Well, the current version is certainly not great.
It would be nice if they could work out all the bugs, especially with the way it handles different types of video.
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New Final Cut Pro Described as 'Dramatic and Ambitious' - Due in Spring 2011
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Well, the current version is certainly not great.
It would be nice if they could work out all the bugs, especially with the way it handles different types of video.
ah this is good news, me being a second year college student studying Media I kinda need this update, I'm plodding along okay using Final Cut Studio 3 & FCE 4.0, but my lecturers are constantly telling me I need to use Premier CS5, I dislike it so much that I bring in my own MBP rather than using the colleges iMacs which just have CS5 installed, don't get me wrong premier is good and its surpassed final cut studio since there hasn't been any major updates for quite a while that was bound to happen, but I cant turn out the light on Final Cut, I love it too much
So excited
At least your school has CS 5... Mine still uses 4 and we use Final Cut Pro ver 5 still
It's possible there could be a "snow leopard" version that runs only in 32-bit and a "lion version" that runs in 32-bit or 64_bit.
just a hunch.
At least your school has CS 5... Mine still uses 4 and we use Final Cut Pro ver 5 still
mines a college though so we generally do get more funding than a school, at the start of the second year the college just upgraded to all the latest iMacs 27'' i3 they scream too bad they only use Premier, the teachers get to use i5 models though It's about ********** TIME!
I'm on the verge of going Avid or Premiere.
This is Apple's last chance to keep me in their FCS camp.
I just hope this won't turn into iMovie Pro...
Like almost everybody else who is familiar with FCS I hate the new iMovie crap with venom.
I'm on the verge of going Avid or Premiere.
This is Apple's last chance to keep me in their FCS camp.
I just hope this won't turn into iMovie Pro...
Like almost everybody else who is familiar with FCS I hate the new iMovie crap with venom.
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Was considering Premiere Pro CS5 myself, I'm eligible for upgrade pricing and would run smooth as butter on my 8 core. Hopefully the new FCS will be at least as good. I'm waiting - impatiently.
Was considering Premiere Pro CS5 myself, I'm eligible for upgrade pricing and would run smooth as butter on my 8 core. Hopefully the new FCS will be at least as good. I'm waiting - impatiently.
1. iMovie 08 was crap.
2. About time! Why are people asking why Apple hasn't upgraded iWorks 2011 yet when FCP hasn't had a true update in many years?
3. A complete overhaul to the UI isn't really a selling point, or shouldn't be. Improvements are always welcome, but overhauls? People want to download it and figure out how to use the new features, not necessarily how to use every feature they currently use in FCP, plus the new features! It'll severely slow down productivity, as user experience and intuition developed from this experience won't help at all.
Sometimes, small changes are better, and even they take time for professionals to get a feel for.
2. About time! Why are people asking why Apple hasn't upgraded iWorks 2011 yet when FCP hasn't had a true update in many years?
3. A complete overhaul to the UI isn't really a selling point, or shouldn't be. Improvements are always welcome, but overhauls?
People want to download it and figure out how to use the new features, not necessarily how to use every feature they currently use in FCP, plus the new features! It'll severely slow down productivity, as user experience and intuition developed from this experience won't help at all. Sometimes, small changes are better, and even they take time for professionals to get a feel for.
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I'm expecting that Final Cut Express will be updated this year alongside Final Cut Studio-after all it's the next step up from iMovie and is used by many prosumer videomakers and hasn't been majorly updated at all since 2007.
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As an Avid editor who knows FCP as a contingency plan, I'm excited for this. I've never been a big fan of FCP's tool-based UI. Hopefully they've put some thought into a lot of different workflows in designing this new UI.
As an Avid editor who knows FCP as a contingency plan, I'm excited for this. I've never been a big fan of FCP's tool-based UI. Hopefully they've put some thought into a lot of different workflows in designing this new UI.
Doubt it, because as I said the API just isn't there in Snow Leopard. Unless Apple reverses course and decided to ultimately bring the original(now over 20 years old) Quicktime API to 64-bit there is NO WAY they could ever make something as ambitious as final cut with something as crude as the QTKit API. It's just not possible without major API changes, something that Apple rarely does mid-release. Maybe the timelines are wrong and we will be seeing this come out for Lion, but I would be willing to bet that we won't see 64 bit for Snow Leopard.....
UNLESS of course Apple does something like essentially make Lion's QTKit a private framework for FCP, which is possible but unlikely. In that case you could still keep the old SL API so you don't break any apps that depend on it while still going forward with the new Lion API(and of course when you finally do install Lion you will save some space as the redundant code will no longer be needed)....
You are not alone. I'm having exact the same frustrating experience.
Once you are used to real NLE's, you are too spoilt for iMovie 08 up.
I thought native is not as good as transcoding it to an intermediate format, such as ProRes.
This.
