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NEW Dell IPS 22" Monitor 2209WA
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the only thing i dont like about the dell is that it has a build in webcam and that its a 23... other wise its a nice monitor... i just want that extra inch lol
how is westinghouse?
http://www.buy.com/prod/westinghous...-1920x1200-hdmi-hdcp/q/loc/101/207540840.html
heard it has buzzing problems at high brightness
how is westinghouse?
http://www.buy.com/prod/westinghous...-1920x1200-hdmi-hdcp/q/loc/101/207540840.html
heard it has buzzing problems at high brightness
TN panels can only do 260,000 colors natively (6-bit). IPS panels can do 16,000,000 colors natively (8-bit). They also have better viewing angles.
It has a TN panel.
HA!
There rests the problem for the most part. Unless you find a good deal on a used monitor, or sacrifice something like the Dell in this post you just won't find one for under $300.
Unless you are wanting that color critical spec of the IPS, nothing is really wrong with the TN panels that you find in some monitors. And you can always shop around for the PVA panels that are used in many other displays.
Nope, no such beast exists. Prices have yet to drop to that level. Hopefully in a couple of years, though. We'll have to see how this e-IPS technology does.
So there's a 24" version of this that isn't an UltraSharp right?
I need my 1920 x 1200 for a few ancient games that I have. I want to see them in all their glory.
I only know of the 22" version so far. Hey I wish the resolution was 1920x1200 too. But this monitor has been performing fantastic for me.
man this is so frustrating.... so this is my situation.... im replacing a 19inch acer that i have on a lcd arm and hooked up to my MBP... and i want it replaced by a good RELIABLE 24 inch monitor... im not doing anything crazy graphic intensive, just gaming and movie use... and i am having such problems finding a good monitor within that range.
I found that SAMSUNG 2433BW (for 260) and ive heard mixed about that, then i found the dell S2409W 24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor (for 260 refurb from dell, and 309 brand new from dell), and then i also found that Dell SP2309W 23" Flat Panel Widescreen Monitor with WebCam. for 280.
im just having trouble finding the best in the pile because my knowledge just is sort of lacking in that area...
so if any of you could either tell me which one is best or recommend one that is better then those within my price range.
the real problem is, is that i do too much reading i doubt my choise, and newegg has a lot of mixed reviews so i get pulled in both ways.
I found that SAMSUNG 2433BW (for 260) and ive heard mixed about that, then i found the dell S2409W 24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor (for 260 refurb from dell, and 309 brand new from dell), and then i also found that Dell SP2309W 23" Flat Panel Widescreen Monitor with WebCam. for 280.
im just having trouble finding the best in the pile because my knowledge just is sort of lacking in that area...
so if any of you could either tell me which one is best or recommend one that is better then those within my price range.
the real problem is, is that i do too much reading i doubt my choise, and newegg has a lot of mixed reviews so i get pulled in both ways.
yep, you are right
it is 1920x1080 I really wanted to pull the trigger on the samsung 24" they had a dell for $250 a month ago. It was $400 on sale with free shipping.You dont have to do graphics work to appreciate IPS displays. IPS monitors are just much better looking and easier on the eyes, it doesnt matter what you do, thats always better when it comes to buying something you will be looking at.
When was the last time you heard someone say "who cares how good the picture is, I'll only be using it to watch tv and movies" when talking about buying a TV? It just wouldnt make sense. Picture quality matters, it matters a hell of a lot.
If you care at all about aesthetics and use your computer for more than straight information then you will like an IPS display more than a TN. PVA displays are fine too. You will not regret buying a PVA/IPS monitor over a crappy TN, the difference in quality is drastic and will likely convert you away from TN forever.
When was the last time you heard someone say "who cares how good the picture is, I'll only be using it to watch tv and movies" when talking about buying a TV? It just wouldnt make sense. Picture quality matters, it matters a hell of a lot.
If you care at all about aesthetics and use your computer for more than straight information then you will like an IPS display more than a TN. PVA displays are fine too. You will not regret buying a PVA/IPS monitor over a crappy TN, the difference in quality is drastic and will likely convert you away from TN forever.
Exactly, I needed to replace a great CRT I had and wanted an LCD with great color and good performance. This monitor appeared to have exactly what I wanted.
Gaming on this monitor is fantastic and viewing web pages is now more enjoyable. The picture and colors are of the highest quality.
Look, if you dont need higher resolution and more than 22", this monitor is great value at $300. Simple as that.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...?EdpNo=3510476&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs
found this for any one looking for a 24inch for a low price... i know the response time is 8ms but i dunno resolution seams good.....
im still going to get the samsung tho...
found this for any one looking for a 24inch for a low price... i know the response time is 8ms but i dunno resolution seams good.....
im still going to get the samsung tho...
I'm looking for a bit of advice. I've been looking at this monitor and I'm really liking it, however I just ordered the a rebranded HP w2408h on buy.com for $205 shipped and is currently on it's way.
