apple honestly made a huge mistake when mentioning the mac pro. a bunch of people who would have bought the mac studio are now holding out until they finally do release the mac pro.
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That 2019 Intel Mac Pro is gonna stay the way it is until Apple readies the Apple Silicon replacement. You know, maybe they really thought, it wouldn't be too hard to do, but due to the popularity of notebooks over the past 10 years, they were super focused on prioritizing that. Its understandable especially with the fact that they got 90% of desktop Macs transitioned: Mac Mini, iMac and a new category with the Mac Studio. Also, it all boils down to volume, I don't think there are near a million 2019 Intel Macs in use.
Apple sold something like 15 million macs in 2019. You don’t think even near a millions are still in use?
I can bet you the vast majority of those are MacBook Airs and vast remainder being iMacs and MacBook Pros.
Think its a good guess that a M2 Mac Pro of any flavour will not be a thing… So lets imagine a scenario where the bowfins manage to create a M3 EXTREME SOC and it’s a headline grabber… thats going on the MP for sure… but that might be another 12 months away WWDC 2024 M3 EXTREME MAC PRO…. No way we’ll see it any sooner…
As for the Mac Studio… I’ll be really pleased if we see the Mac Studio with M2 Max and M2 Ultra, it’s too important a computer to be neglected…
Will I buy one… We’ll here’s the rub…
I didn’t replace my 2020 iMac with a Mac Studio because I wanted to see what the Silicon Mac Pro was going to look like… If a M2 Mac Studio comes out it would probably be perfect for my needs and being 12+ months later I could really do with replacing that 2020 iMac… that just keeps plodding along and not complaining and apart from being a little slower to render big files its actually holding its own pretty well… but I can’t ignore the fact that I really need to get over to Silicon as more software gets optimised etc…
But we still don‘t know what the Mac Pro is going to look like… so it’s EXACTLY the same situation if a M2 MS gets released… The only hope is that they give us a glimpse of the MP at WWDZc this year and give folks an indication of what is to come, at least that way we’d have an idea of what was coming and could plan accordingly…
As for the Mac Studio… I’ll be really pleased if we see the Mac Studio with M2 Max and M2 Ultra, it’s too important a computer to be neglected…
Will I buy one… We’ll here’s the rub…
I didn’t replace my 2020 iMac with a Mac Studio because I wanted to see what the Silicon Mac Pro was going to look like… If a M2 Mac Studio comes out it would probably be perfect for my needs and being 12+ months later I could really do with replacing that 2020 iMac… that just keeps plodding along and not complaining and apart from being a little slower to render big files its actually holding its own pretty well… but I can’t ignore the fact that I really need to get over to Silicon as more software gets optimised etc…
But we still don‘t know what the Mac Pro is going to look like… so it’s EXACTLY the same situation if a M2 MS gets released… The only hope is that they give us a glimpse of the MP at WWDZc this year and give folks an indication of what is to come, at least that way we’d have an idea of what was coming and could plan accordingly…
Mac Studio
- M2 Max/Ultra
- WWDC 2023 release
- M3 Ultra/Extreme
- WWDC 2023 preview
- Fall 2023 release
I decided to save lots of $$ and went from near maxed out 5,1 to a Mini M2Pro. I was contemplating a studio M1 Max, then would that back to an Studio M1 Pro and then finally rationalised on the Mini M2 Pro
I keep hearing the M2 is a stop gap I'm waiting for the M3 - I find this odd as no body knows what or when the M3 drops and how it will be configured regarding performance, economy and GPU cores. Sure I too would assume faster, bigger, better but given there is relatively small if any difference between M series single core performance on same generation then why wait if you need/want a faster perhaps (at least in my case significantly more energy efficient) machine why not drop for a M2 Pro device and then if want or need to spend yet more of your hard earned then go M3 route, but I suspect many of those saying waiting for the M3 will then say waiting for M4, M5.....
Now this argument is a little different if already using an M1 series Mac but those that can drop the need for x86 architecture can and do it now.
For me the biggest difference was silence, the 5,1 wasn't crazy load until you leaned on it, but I now here my wife Win 10 7th gen i7 Laptop humming fan behind me when in study. And that goes crazy when she's in MS Teams session (yet her i5 5K iMac doing same thing is sooo much quieter)
As also YMMV
I keep hearing the M2 is a stop gap I'm waiting for the M3 - I find this odd as no body knows what or when the M3 drops and how it will be configured regarding performance, economy and GPU cores. Sure I too would assume faster, bigger, better but given there is relatively small if any difference between M series single core performance on same generation then why wait if you need/want a faster perhaps (at least in my case significantly more energy efficient) machine why not drop for a M2 Pro device and then if want or need to spend yet more of your hard earned then go M3 route, but I suspect many of those saying waiting for the M3 will then say waiting for M4, M5.....
Now this argument is a little different if already using an M1 series Mac but those that can drop the need for x86 architecture can and do it now.
