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Unfortunately, I think we're still going to be waiting until mid-March since Apple needs to produce the MBPs once they get the chipsets, and there's also testing etc.

The chipsets have been out since early January, thus Apple has had plenty of time to manufacture MBPs. I would say it's pretty likely that some factory in China is already manufacturing the next gen MBPs.
 
I just hope that Apple does some decent upgrades to the 13". We've seen news about the 15 and 17 inch slowly decreasing but not too much from the 13". The first Mac i'll be getting is the MBP and I would like it mostly portable because I travel a lot. :rolleyes:

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Just for you bmwooden17... another dsgi update on 13" MBP... Yesterday there were 200 in our warehouse, today we have 140. It is decreasing... although last time this happened I looked again and we re-acquired 600... so who knows.
 
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Guys, I have been thinking about these defective chips. Even though apple doesn't use those ports, I think it will be too much of a pr issue to say to the market "yes we used the defective chips" and for apple to go through the whole life cycle with that on their shoulders. Also remembering that the average apple consumer is not the most technically minded, it could be easy for other manuf to steal away customers new to the apple brand. If I was apple, I'd wait for other manuf to release and fend off the "but these are defective chips questions". Once they released and the market forgets, you go ahead with your launch.

The other thing, their is consensus by most of the mainstream media that a refresh is likely within the next 6-8 weeks. I would imagine the research division at apple is very well aware that when the media all agree that it's coming soon, their sales of the old model literally hit the ground. So why not cut the stock, let the anticipation grow and get this huge flood of sales when you release.? Especially if you expect to not sell much in the coming weeks
 
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Guys, I have been thinking about these defective chips. Even though apple doesn't use those ports, I think it will be too much of a pr issue to say to the market "yes we used the defective chips" and for apple to go through the whole life cycle with that on their shoulders. Also remembering that the average apple consumer is not the most technically minded, it could be easy for other manuf to steal away customers new to the apple brand. If I was apple, I'd wait for other manuf to release and fend off the "but these are defective chips questions". Once they released and the market forgets, you go ahead with your launch.

The other thing, their is consensus by most of the mainstream media that a refresh is likely within the next 6-8 weeks. I would imagine the research division at apple is very well aware that when the media all agree that it's coming soon, their sales of the old model literally hit the ground. So why not cut the stock, let the anticipation grow and get this huge flood of sales when you release.? Especially if you expect to not sell much in the coming weeks

Other manufacturers can't steal Apple customers based on this because most notebook manufacturers are going to be using the faulty chips too. Anyone who only needs 2 SATA ports will be fine with using those chipsets.
 
Also, new sb mb air might be available in june news, is that a bad news for mbp fan who is waiting for refresh?
 
Also, new sb mb air might be available in june news, is that a bad news for mbp fan who is waiting for refresh?

Well, considering that they were updated 6 months after the MBP last year, I don't think Apple is really trying to release these at the same time. I say it has no bearing on the Pro release, which I'm hoping is very soon.
 
Well, considering that they were updated 6 months after the MBP last year, I don't think Apple is really trying to release these at the same time. I say it has no bearing on the Pro release, which I'm hoping is very soon.

Agreed that I think apple will not do this. Why would they want to hurt their MB air sale now w/ news like this?

Also, it kinda sucks that I will get mbp when it gets released but will be looking over my shoulders to make sure (IF)mb air gets released in june, their specs are not too awesome to second guess my mbp purchase in feb/march/april.

Yeah, bottom line is, I hope mbp gets released super super super SOON.
 
did they just drop the price of the mbp on the apple website?

Edit: nvm for some reason it is showing student dicount :(
 
clue about what it might look like than a clue about when it might appear, but I like this thread better.

http://www.applebitch.com/2011/02/11/will-the-new-macbook-pro-move-to-ssd-without-a-doubt/

Sloppy analysis. It misses a couple of key points.

1) They call out the great battery life of the MBA, citing its small size compared to the MBP. What they neglect to mention is the significantly lower power consumption of the CPU and other components in the ultraportable as reasons for this. They also don't bother to compare the relative battery sizes and lives of the two models in comparison. They may as well have not made the point at all.

2) Storage size. Going to SSD could potentially significantly reduce the storage size from what is currently available. They make no attempt to explain why this wouldn't be a problem for some users.

