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New Apple Displays?

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I will probably go with a closeout 23" HD Cinema then. Apple cannot continue selling them at a premium, especially in light of the "Brilliant Savings" promotion. After WWDC the 23" Cinema's price will be $1499 without having to resort to a rebate. Woo-hoo watching DVD's, both mainstream and adult, will be FABU! :cool:
 
Question. Could this thing be used as just a standard high Def TV? I'm looking at replacing my old dilapidated 26" sometime in the next year and the idea of getting a monitor instead sound somewhat appealing esp if I could also occasionally hook up a computer and have it look as crisp as any dinky 17" monitor.

My knowledge of home entertainment interconnections is somewhat limited. Has DVI made it past the computer into the home entertainment center? :confused:

The reason I'm bringing this up is if I'm going to go in and plunk money down on a G5 laptop whenever they come out with one I'd be interested in just doing the same for such a beast of a display.
 
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Didnt Apple have to go to a DVI over ADC because ADC is limited to 1920X1200 max. plus power plus USB, even VGA is Higher then ADC.
I am thinking a ATI FireGL will be required for Mac and PC to use the card. I am Hoping there is an 8XAGP version so older Powermac G5's ANd High end PC's can use it.
Remember PCI e is just about to be released meaning 99.9999% of high end users dont have it yet.
Many of these users want the 30 inch. but not if it means buying a whole new computer after less than 1 year, plus a $400 Graphic card, plus the 30".
JMHO :)​
 
Dropping ADC will mean that, just like Airport/iPod/iTunes Windows users (or users who have a DVI connextor,but not ADC on a laptop) will be able to use Apple displays natively, without needing a $99 adaptor and also the design of the stand will be in line with most LCD displays-also, it will be quicker for newer graphics cards for Macs to be adopted-for example Mac versions of the X800 or GeForce 6800.
 
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What's the port under the main cable? :D Maybe it's a USB2+FW cable developed by Apple! :cool:
 
i heard its a bad idea to have buttons on the side like that.

(my NEC is like that) And in a review for it, the only downfall of the design was its buttons on the side. I thought Apple would be more practical and more functional than that..

(the above is assuming the drawing is a real display).
 
Where does this leave owners of existing displays? Does this mean they cannot update their systems.

Overall it seems to me to be a good idea as it should mean a greater choice of video cards, not lets hope that they will no longer need custom firmwqre then we will really be making some progress.
 
DGFan said:
Apple can't make its design decisions for cinema displays based on a portion of the designer market because:
1) it's a small market
2) some designers do want widescreen displays

Portait page layout is one of the few things where it may be a necessity to have a particular type of display. But, hey, if you're a specialist, get a specialty display. But widescreen is better for virtually everything....and everyone...else.
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I want to point out, for irony's sake here... it was MICROSOFT, in their latest office bundle, that redesigned mail viewing to fit naturally on a widescreen....

hope apple isn't too cool to copy cat-it would be very cool to read my mail from the top of my screen to the bottom, and still have it in all the organziational context of my mail.

'course, haven't used anything but mail.app, but have read the nytimes...so excuse me if I'm mistaken.
 
May I commit an act of heresy here and ask if Apple's dropping ADC and going with DVI only - what's the point of buying an Apple monitor? I don't want a huge ass 30" monitor. It won't fit on my desk for a start. I just want a good quality reasonable sized monitor. ADC was one of the reasons I went with an Apple monitor as it was neater and more convenient. It Apple's monitors are now all DVI why should I buy one of those when there are other TFT monitors for less money that are just as good if not better?
 
good point!

if I own a 20" Cinema and want to upgrade to a G5 DVI-only, will I bill able to still use my 20" ADC ?

Does one lose a lot of quality when using a ADC to DVI adaptor??
 
dontmatter said:
Two firewire ports: 400, 800, or one of each? Same question to USB 2.0
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Don't know about the Firewire, but I'd imagine all USB ports would be 2.0. USB2.0 ports are backward-compatible with v1.x devices - there's no need for special '1.x'-only ports.

Incidentally, FW800 is also backward-compatible, but you need the correct cable for the new-style port.
 
For those of us who welcome DVI this would be fantastic. :D For those people who are still attached to ADC perhaps not so great. However there will still be plenty of new and used ADC displays and graphics cards available for sale at bargain prices for some time. Even for those people who don't care for the new design for one reason or another this is still good news because they will have better access to third party displays, graphics cards, and other devices via DVI.
 
ADC's Timely Demise and Likely Future Ressurection

The ADC, despite it's limitations, is a brilliant feature. I agree with the decision to move to DVI for the time being- allowing Apple to increase sales outside the Mac community and gain equity in graphics cards releases. However, I strongly believe we will see the ressurrection of some form of and ADC-type connector (be it from Apple or the Wintel world once they can subvert any patents successfully) in the future. Apple came up with the idea, and since we mac users make up such a small slice of the computer user pie chart it was never accepted as any sort of standard- creating no substanstial additional profit for Nvidia and ATI. Once the Wintel world rediscovers the ease of one-plug minitors, they will create the WinDC and DVI will be todays VGA.
 
sunmade said:
if I own a 20" Cinema and want to upgrade to a G5 DVI-only, will I bill able to still use my 20" ADC ?
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Yes, probably. You could use an adapter if the graphics card in the new Mac has DVI but lacks ADC. Such an adapter must be able to also supply power however. You might also be able to use your current graphics card instead of the new one if the new Mac has AGP. The solutions to such issues will become more clear after both rumored products are released.

sunmade said:
Does one lose a lot of quality when using a ADC to DVI adaptor??
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No. There is no loss of quality.
 
Overall a good rumor I think.

But those who believe that the 30" will ship for the same price as the current 23" are dreaming I'm afraid... Hell, even a 30" LG costs over $3000. I think the 20/23" will not change much in price...
 
dontmatter said:
Don't know if I like that you can have all the style and beauty of apple on the desk but have the PC underneath...

then again, in 30 inches there is no hiding the uglyness of windows!
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Actually, if the Longhorn pictures I've seen are anything to judge by, they'll need the 30" so they can display anything more than the big buttons and huge clock...
 
Steve Jobbs is as stubborn as they come. I can't see him letting go of the ADC connection. Maybe they will come with both (ideally) or come in two different versions: ADC and DVI.
 
Some people are idiots. That aside:

The ADC interface *IS* based on DVI-I entirely. The limitations of ADC ALSO apply to DVI. A display larger than ~1920x1400? needs multiple DVI plugs, as shown by IBM, viewsonic, and a few other companies that make super high res LCDs.

Another note would be that if anything the monitor will still have one cable coming out the back and at the end of it a box with the power adaptor, DVI plug, etc. IMHO those mockup designs SUCK.
 
I'd take DVI as a net positive. I hate cables, but I hate proprietary interfaces more...
 
firewire input

Laslo Panaflex said:
So with built in firewire, does that mean there is a firewire cable to connect the monitor to the computer and to make a firewire hub. I don't know, this really doesn't make much sense, DVI doesn't carry power, so you need to plug it in to power also. If this is the case, then I am very happy with my ADC 23" cinema, one cable is very clean, and I get a USB hub in the monitor, I have more USB than firewire appliances.

Really, this doesn't appeal to me, I am cofortable with the 23" plus my cpd 540, and I really don't care if it matches the G5. Now, if the pixel response and brightness were different, that would be a different story. I am holding judgment untill they are released, thinksecret has lost my trust since their "comfirmed june 8th G5 updates".
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Umm....Digital Cable boxes! Hdtv. Camcorders. DVD players. You name it. Wireless video!

I.
 
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