For me the biggest difference was silence, the 5,1 wasn't crazy load until you leaned on it, but I now here my wife Win 10 7th gen i7 Laptop humming fan behind me when in study. And that goes crazy when she's in MS Teams session (yet her i5 5K iMac doing same thing is sooo much quieter)
As also YMMV
They very well could, but John Ternus said there was one last system left to update and that would come another day.
That implies they are (or were) working on it.
I don’t understand how what models they were have anything to do with how many are still in use
Software on iOS and Mac have nothing been lacklustre so it is no surprise they have nothing to show for or focus on.
I'm going to try to talk to someone at Apple at WWDC about providing first party support for cross compiling on Apple Silicon.
The future is looking like it's going to be AR headsets. The iPad is effectively as much of a dinosaur at this point as Macs are.
They tried whats-a-computer in the mid-2010's. They failed. People weren't buying it.
Horse pucky.I read this blog post a few years back. I didn't agree with it back then but in hindsight I'm actually coming around to the idea. You may have a point
Above Avalon: The Mac Is Turning into Apple's Achilles' Heel
Apple's decision to change course and develop a new Mac Pro has received near-universal praise from the company's pro community. While developing a new Mac Pro is the right decision for Apple to make given the current situation, it has become clear that the Mac is a major vulnerability in Apple's brwww.aboveavalon.com
The iPad never materialized as a replacement for the Mac. People voted with their dollars. iPad pushing people LOST that debate, even after Apple dumped probably boatloads of money into marketing the idea.
It's a fine device for using in the kitchen or sitting around on the couch, but creatives NEED screen space and file systems. Developers NEED the ability to install other runtimes. It doesn't matter how hard iPad people pout that "it's the future", if it can't run node js or python, it's a non-starter and will be ignored.
None of the iPad people can survive without digital creators (artists, editors, developers) making their preferred platform viable. It's odd that iPad people want to roll the clock back make life harder and more restrictive for the people who make every facet of their lives possible.
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I read this blog post a few years back. I didn't agree with it back then but in hindsight I'm actually coming around to the idea. You may have a point
Above Avalon: The Mac Is Turning into Apple's Achilles' Heel
Apple's decision to change course and develop a new Mac Pro has received near-universal praise from the company's pro community. While developing a new Mac Pro is the right decision for Apple to make given the current situation, it has become clear that the Mac is a major vulnerability in Apple's br
That blog was/is whacked.
" ... Apple ran into an issue when it came to addressing the niche of the niche. Millions of pro users could not make the jump from Mac Pros or other high-end PCs to a MacBook Pro or iMac. ..."
There never where "Millions of Mac Pro users". At least in the Intel era.
" .. According to consensus, the biggest challenge Apple is facing is finding a business as profitable and influential as the iPhone. .. "
That consensus is steaming pile of male cow manure. "if it isn't as big as an iPhone ... it is FAIL". That mentality ragged on the Apple Watch for years as it grew into a multiple billion business. AppleTV , that mentality would have throw it too into the trash can ... but now also a vastly bigger business when loop in services. The notion that Apple can't pursue any product unless it is a big as iPhone is nuts. Completely , utterly nuts. That is exactly what tends to kill big , lumbering tech companies over time. ( can't do another chip unless it is bigger than x86 .. did that help Intel long run . Nope. ) .
Apple cannot persue "too small" business ventures. But setting the criteria to "almost as big as iPhone" as the lower bound is also ludicrous .
This blog poo-poos Macs because not cracking the 20M/yr run rate mark. Last couple of years Macs have had no problems doing that.
" Resource strain. Even though Apple has $246B of cash and cash equivalents, the company is resource-constrained when it comes to time and attention ..."
Chuckle. Apple has sink hole Car project going that appears to have sunk $1B into a hole that generates no revenue. A $1B cellular modem that hasn't shipped either. That $264B was after paying dividends , taxes, R&D , etc. The R&D budget in 2020-23 is plenty higher than it was in 2017.
The M-series using mostly the same building bock function units ( CPU core clusters , GPU core clusters , System cache + memorcy controllers) actually allows Apple to spread more of the core basic work over more product now than they were in 2017 ( All that Intel CPU package cost and Apple mark-up piled on top of that goes into paying for the differences. Which for the iPad Pro are shrinking ... a lot ! "Half" the iPad line up is on M-series at this point. (admittedly not anywhere 'half' in unit sales. ). There was a possible synergy there ... not an 'either Macs or iPad" issue. )
Is Apple going to create an "AMD Eypc , Intel Xeon SP , Ampere One , Nvidia Grace "-killer server SoC package. Probably not. They also don't need to. But for 98+ % of the Mac line up there was not big stretch at all.
" .. Meanwhile, there isn't much evidence of MacBook or iMac features serving as inspiration for Apple's smaller screens. ..."
ProRes rolled out across the product line kind of evidence? USB-C sockets?
Wonder when Apple will release a new Mac Pro. Always good to see the Mac lineup up to date.
High-end quality? What, you mean like the Studio Display. Pfft.