Why on earth would they do "complete redesign of the UI"? In all honesty it doesn't make any sense especially when a "iMovie guy" has the lead. There really isn't anything wrong with FCP user interface. Yes, it can be made better but complete redesign sounds bad since you have re-learn something that brings you very little benefits.
i'm interested to see what happens here, as I use FCP quite a bit these days.
does this mean Apple will have a presence at NAB?
does this mean Apple will have a presence at NAB?
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Unless this is 64bit and there seems no word of that fact or they have made quicktime 64 bit as FCP runs using quicktime, then bye bye FCP no matter what they add to it. FCP works well to a point but its the 64bit issue that wont go away. Apple have been banging on about this since they launched the G5 back some years ago but failed to address the central issue. Quicktime. You can blame your iphone, ipad and all the other consumer goodies for ruining the pro apps that has made Apple what it is today. Iphone is like a drug to most people, they have to have the latest model no mater that it made calls much like the old one. All the resources Apple have and they decide to concentrate purely on consumer developments and leave the rest of the people who made them behind.
Hello CS5 and Premier, the word is FCP will be more like Premier except Premier is 64 bit and is here now and works!! Even my Nvidia Quadro 4000 uses all of my 8 processors unlike FCP, Motion etc. FCP will have lots of little user tricks, and just like a magician you will fall for the smoke and mirrors but you will have to wait for it to render to see it.
Apple... The teenagers choice.
Unless this is 64bit and there seems no word of that fact or they have made quicktime 64 bit as FCP runs using quicktime, then bye bye FCP no matter what they add to it. FCP works well to a point but its the 64bit issue that wont go away. Apple have been banging on about this since they launched the G5 back some years ago but failed to address the central issue. Quicktime. You can blame your iphone, ipad and all the other consumer goodies for ruining the pro apps that has made Apple what it is today. Iphone is like a drug to most people, they have to have the latest model no mater that it made calls much like the old one. All the resources Apple have and they decide to concentrate purely on consumer developments and leave the rest of the people who made them behind.
Hello CS5 and Premier, the word is FCP will be more like Premier except Premier is 64 bit and is here now and works!! Even my Nvidia Quadro 4000 uses all of my 8 processors unlike FCP, Motion etc. FCP will have lots of little user tricks, and just like a magician you will fall for the smoke and mirrors but you will have to wait for it to render to see it.
Apple... The teenagers choice.
I hear ya. The latest iMovie is really what '08 should have been; too late mate - first impressions are everything!
It has to be the most neglected Apple product, EVER!
Is this the guy that shafted iMovie? great stuff, he's worked his "magic" on FCP now... what will we have? No timeline? No save? Movie Trailers!?
Yeah the Creator of Premiere, Final Cut, iMovie 08 and Aperture. I bet you made as many successful products as him!
OMG I am SOOO ELATED to read this!!!!
THANK YOUUUUU STEVE!!!!! If you deliver on this I promise you will see your Mac Pro sales soar shortly after release for the first time in a while!
The future of FCS has worried me for a while, this is the best news I have seen in a long time! I am sooo excited for this, new QuickTime X architecture, Open GL & CL optimization, 64 bit, new Cocoa UI, modern camera support such as DSLRs and AVCHD, Shake baked into Motion. YES YES YES! I am beyond giddy lol!
We have been very loyal and patient and we deserve this update! Now please keep the Mac Pro going for us as well! LightPeak please
It would be awesome if Steve were back to announce this... I can see it now haha... "So we asked our selves, what would happen if Shake and Motion HOOKED UP!?" Lol Magic, that's what!
2011 is looking like a GREAT year for product announcements! Next up, MacBook Pros, iMac, iPad 2, MobileMe, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, iPhone 5, Apple TV 3, iWork 11, Awesome!
"Apple reportedly reorganized the team under the lead of Randy Ubillos, the developer behind the completely redesigned iMovie in 2008."
K Schizoid you need to CHILL! Randy Ubillos is very brilliant at what he does and he definitely knows what pros want and how to implement it!
THANK YOUUUUU STEVE!!!!! If you deliver on this I promise you will see your Mac Pro sales soar shortly after release for the first time in a while!
The future of FCS has worried me for a while, this is the best news I have seen in a long time! I am sooo excited for this, new QuickTime X architecture, Open GL & CL optimization, 64 bit, new Cocoa UI, modern camera support such as DSLRs and AVCHD, Shake baked into Motion. YES YES YES! I am beyond giddy lol!
We have been very loyal and patient and we deserve this update! Now please keep the Mac Pro going for us as well! LightPeak please
It would be awesome if Steve were back to announce this... I can see it now haha... "So we asked our selves, what would happen if Shake and Motion HOOKED UP!?" Lol
Magic, that's what!2011 is looking like a GREAT year for product announcements! Next up, MacBook Pros, iMac, iPad 2, MobileMe, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, iPhone 5, Apple TV 3, iWork 11, Awesome!