3) Cost. 256GB SSD run in the $600 dollar range. Making SSDs standard is going to erode the cost that apple has driven down over the past few years on MBP to appeal to more consumers. New pricing would have to make sense and not drive off consumers.
 
Just for you bmwooden17... another dsgi update on 13" MBP... Yesterday there were 200 in our warehouse, today we have 140. It is decreasing... although last time this happened I looked again and we re-acquired 600... so who knows.

I think they must've been short. At our store a few weeks ago we sent around twenty 13" MBP's back to Newark for redistribution to stores around the country.

(Yeah, I work for DSGi too. :p)
 
@Hellhammer: The chipsets that have been released in Jan are desktop chipsets: too large and eat way too much power. The chipsets set for release feb 20th are the mobile (laptop) chipsets. Thats why a feb release isnt realistic.

To add to clues on release early march:
Dutch online retailer centralpoint.nl currently has no MacBook Pro's in stock. On every page, they posted an expected delivery date of 4th of March. This seems to be in line with BestBuy's expected in-stock date of March 11th (well, there's a whole week in between, but still is the first half of march).

Other retailers are less specific, but expect delivery after 10+ or 10-20 businessdays. This all adds up to Best Buy's guess of March 11th.

Next to that: expected shipping date of the 13" MBP has dropped to 1-3 days in the Dutch online Apple store. Nothin major, but unusual for sure.
 
@Hellhammer: The chipsets that have been released in Jan are desktop chipsets: too large and eat way too much power. The chipsets set for release feb 20th are the mobile (laptop) chipsets. Thats why a feb release isnt realistic.


Source? I don't recall reading this distinction...
 
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...les_macbook_pro_updates_but_delays_minor.html

The impact on Apple due to the setback hasn't been immediately clear. However, one person familiar with the matter tellsAppleInsider that some -- not all -- of the company's upcoming MacBook Pros were affected by the situation. According to this person, the Mac maker elected to make minor tweaks to the logic boards of those models, but that those changes would translate to a delay of less than two weeks.

interesting, mentions apple probably had mobile chipsets already and just tweaked them and will not delay too much.

In total, Intel said it shipped roughly 8 million of the Cougar Point chipsets to system manufacturers before it discovered the error but that "relatively few consumers" were impacted by this issue because the only systems that actually made it into end consumers hands' were those based on its new Sandy Bridge Core i5 and Core i7 quad core processors for desktop systems. The rest of the chips -- presumably some of which went to Apple -- hadn't yet been built into systems available to consumers.

so, I do believe chipsets for mobiles were already shipped, the FIXED ones should be shipping Feb. 14. But if the "older" chipsets were modified, then we may see newer MBP sooner, Feb may be pushing it but I can hope if it's been in Apple's hands for a bit.
 
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@Hellhammer: The chipsets that have been released in Jan are desktop chipsets: too large and eat way too much power. The chipsets set for release feb 20th are the mobile (laptop) chipsets. Thats why a feb release isnt realistic.

There are Sandy Bridge laptops with mobile chipsets already. Dual core SB CPUs will be released on 20th of February, chipsets have been out since January.
 
There are Sandy Bridge laptops with mobile chipsets already. Dual core SB CPUs will be released on 20th of February, chipsets have been out since January.

You're right, but considering power usage it's unlikely Apple will use those. The released SB's (all i7) are 45W at least. Current MBP chipsets are all 35W or less. If Apple doesnt want to give in on power usage too much, they'll go for the 35w or less chipsets due for release Feb 20th

Source on specs:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge?wasRedirected=true

Check the detail Mobile Chipsets table
 
Uh, I don't consider Wikipedia to be an accurate source of info.

Wikipedia (usually) gives references to all their articles or information, so it's better to criticize the reference if you disagree rather than wikipedia itself.
 
You're right, but considering power usage it's unlikely Apple will use those. The released SB's (all i7) are 45W at least. Current MBP chipsets are all 35W or less. If Apple doesnt want to give in on power usage too much, they'll go for the 35w or less chipsets due for release Feb 20th

Source on specs:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge?wasRedirected=true

Check the detail Mobile Chipsets table

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4084/intels-sandy-bridge-upheaval-in-the-mobile-landscape/9

whatever the case on wattage, it still seems to be very good on battery.
 
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