing, but that’s not a solid argument. Have you realized that SE iPhones are actually based on the prior generation iPhone? In this case, it would be the XS with internal updates to avoid cannibalization. 😉
I don't think you even understand what I'm trying to say.
 
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I can see this happening for a few reasons. I think there is to many models at the lower end of their phone lineup. The SE sits alone, but then you have the XR and the 11. Almost the same phone separated by just $100. But, the 11 is probably taking some sales from the 12. And, the XR is getting a little old and the naming is from their line 3 generations ago. So, I agree with some others:
-iphone 11 is gone to make a more clear gap between the new phones and the SE's. With it having 2 camera, lower price tag, it's really a strong option to not getting the regular 12's.
-XR gets a internal refresh, get's the SE name with maybe the + tag. Not sure about face or button, but, either makes sense. I could see it keeping the face recognition for those that want it and to bring that tech to the lower end of their line.

That way they have a clean 2 phone lines: SE line with 2 sizes, the affordable iphone then the 12 line that is the latest model.

Guess well see.
 
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So you don’t think there will be another SE until 2024?
Didn’t say that- just that 2021 is too soon. I don’t see Apple updating the SE yearly. If I had to guess, they might update it in 2022 and give it a full screen design with the notch. I would be shocked if they updated it this year.
 
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I really wonder you haven’t noticed it yet, but the fact is that iPhones SE typically are the iPhones of the prior generation to the current one with updated internals. So my guess is that next SE will be a XS (5.8 screen, w/regular notch, w/just 2 cameras) with other internals updated. It can’t be an updated XR or 11 because if that were the case, as both of them are 6.1 screens, would cannibalize the current iPhone 12.

You may want to save my comment for the moment when it’s launched so you can verify what I am assuring. 😉
I disagree. It's already been long rumored that Apple is releasing a 5.5" SE modeled after the 6/7/8 plus. That's the phone they're probably talking about.
 
I really don't get the point of an iPhone SE plus that is the same form factor as the older 6,7,8 Plus size phones. To me, the appeal of the SE is:
  • Pocket-ability
  • One-Handed Operation
  • Good Hardware at a Great Value
To me, the iPhone 12 Mini is more the form factor that I would like to see in the next SE. Of course, Apple would have to compromise on some of the components to keep the price down. In a couple of years, this might be possible.
 
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Good to hear re: new AirPods! Been running on first-first-first-gen APs (someone’s gonna smarta— me saying it’s not that hard to keep track of the generations, but it’s been a little weird imo :p) and saving up for a while. New-gen standard APs came out too soon after I purchased; got the money saved for APPs too late in their product cycle to justify, knowing some kinda update is on the horizon.

So many reasons to look forward to the months ahead. ;) 💜
 
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