"Apple reportedly reorganized the team under the lead of Randy Ubillos, the developer behind the completely redesigned iMovie in 2008."
K Schizoid you need to CHILL! Randy Ubillos is very brilliant at what he does and he definitely knows what pros want and how to implement it!
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Great News
I am an indie film director & writer and I love Apple products
I've used Final Cut Pro since college and very much prefer it to Avid - however, Hollywood today still SWEARS by Avid, and that's mainly because Avid does a much better job of media management
When you're trying to edit a feature film on FCP, the system just can't keep up as well as Avid can --- FCP starts to lag, whereas Avid doesn't --- however, Apple's introduction of FCP brought the price of AVID down by THOUSANDS of dollars, which was a GREAT boon for everyone in media and design
In addition, anyone who mentions "Adobe Premiere" in the same sentence as FCP and Avid needs to STOP!!! Premiere is NOWHERE near those two
FCP is superior to Avid because it is far more intuitive and plays well with other applications, like SoundTrack, Color and Motion --- but again, Avid outpaces because of media management
With all of that said, I have complete faith in Apple that this redesign is going to be EXCELLENT! We're talking the company that produced PIXAR, the most graphics-heavy movie company in the world --- if FCP cannot handle a Pixar editing project, I wouldn't imagine that Apple would even release this software
I have faith - this should be a great update and THANK GOD --- it's time for FCP to step up to the big leagues and bury Avid!
AND A NOTE OF HISTORY HERE ---
Updating iWeb??? Really?
Folks - I don't think we're giving FCP its 'proper' appreciation - let's not forget that Apple's introduction of FCP helped SOLIDIFY the company as a MEDIA software company - before FCP, an editing system with Avid cost around $20,000 --- Apple's introduction of FCP and OS X made for a good editing package that could only cost $3,500, well below the $20,000 that Avid could get away, so easily before --- this ONE change propelled a new era of independent filmmaking, where artists could more easily produce their films without having to spend thousands just on editing - for that reason alone, I'm always greatful to Apple
And lastly, FCP was the first major editing software to be used on laptops, which also changed the editing game (and please do not say "well, my mom used Premiere on a windoze laptop" --- Premiere was not a REAL editing system - couple that with the 5 gig limit that Windoze would impose on editing systems, and you're only choice was Apple)
SHAME ON ANYONE WHO DOES NOT CELEBRATE THIS MOMENT --- Final Cut Pro is one of the biggest reasons why Apple is succeeding today - it's update is important to the continued vitality of Apple (not iWeb 5!) - love and peace everyone!
I am an indie film director & writer and I love Apple products
I've used Final Cut Pro since college and very much prefer it to Avid - however, Hollywood today still SWEARS by Avid, and that's mainly because Avid does a much better job of media management
When you're trying to edit a feature film on FCP, the system just can't keep up as well as Avid can --- FCP starts to lag, whereas Avid doesn't --- however, Apple's introduction of FCP brought the price of AVID down by THOUSANDS of dollars, which was a GREAT boon for everyone in media and design
In addition, anyone who mentions "Adobe Premiere" in the same sentence as FCP and Avid needs to STOP!!! Premiere is NOWHERE near those two
FCP is superior to Avid because it is far more intuitive and plays well with other applications, like SoundTrack, Color and Motion --- but again, Avid outpaces because of media management
With all of that said, I have complete faith in Apple that this redesign is going to be EXCELLENT! We're talking the company that produced PIXAR, the most graphics-heavy movie company in the world --- if FCP cannot handle a Pixar editing project, I wouldn't imagine that Apple would even release this software
I have faith - this should be a great update and THANK GOD --- it's time for FCP to step up to the big leagues and bury Avid!
AND A NOTE OF HISTORY HERE ---
Updating iWeb??? Really?
Folks - I don't think we're giving FCP its 'proper' appreciation - let's not forget that Apple's introduction of FCP helped SOLIDIFY the company as a MEDIA software company - before FCP, an editing system with Avid cost around $20,000 --- Apple's introduction of FCP and OS X made for a good editing package that could only cost $3,500, well below the $20,000 that Avid could get away, so easily before --- this ONE change propelled a new era of independent filmmaking, where artists could more easily produce their films without having to spend thousands just on editing - for that reason alone, I'm always greatful to Apple
And lastly, FCP was the first major editing software to be used on laptops, which also changed the editing game (and please do not say "well, my mom used Premiere on a windoze laptop" --- Premiere was not a REAL editing system - couple that with the 5 gig limit that Windoze would impose on editing systems, and you're only choice was Apple)
SHAME ON ANYONE WHO DOES NOT CELEBRATE THIS MOMENT --- Final Cut Pro is one of the biggest reasons why Apple is succeeding today - it's update is important to the continued vitality of Apple (not iWeb 5!) - love and peace everyone!
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lol Great post.
And glad to hear FCP will be getting some love, hopefully it'll turn out great!
