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New clues that may point to Macbook pros refresh

pedrofan said:
Don't buy Ivy bridge!! There is going to be something better after it!!! And don't buy the next technology after Ivy, there is going to be something really amazing in 2125!! But in 2126 it is going to be something even more expectacular!!!

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So they KEY here is to wait until im on my death bed. Then order it, and when i finally turn it on, ill die because an old ass man who probably cant handle that kind of excitement??
 
Mangos86 said:
Explain yourself.
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Honest, I'm not making this up. I read a bunch of sites but these are what I've seen:

Cult of Mac
Fudzilla
I thought either the Register or the Inquirer (they both look the same in my mind)

there were a few more

The point I was getting at is these are like the spark. Once you start to see dwindling supplies and then a few articles, it will breed into the largest sites.

For me, it confirms the best evidence which is hard to get computers. Going from 24 hours to weeks on some sites is pretty telling.

I stopped in a BB again last night and they are showing the 15" and 17" -the current models- at 'weeks' if I ordered one. <---- That is just not right when their stock was usually fine with very little lead time to order new ones.


Wishful thinking? Maybe but if Apple isn't gearing up for a new line then Tim Cook is falling down on the job with dried up supplies and insane order times.


-P
 
You are asking for technology that doesn't exist. Intel is already buying buildings and grounds to build the factories to make the chips, that are in the paper and labs now. They are doing this because they don't have resources for making 22nm chips with their current factories. So they have to invent the machines to build that chips, trusting they will work, trusting that the world and the company are going to be ok to finish all that things.

The REAL worl is that Intel has just anounced sandy bridge. You have sandy bridge, maybe Ivy would never exist.

And why are you waiting for Ivy Macs if you don't even know if mac is going to use sandy bridge or intel in the future?? Why not AMD?? No body outside apple Knows!
 
pedrofan said:
You are asking for technology that doesn't exist. Intel is already buying buildings and grounds to build the factories to make the chips, that are in the paper and labs now. They are doing this because they don't have resources for making 22nm chips with their current factories. So they have to invent the machines to build that chips, trusting they will work, trusting that the world and the company are going to be ok to finish all that things.

The REAL worl is that Intel has just anounced sandy bridge. You have sandy bridge, maybe Ivy would never exist.

And why are you waiting for Ivy Macs if you don't even know if mac is going to use sandy bridge or intel in the future?? Why not AMD?? No body outside apple Knows!
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THANK YOU! people need to stop speculating about ivy bridge and wait until Sandy bridge has come out for macs
 
Micro Center is selling new 13" MBP for $1,000 until Jan 31 (could be a sign of selling through inventory for a refresh) and I am very close to getting one of those.

I love Macs and having the latest product, but am not a die hard tech guy. Can someone explain the difference between the Sandy Bridge and Core 2Duo? I have a C2D in my '08 MB, and don't mind it at all, but if there are major differences then I may hold off and wait until SB's are in the new 13" models before I upgrade

Thanks
 
pedrofan said:
Apple is currently offering the best nvdia's GPU they can offer for the power consumption. There isn't any other Nvidia card that offers more performance for the same or less TDP. That's why I doubt that Apple is even going for 425m since it has 96 cores (330m has 48). Maybe GT 520m. Nvidia's policy is to put more cores to get more power, but that means more consumption if they don't shrink proccess nanometers, and they are not doing it.

In the other hand ATI seems to have a lot more of power in OpengGL even in the cards that performs less in Directx than Nvidia ones and their GPUs are more power efficient. That is so convenient for apple. Less power consumption and more performance in openg GL even putting lower end cards..

If you want to be really surprised activate cinebench r10 opengl in the following list and sort the list by that column. You can see how ati outperforms nvidia in opengl!!
One ATI midline 6550 is faster than two top of the line nvidia gtx 480m in sli!!!!!!!

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html?&3dmark01=0&3dmark03=0&3dmark05=0&3dmark06=1&archive=0&benchmark_values=0&cinebench10_ogl=1&condensed=0&crysis=&doom3=&dx=0&fear=&month=&multiplegpus=0&or=0&professional=0&search=&sort=cinebench10_ogl&vantage3dmark=&vantage3dmarkgpu=

I like nvidia a lot more, but, since OSX works with OpenGL and not with directx, Apple should take an ati gpu if they want to offer something faster in their new laptops.
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I'd be kinda sad if they gave 15" and 17" users an NVIDIA GT 4 series instead of a 5 series or a Radeon HD 6600M.
 
hfletcher said:
There is nothing worse than knowing that your 2010 MBP is no longer the latest model.
I hope they don't release new models soon :D ;)

Anyway, I think last year with Arrandale there were the same indicators, but it did take quite a while after that for them to release them. I remember waiting until April for them, when everyone thought they'd come out in early 2010 :(
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My first MacBook was the 2008 Aluminum Unibody model. 30 days later, new MacBook Pros came out. Turned out they took the same 13 inch I bought..gave it better specs, gave it the pro name, gave it a backlit keyboard and ALSO dropped the price. You just don't know how sick I was. I was new to Macs at the time so I didn't follow speculation much and I wanted a Mac.