I don't know if I should go ahead and order this and just compare them both and keep the one I like and try to sell the other or try to see if I can just cancel the buy.com order and refuse shipping.
I'm not a gamer and would be using it mostly for work database/web development/internet and occasional movie/games so don't really need HDMI. I liked the idea of the large 24" but it's still a TN and I like the idea of IPS panel. I also read somewhere that the color menu can't be accessed on the w2408h on the Mac??
Oh, decisions decisions. Any suggestions? Thanks!
I don't know if I should go ahead and order this and just compare them both and keep the one I like and try to sell the other or try to see if I can just cancel the buy.com order and refuse shipping.
I'm not a gamer and would be using it mostly for work database/web development/internet and occasional movie/games so don't really need HDMI. I liked the idea of the large 24" but it's still a TN and I like the idea of IPS panel. I also read somewhere that the color menu can't be accessed on the w2408h on the Mac??
Oh, decisions decisions. Any suggestions? Thanks!
I'm considering this screen to replace a CRT, also. I can live with almost any of its shortcomings considering the price (would have liked dual DVI inputs, but whatever), but I'm curious whether you can say anything about how badly the matte finish causes pixel "sparkle".
The HardForum thread only had a couple posts on the matter, one person thinking it was significant (like they wanted to wipe dust off the screen) and one saying it was present but minimal. I'm one of those people who's very sensitive to this artifact - any matte finish will cause subtle interference with each pixel, leading to a noisy, or grainy, or sparkly look to the image, which scintillates slightly if you move.
Any chance you could give a comparison judgement of the 2209WA vs. an Apple Cinema Display (20, 23, or 30") in this regard? (I've used a 20" white iMac with screen identical to the 20" Cinema Display and found the noise effect quite disruptive. I'm hoping the larger apertures of e-IPS and the larger pixel pitch might reduce it.)
Years. Right now I am personally using one that has lasted 3 and a half years. The paper uses ACDs up to 5 years old, and a good deal of ASDs up to 7 and 8 years. All still very color accurate and in great condition.
LCD's with backlights made from florescent tubes (classic LCD's) won't outlast CRT's. The backlight will fade and if you use it at max brightness, it will fade fast, around half its initial brightness after one year, and after 3 or 4 years tops, it will die and you need to make a replacement. If you don't use maximum brightness, the fade is a lot less, and you can expect 5 or more years of good service assuming you turn off the monitor when you are not using it (screen savers do absolutely NOTHING for LCD monitors, in terms of saving them), and you are not using them for more than a couple of dedicated hours a day.
LCD's with backlights made from LED's (LED backlit) will last depending on how strongly the LED lights are driven for, if you aim for 90% maximum voltage, you may get more life out of your monitor than 10 years of continuous use. However, if you use crappy voltage regulators, and use pulse width modulation to feed the LED's 100% height half duty cycle waveforms to simulate a 50% brightness, your LED's will be toast in a few years as LED's don't handle full voltage loads well, especially with poorly regulated power supplies and fluctuating voltages that periodically go above the 100% threshold. Another thing is that LED's used in consumer devices are not much more efficient than their fluorescent counterparts, and subsequently, individual LED's needs to operate closer to their rated maximum voltages to produce an acceptable amount of light and depending on the tradeoffs employed in the original design, your LED monitor MAY or MAY NOT outlast your CRT or classic LCD.
LED's also have a bit of problem with the poor colour renditions, perhaps more so than the classic LCD's. Some people tackled that problem with multi-coloured LEDs instead of white LED's to light up pixels with primary colours. Results are amazing, but the coloured LED's have a combined efficiency much lower than that of fluorescent tubes, and you end up with a very power-hungry monitor that some actual requires a fan to function.
The reason I have posted this question is that somewhere on this forum a while back, I read several posts from members who had their monitors die about every two years. My CRT monitors last almost forever.
No problem. I remember those posts too, but of all the ones I work with at my paper none have any issues, and all of them save for the 30" ACDs they just recently got, are over 5 years old and are still top notch.
I know they won't get rid of them any time soon, but if they ever choose to I'd like to pick up a few.
I'm at work now and the w2408h was delivered today, so I have at least one monitor I will be testing out. Now I'm trying to decide if I should go ahead and order the 2209WA so I can do a side by side comparison or just see how I like this one first. My only worry is being able to return a monitor or having to sell one. I'm sure selling one of these wouldn't be too difficult, but it still seems like a hassle. I wish there was somewhere I could see these Dell monitors in person.
EDIT: I decided to just do a side-by-side comparison and went and ordered the 2209WA.
Gratz, i'm loving this thing. Don't forget, this is not a glossy monitor. You will have barely any reflections and its easy on the eyes. Been reading/surfing the web 3 hrs a night and have had no eye strain.
I have both the ACD and this 2209WA. I see no sparkling unless i have my eyes 6 inches from the screen lol. I sit back about 1 and 1/2 feet from the screen and have not seen any of artifacts u describe.