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teksmex69 said:
Which works for you and your small companies but you clearly don't have a bigger picture to know I know companies that ARE willing to buy these machines. It's not a fluff-n-fold situation and/or a one size fits all computer market. Some people are perfectly happy with these all in ones. Now maybe you, in your biased opinions TELL these companies "blah blah all-in-ones are dead don't buy them blah" but that doesn't make it right. These machines fit needs and I've already seen tentative sales of the new machine in the double digits from people I know. They will sell, regardless of your opinion.
Shuttle is a different business model than the eMacs, you're clearly tuned into the peecee mentality, may need to tune out for a while.
Maybe you truly are Yoda.
maybe i just need more coffee this morning, but what the [bleep] is that?! everyone run and get your emacs! all i know is apple better have something fantastic to show this summer for the consumer line (imac) and possibly powerbooks, as well as g5 updates. come on steve, you love to ooh and ahh us with your showmanship, but we ain't seen nuthin in a long time that has anything to do with computers... i'm off to get my coffee and subsequently a better mood. thank you.
a17inchFuture said:
Hmmm... Im not really sure. That might fall under the "custom configured" categoty. Call apple and ask them about it.
If you don't like your pb and you just bought it, return it. Laptops are going to be slower than desktops, and honestly, you want them to screw over eMac people b/c they can't get the pb out yet? Here's what it all boils down to, no one made you buy your computer when you did, Apple does not "owe" you anything, especially to tell you when they are going to release something, and your computer did not somehow get slower now that these new eMacs are out. Updates are GOOD things.
I certainly don't think the eMac update is lame - it makes good business sense for Apple to update the eMacs the way they did. Of course the update has a faster processor, but realize also that the L2 cache, built-in RAM, SuperDrive, and Mac OS X version were also bumped up (L2 cache doubled from 256K to 512K, built-in RAM also doubled from 128MB to 256MB, SuperDrive speed doubled as well from 4X to 8X, and the preinstalled Mac OS X version was bumped to 10.3 from 10.2). All these changes, when put together, make for MUCH faster eMacs than we would have gotten if only the processor speed was increased. The fact that Apple gave the new eMacs 8X SuperDrives means that the new SuperDrives are ready for other Mac lines when they get updated, namely the iMacs, PowerBooks, and PowerMacs (excluding the PowerMac G4). Also, switchers know that the price of the computer is far less important than time spent making the computer work - this is why many of them (including myself) would never buy a Windows machine unless absolutely necessary (for development or use of Windows-only software or development of Windows ports of Mac-first applications, in my case).groovebuster said:
a17inchFuture said:
Wow. Dude. Ease up on the coffee. No one is forcing you to spend a couple thousand for portability. If you want eMac specs, buy an eMac. If you want a better PowerBook, hold on for a few more months and you should be able to ...
It's always perplexing that people get pissed at Apple for updating one of their products. It's not an insult to their customers to offer a better product. It's not a personal insult to you or anyone who bought the previous model in the last week. It's called offering more for your customers who are going to buy in the future. Obviously when you bought whatever you bought, it was worth the money to you (or you are a fool and the parting of your money was inevitable anyways).
crees! said:
Very true on all counts, though 33% is an awfully high "just break"-ing rate, IMHO. The disconcerting thing with these eMacs is that two of them went down in the first month, and that this is not a heavily-used lab. Of the four machines that went down, two had bad hard drives, and two had dead backup batteries. (Sounds like cheap components to me.) The latter problem is not such a big deal in a machine that is easy to service, but the eMacs are a pain to take apart and reassemble. Of course, that means even a simple RAM upgrade is a hassle as well.
Good To See
Apple finally updated one of it's computer products. Yea!
Now, for those compairing eMacs to PowerBooks. One is a desktop and the other is a portable. Go ahead and compare the PowerBook to an iBook or PC laptop, but not to a desktop. Seems like a waste of time..
This forum is moving so fast, I couldn't keep up to post.. damn!
Apple finally updated one of it's computer products. Yea!
Now, for those compairing eMacs to PowerBooks. One is a desktop and the other is a portable. Go ahead and compare the PowerBook to an iBook or PC laptop, but not to a desktop. Seems like a waste of time..
This forum is moving so fast, I couldn't keep up to post.. damn!
a couple of things. I love how they are still mainly advertising the same g5 image theyve had for weeks. Seems like apple is like heres an update at the bottom of the page so shut up and stop whinning.