I later sold it right before the 2010 models came out. I bought the 2010 15 inch MBP RIGHT when they came out. That was such a good feeling. I felt like I somehow redeemed myself for my foolish actions years ago haha. It will be sad knowing my mbp isn't the latest mbp out there, but it was a fun ride!
 
Yebubbleman said:
I'd be kinda sad if they gave 15" and 17" users an NVIDIA GT 4 series instead of a 5 series or a Radeon HD 6600M.
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Nvidia's 400 and 500 series are the same. Most of 500 are rebranded 400 with more clock frequencies and new name. So don't worry about the name, the only things that matters are the performance and power consumption. Apple will give macs the best balanced card for their requirements. If atis are a lot more powerful in open gl and they consumes less I will receive them with open arms.
 
If they don't refresh the 13", any chance they introduce a lower price for the 15"? $1799 its out of A LOT of peoples price range for just a laptop.
 
Funkymonk said:
If they don't refresh the 13", any chance they introduce a lower price for the 15"? $1799 its out of A LOT of peoples price range for just a laptop.
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lol, I think that's unlikely if they bring in standard flash storage. Unless they offer a basic 15" without an SSD.
 
I think it's pretty darn likely that Apple will hold a media event (probably in March) to announce iPad 2. Is it just me or does that seem like a likely time for them to announce an MBP refresh?
 
smallnshort247 said:
My first MacBook was the 2008 Aluminum Unibody model. 30 days later, new MacBook Pros came out. Turned out they took the same 13 inch I bought..gave it better specs, gave it the pro name, gave it a backlit keyboard and ALSO dropped the price. You just don't know how sick I was. I was new to Macs at the time so I didn't follow speculation much and I wanted a Mac.

I later sold it right before the 2010 models came out. I bought the 2010 15 inch MBP RIGHT when they came out. That was such a good feeling. I felt like I somehow redeemed myself for my foolish actions years ago haha. It will be sad knowing my mbp isn't the latest mbp out there, but it was a fun ride!
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Honestly, my advice to deal with that is to start saving up for the machine you'll replace it with in 4-6 years, if you stick to it, you'll feel much better about the fact that yours will have been outdated.

pedrofan said:
Nvidia's 400 and 500 series are the same. Most of 500 are rebranded 400 with more clock frequencies and new name. So don't worry about the name, the only things that matters are the performance and power consumption. Apple will give macs the best balanced card for their requirements. If atis are a lot more powerful in open gl and they consumes less I will receive them with open arms.
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Oh sure, but you don't think that, even for the Mid-2010 generation, we couldn't have had a better discrete GPU than the GeForce GT 330? I definitely saw way better in even the lowest end discrete GPU-equipped PC laptops circa the same era.

Umbriel said:
In case of a major redesign (eg MacBook Air like) - Yes.
If they just bump the spec to Sandy Bridge - Likely No.
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Even if it's a major redesign, we didn't see events for the new Mac mini nor the Unibody white MacBook.

Erasmus said:
[Gives round of applause to pedrofan, the celebrity]

I would expect the MBPs to start at 128GB of flash storage. I think starting at 256GB would just cost too much.
I also think we have between 2-4 weeks more to wait. I can't imagine new MBPs this week.
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We have at least until Sandy Bridge dual-core mobile CPUs properly hit the market, I'd say. So, within a day or two of the 20th.

Funkymonk said:
If they don't refresh the 13", any chance they introduce a lower price for the 15"? $1799 its out of A LOT of peoples price range for just a laptop.
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They'll do something to bridge the gap if the 13" Pro is removed from the line-up. If it isn't, then I think Apple would just leave it as that bridge to the gap or just make either the 13" Air that much more appealing, or bring us back something like the Black (or aluminum) MacBook at the higher-end of the MacBook line, let alone any second higher-end model non-Pro non-Air MacBook.
 
Erasmus said:
lol, I think that's unlikely if they bring in standard flash storage. Unless they offer a basic 15" without an SSD.
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I second that. If they were going to make any improvement to the "standard" hard drive offering, it would be a bump from 5400RPM to 7200RPM. And even that would surprise me. I think we're still 2 years away from standard SSD offerings.
 
punchwalk said:
I second that. If they were going to make any improvement to the "standard" hard drive offering, it would be a bump from 5400RPM to 7200RPM. And even that would surprise me. I think we're still 2 years away from standard SSD offerings.
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I feel like the 15" and 17" might have a MacBook Air style blade SSD slot on the motherboard as standard, but I'll bet that you're right that it won't be standard for that slot to be taken up by an actual blade SSD drive.
 
the way the supplies look I think it's unreal to think Apple would wait until March to release the new mbps. It seems to me they would not leave a one month gap of barely selling notebooks if they probably have the new ones all set already.
 
i'd love it if someone who actually KNEW something from inside apple to say something xD or maybe Steve jobs has an account in macrumors and posts pointers now and then :p
 
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