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I wonder if it's an Apple plant to discredit engadget's article? I've seen tons of people faking photo's as legitimate Apple products, but faking photos to discredit legitimate products???? Something's fishy about that.

lol! wouldn't apple use the real iphone 4G with fake UI?
 
If its gonna have a front facing camera will it still have the rear facing camera too? If so what will they be? 5MP chip for the rear and 3.2 MP for the front? I would like to see some discussion about this sense everyone has been talking about the front facing camera.
My guess is that the rear-facing camera is essential. Let's face it: more people take photographs and/or video with their smartphones than those who actually need videoconferencing.

As to the resolution of the front-facing camera, I don't really see why it needs to be more than a 1MP sensor (which would be sufficient for 720p HD). Trying to cram more pixels isn't going to help with low-light performance, and Joe Consumer really isn't going to see any benefit to really high-resolution video conferencing especially with the limited resolving power of a puny little lens.
 
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Regardless, I just bought my 3GS last summer, and it's still a great phone, so I won't be upgrading until next year when my contract is up.

Yeah I like that one a lot, very iPad-ish like this other mockup

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Gruber on the "leak":

The story sounds like something out of a novel — someone “finds” a next-gen iPhone housed in a 3G case on the floor of a bar in San Jose, and, while the phone was at first operational, alas, the unit now no longer boots. Those in possession of the unit send pictures to the editors at Engadget, who posted them last night. I was highly skeptical, to say the least. But: intrigued.

Today, Engadget has doubled down and called it legit, offering as proof this blurry photo they obtained back in January, which if you squint right appears to show this very device next to a test unit iPad.

So I called around, and I now believe this is an actual unit from Apple — a unit Apple is very interested in getting back. I am not certain that this is the actual production unit Apple intends to ship to consumers. I think it’s a testbed frame — thicker, with visible (and decidedly un-Apple-like) seams, meant to fit in 3GS cases so as to disguise units out in the wild. It’s hard to tell from the photos. But I think it is the real deal in terms of the internals and display being next-gen iPhone hardware, and the new glass back. A front-facing camera and 960 × 640 display are two things I know are slated for the next iPhone. (The “80 GB” of storage sounds like a mistake to me, but who knows? SSD storage typically comes only in even power-of-two increments.)
 
My guess is that the rear-facing camera is essential. Let's face it: more people take photographs and/or video with their smartphones than those who actually need videoconferencing.

As to the resolution of the front-facing camera, I don't really see why it needs to be more than a 1MP sensor (that would be sufficient for 720p HD). Trying to cram more pixels isn't going to help with low-light performance, and Joe Consumer really isn't going to see any benefit to really high-resolution video conferencing.

True. But remember that the current iPod Nano has a 3.2 video camera. With its size Im sure it could be fitted for a front facing camera, but like you said in your post, not many people are gonna benefit from it.
 
This concept just does it for me, sans the slope!
 

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Look at the the "iPad" prototype next beneath it. It looks nothing like the released version. There is simply nothing to learn from this info. I wouldn't even necessarily trust the micro SIM slot since Engadget has never really had any insider info at Apple.


That's because the Ipad is in a case that it bolted to the desk... they really didn't want that getting out... should have done the same with the iphone.

I reckon it's a real... but a prototype. Solid aluminium edge with flush glass both sides.
 
Gruber on the "leak":

The story sounds like something out of a novel — someone “finds” a next-gen iPhone housed in a 3G case on the floor of a bar in San Jose, and, while the phone was at first operational, alas, the unit now no longer boots. Those in possession of the unit send pictures to the editors at Engadget, who posted them last night. I was highly skeptical, to say the least. But: intrigued.

Today, Engadget has doubled down and called it legit, offering as proof this blurry photo they obtained back in January, which if you squint right appears to show this very device next to a test unit iPad.

So I called around, and I now believe this is an actual unit from Apple — a unit Apple is very interested in getting back. I am not certain that this is the actual production unit Apple intends to ship to consumers. I think it’s a testbed frame — thicker, with visible (and decidedly un-Apple-like) seams, meant to fit in 3GS cases so as to disguise units out in the wild. It’s hard to tell from the photos. But I think it is the real deal in terms of the internals and display being next-gen iPhone hardware, and the new glass back. A front-facing camera and 960 × 640 display are two things I know are slated for the next iPhone. (The “80 GB” of storage sounds like a mistake to me, but who knows? SSD storage typically comes only in even power-of-two increments.)
*bold is mine*
Even though it appears to be thinner, and not at all a shape that would allow the use of 3GS cases? It also must be an interesting type of glass, that is cheaper and as/more durable than plastic for use as a case back. Guess only time will tell about all this.
 
It did work and Engadget reported that it had a different OS, however, it appears to have been remote wiped.

Apple would not have messed with it if it wasn't the real deal, could have had an alpha build of 5.0 with 4G on it for all we know. I'm just shocked as to how it snuck its way out of Apple HQ and ended all the way down to a bathroom in a San Jose bar. Steve has sent his henchmen to retrieve the phone, you can count on that. :p
 
Do the innards not work? Why did they not turn it on?

Apple disabled the device remotely, a very simple procedure, which im sure is implemented on every prototype device.

Once the guy realized his phone was gone, he took no chances and disabled it.

The 3G prototype and the retail 3G weren't exactly the same. The prototype had black volume buttons while the retail version was chrome.

:rolleyes: I'm sure that's EXACTLY why people hated the new design. You and the rest of the haters need to go get a HTC phone.

It's an attractive phone. Some people are so against change they can't see straight. Such a human failing. :rolleyes:

Indubitably.
 
:rolleyes: I'm sure that's EXACTLY why people hated the new design. You and the rest of the haters need to go get a HTC phone.

Who said I was hating? I was just simply pointing out that the 3G prototype and retail version do not look exactly the same, and that the design of the iPhone 4 we saw today may look different in June when it's released.
 
if it's really new iPhone HD I am very disappointed ... however it does look like small iPad. If so I am waiting for the next iPhone 5
 
That's because the Ipad is in a case that it bolted to the desk... they really didn't want that getting out... should have done the same with the iphone.

I reckon it's a real... but a prototype. Solid aluminium edge with flush glass both sides.

The problem is that we really have no idea from these pictures though it may be real. So far it looks like some kind of Frankenstein iPhone.

Here is a Ferrari prototype.
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This place should just link straight to engadget....

So true.


This won't be the iPhone '4G'. For starters, it won't even be called the 4G. The design is disgusting, nothing Jonathon Ive would be proud of. It's over engineered, under styled and far too techy with too many buttons. Ive said himself, good design should looks as if it has had very little thought put into it, yet be brimming with innovative engineering to achieve this.

If this is the device, the housing is a decoy or some kind of mock up so the phone can be user tested.
 
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