Great the emac is now at 1.25Ghz. I know a couple of things aside, its almost as fast as a powerbook. POWERbook. Ha. I rather get a emac and carry it around if its gonna save me 2 grand.
Great the emac is now at 1.25Ghz. I know a couple of things aside, its almost as fast as a powerbook. POWERbook. Ha. I rather get a emac and carry it around if its gonna save me 2 grand.
macomposer said:
dunno about taking apart the eMac... did you grease back the thermal paste?
i didn't think upgrading the RAM was any worse than any other PCs... flip over, unscrew the covers and voila, there are the slots... not sure how to make it easier than that for a desktop.
This is probably going to be like it was at MWSF last year. It started with the eMacs, and a new product update every week until the whole lineup was new.
Also; I didn't read all the posts.. but if Apple updates all Superdrives to 8x DVD burning, then they don't have to drop their slower media as someone suggested.. drives can burn slower. I however think Apple's media is too expensive, as I buy a 20 pack of DVD's for $20 with the dvd-style case from Office Depot for my other DVD Burners.
Also; I didn't read all the posts.. but if Apple updates all Superdrives to 8x DVD burning, then they don't have to drop their slower media as someone suggested.. drives can burn slower. I however think Apple's media is too expensive, as I buy a 20 pack of DVD's for $20 with the dvd-style case from Office Depot for my other DVD Burners.
Since the based moved up and closed the gap, sounds to me the top of the line and middle have to move up now.
eMacs are now better than iMacs in every way (except being a widescreen on a stick) and are as good as the low powerbooks. This tells me it is time for Powerbooks and iMacs to receive a major overhaul, ready for a major puch forward.
WWDC is shaping up to be a very VERY good event.
Show us the Tiger that will be in our new Powerbooks, iMacs and PowerMacs which we will see on new LCDs.
eMacs are now better than iMacs in every way (except being a widescreen on a stick) and are as good as the low powerbooks. This tells me it is time for Powerbooks and iMacs to receive a major overhaul, ready for a major puch forward.
WWDC is shaping up to be a very VERY good event.
Show us the Tiger that will be in our new Powerbooks, iMacs and PowerMacs which we will see on new LCDs.
groovebuster said:
Not quite. The 1 GHz eMac is comparable in speed to the Celerons. We have both at my company. I'm slowly switching us over to Macs because I'm tired of dealing with viruses, worms, and anti-virus software (which turns out to be almost as bad as the viruses themselves).
Prices are comparable too, *if* you compare apples to apples. The only real price difference at this point is Microsoft Office... buy a Dell, and you can get it for $100 - $150 extra. Buy a Mac, it costs $350.
If Appleworks is ever updated to truly match Office's functionality, I suspect my company will never buy a PC again.
And for those of you who don't understand the point of an all in one unit... they make a heck of a lot of sense when being used as public kiosks, or when being used by school children.
New Emacs provide G5 update evidence
the new eMacs have 8x SuperDrives, and the G5's only have 4x SuperDrives. I believe that this is good evidence that a New G5 is coming soon...I mean, they can't have a low-end model Mac with a faster drive than the top-end Mac....Can they?At least not for 3 months! Maybe for 5 days(NAB) but not for 3 months~~~~!!!
i also just realized that the eMacs have a faster super drive than the iMacs....This may mean that iMac updates are also soon!
the new eMacs have 8x SuperDrives, and the G5's only have 4x SuperDrives. I believe that this is good evidence that a New G5 is coming soon...I mean, they can't have a low-end model Mac with a faster drive than the top-end Mac....Can they?At least not for 3 months! Maybe for 5 days(NAB) but not for 3 months~~~~!!!
i also just realized that the eMacs have a faster super drive than the iMacs....This may mean that iMac updates are also soon!
jettredmont said:
dude, what are you talking about?you can't understnad someone being upset they spent 2000 more dollars on something that is slightly better and has a thin screen and body? I think it would be pretty understandable, actually, and I have sympathized with others on this matter before.
It not that an update upsets me, in fact i am happy to see something going on at apple. But the emac being updated to near pb levels when the pb's are ten months old and original price is annoying.
And as I said earlier, their sale policy leaves something to be desired as well . . . .
All in all, it points to a compnay that cares less about its customers than its profit margins.